I have mold INSIDE my egg?!?!?!!?!?

Hi,

Since I am going to be leaving early tomorrow to go visit family I decided to cut my egg early ( day 54 instead of 55 ).

This is the clutch that I let get too wet and lost all but one egg so far to mold so I was really quite nervous about what could possibly be inside. :please:

I started off planning to be cutting just a small flap to make sure anything inside had a way out but saw something wierd and ended up sunroofing the poor thing trying to work out what it was. :oops:

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6464/remainingegg1.jpg

http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/6593/remainingegg2.jpg

It's mold!! :tears:

The veins underneath it are empty of blood and look like white string so I guess it has grown up the inside of the egg from the patch at the bottom of the egg?

I tried to clear as much of it out as I could but I definately can't get it all.

The snake itself is still alive at this point as it moved when I prodded it ( sophisticated test or what ? :P ) and, although it doesn't seem to show on the pics I think it is a lesser. It may colour up into a normal or something later though. :rolleyes:

I put a bowl of water in the eggbox and put the mesh lid on to prevent escape if it has left the egg by the time I get back.


dr del

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:hug:

I'm so sorry!

I hope it gets better!

~ Mac

:(

Well I guess that's a lesson for all of us, a tough one too. I'm sorry about the clutch and good luck with that little guy.

what was the pairing it looks really pretty.

He should be OK, he is almost there.

Hi,

Well it was kind of a who's yer daddy and I never saw the lesser actually lock. :rolleyes:

I was hoping to get more of a reduced pattern from her offspring but I'll take what I can get. :D

Here's her ovulation pic;

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6...me2010ovy1.jpg

She is also the female who just produced the biggest urate I have ever seen. :O


dr del

Wow!

Glossy :)

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Well it was kind of a who's yer daddy and I never saw the lesser actually lock. :rolleyes:

I was hoping to get more of a reduced pattern from her offspring but I'll take what I can get. :D

Here's her ovulation pic;

http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6...me2010ovy1.jpg

She is also the female who just produced the biggest urate I have ever seen. :O


dr del

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Del she looks stunning :D fingers crossed on the hatchling the mold is a complete oddity !

I saw the urate and its ONE BIG ONE ! ! !

Try flushing it out with some water. I usually keep a bottle of water in the incubator so it's the right temp. If that doesn't work very gently try taking a toothpick and removing the gunk.

Wooow ; never seen a problem like this. Maybe you can clear the mold?

-Daniel

Derek,
Is the mold inside of the entire egg? What does the outside of the sheel opposite of the mold look like (if it is a localized mold problem)? I have many times had mold on the inside of an egg that is right under a funny looking spot on the egg. It has never harmed the hatchling in my case. At day 54, I would think that snake will be just fine.

That's the first time I have heard/seen of this happening...this is a very strange event as the "good" eggs are supposed to have their own "protection" from this kind of thing. I wonder how mold could get a foothold inside??

Was the egg damaged in anyway?

Regardless, thanks for sharing!:)

I think this one is fine.
Crappy to have lost some in the first clutch though.

Sorry about the others Derek and I wish you the best of luck with this one :please:

I also have never heard/seen this. I hope everything turns out good Derek !!

Del, you've gone one perfect little miracle...

Hi,

I just got back from the family visit and it is, sadly, not a happy update. :(

Saying that the egg had problems would be an understatement (it's number 1 in this pic );

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/225/treatedeggs2.jpg

But all the visible mold or problems on the external shell were on the bottom with no sign of the internal mold showing on the top left of it here;

http://img686.imageshack.us/img686/7351/deadegg2.jpg

So, externally, it was at the front bottom of the egg I was seeing and treating mold but when I chainsawed my way in the mold was at the top back. :weirdface :confused:

When I checked today it was sadly obvious it had passed in the egg - and then when I removed it that didn't seem like the worst of the possible outcomes. :tears:

http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/5259/dammit1.jpg

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/5937/dammit2.jpg

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/9724/dammit3c.jpg

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/5340/dammit4.jpg

The pattern on the belly and the spot on top of the egg have me puzzled though. :oops:

I had thought it was a lesser but now I really do not know what it was - could the strange pattern be development related or egg stress? :confused:

I'm trying to decide if I should repeat the pairing next year or not.


dr del

Derek,
First of all, sorry for your loss. I would say from the coloration on the snake that it probably died somewher around day 50 or slightly before, as the black is very plae. It is possible that it lost a bit of color after it died, and actually died around day 55 or so. The lack of some color makes it hard to discerne if it was a Lesser or Normal. I would say that the pattern is probably a result of the egg stress, and not genetically inhereted from a parent. With that siad, unless you have something really interesting to pair with the dame next year, I would repeat the breeding to make absolutely sure there is nothing going on.

I hope that helped,

Sorry to hear such sad news Derek. :(

I told you on facebook but I will say it again here, sorry for your loss Derek :(

I don't know you Derek, but I have been watching this saga with keen interest.

As a soon to be first time breeder, I have to know what can go wrong as well as right.

I had such high hopes for you, that you'd get at least one baby from this bad situation, and I am very sorry you didn't.

Like you however, I feel since the baby was malformed, perhaps that was for the best.

I understand your reluctance to repeat the breeding, for fear this might be genetic, but truthfully since these poor eggs went through so much, perhaps it was only stress related, and future offspring would not have that problem.

My deepest condolences on your loss, it must not only be heartbreaking but frustrating. I wish you only the best in your future breeding endeavors.

Gale

Awww...I was hoping for a miracle....especially since I thought the baby was alive earlier...:tears:

I'm sorry Del.

Oh wow. I'm so sorry that little one didn't make it. :(

Sorry for your loss!! I was pulling for the little guy.