Spider Clutch

I hatched out my first morph clutch this year, and I am pretty excited! LOL Pairing was a normal female X spider male. 7 good eggs, and all have now hatched. Wound up with 0.3 normals and 2.2 spiders.

(Please ignore the Ns and Ss on the eggs--I was candling them a week before hatching, trying to see what was in them. On four eggs I was able to make out something, and made my guesses--I was right on all four of them, though! ;))
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...stHeadOut2.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...rinThisOne.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...rsHatching.jpg

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...rsHatching.jpg

SBPB 10-1, Female:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...SpiderGirl.jpg

SPBP 10-2, Female (and a possible holdback):
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...YetTopDown.jpg

SPBP 10-3, Male:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...SpiderMale.jpg

SPBP 10-4, Male:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...s/SPBP10-4.jpg

NLBP 10-5, Female:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...NormalGirl.jpg

NLBP 10-6, Female:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...rmalFemale.jpg

NLBP 10-7, Female:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...-7SideView.jpg
This last little girl threw me for a loop . . . she looks nothing like her normal mother, or her spider "father". She looks like a spitting image of my het albino male. I suppose it's possible that my female could have retained sperm, but if so, she retained it for two years, as I gave her last year off! :O For selling purposes, she'll be labeled a normal, but I almost wonder if there's a chance she's carrying an albino gene. LOL

Mom:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...ClosetoOvy.jpg

Dad:
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...TongueShot.jpg

Possible Dad? . . . you can decide for yourself. LOL
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d.../GreatShot.jpg

Group shot (female spiders top row, normal girls middle row, male spiders bottom row):
http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d.../Clutch10A.jpg

Nice clutch! Love the spiders!!! I don't think she would hold the sperm for two years! He is probaly just a nice normal. You may try to prove him out if you have a female albino or het!

I doubt I'll try holding her back and proving her out, since space is an issue for me, so she'll be up for sale in a bit, but I'll label her a normal. Would be cool though if whoever buys her breeds her and she does prove out later. LOL

They look great, Pam! :D

Thanks Sandy!

Nice clutch prety spiders

VERY nice clutch and Odds!!!

Thats the pair I have together right now, along with a pastel....They all look great!!

The last normal does look nice....One thing I've noticed is normals from spider x normal breedings look very nice pattern wise..idk, might just be me..lol.

Congrats!!!

Thanks much guys!

Yeah, I really do like the pattern on that last normal girl. The other two normals look pretty typical, but that last one has some unique things going on in her pattern, and since I've bred my het albino male a couple of times, I've seen many of his offspring come out looking similar to that, and that's what made me wonder. I've heard of females retaining sperm, but never for two years! LOL Would be cool if my spider male was indeed the father though--would be awesome if he produced cool-looking normals like that. Time will tell, I suppose . . . hopefully I am going to get to breed my male spider to a virgin female ghost this season, and maybe even a virgin lesser if she gains sufficient weight (and the lesser only if I dont have my butter or if said butter doesn't get big enough), and it would be cool to see a normal het ghost with a cool pattern like that! :D

congrats on the odds, also nice looking babies and pics.

Hi beautiful ball babies. im new to the ball game and just wanted to ask a few questions. i have a 6 week spider male can i put him with another ball baby and what would u recommend what kind of female should i get..

Congrats :gj:

congrats nice odds.... and some verry nice spiders

Nice clutch! Very interesting about the last "normal" female :rolleyes: She sure does look like the het albino male. You'll have to promise to let us know if she ever proves out.:D

Love those babies! I see what you mean, now about the last little normal. She DOES look almost just like Alchemy! Crazy!

(Alchemy is Elmo's daddy ;) )

Pretty snakes and cool story :clap:

Thanks much everyone! The comments are greatly appreciated! I so love having these little ones around! Unfortunately, I won't get to prove out the lst normal female . . . space is too much of an issue for me. However, if whoever winds up buying her keeps in touch, perhaps they'll keep me updated. ;)

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Originally Posted by RichieBoo

Hi beautiful ball babies. im new to the ball game and just wanted to ask a few questions. i have a 6 week spider male can i put him with another ball baby and what would u recommend what kind of female should i get..

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Personally, I wouldn't house him with another snake. Ball pythons tend to be solitary creatures and actually don't prefer the company of other snakes. Even if you want to get a female for him, house them separately, and once they get large enough to breed, place them together in cycles. Even so, make sure you've mastered keeping first--breeding is a bit more advanced, and you'll have much better luck at producing healthy babies if you already understand their basic needs. :)

As for what type of female to get, there are many options. You could try for bumblebees if you pair him with a pastel and want a chance to see a visual double-morph on your first pairing. Lessers or butters are also a nice choice to pair with spiders, IMHO. Butter- and lesserbees are very nice animals! And again, you get a chance at seeing some double-morph animals on your first pairing. If you're willing to invest a bit more time into your project, you could try pairing him up with a recessive trait female, such as a ghost or an albino, in which case you'll have to hold back the male babies and either breed them back to their mom to see a double-morph animal, or another female of the same morph that they are "het" for. In the end, though, try what works best for you and your budget. The project will be a lot more fun for you if you are producing animals that you like. Research some of the double-morph animals involving spiders, and see which one you like the best. Because you're the one who will be looking at and caring for the animals you decide to buy, and it will be a while if you buy them as babies until they reach sufficient weight to breed.

Best of luck!

Nice clutch.. Thanks 4 sharing

Thanks much! Some of the babies are already going into their first sheds . . . first meals very soon! ;)