First time breeder, what to get?

Hi,
This is my first post. I love this site and have learned a lot. A little about me. I've breed boas and crested geckos. Now I would like to try breeding some balls. I've done a lot of research into what I like. I really like pieds and spiders. I have the opportunity to buy a pair of het pieds, or a spider-pastel pair. They are both $350 (right in my price range!) Which one should I go with? If you recommend the spider-pastel pair which one would you get as male and female? Thanks for any and all advice.

Well, I am personally more of a piebald fan. Also piebalds will hold their value longer, as where bumble bees are coming down fairly fast. However, in the end, it is all about what you like more.

I like neither that much, lol, and pieds have almost dropped to the price of a bumblebee.
You should get what makes you smile when you look at it.

There are alot of pairs that you could get in that price range and lots of potentially nice morph combos, but again you want to be breeding animals you like to look at and that make animals that you will be thrilled with.

Black pastel male X pastel female = pewter
het red axanthic X pastel = pastel het red
yellow belly X pastel = pastel yb
fire male X pastel = firefly

and on and on

Pieds are more valueable but I love spiders and bees! If you want to make more money go with pieds but I would choose whatever you like best then you will enjoy breeding and raising these snakes! Don't forget, they are your pet as well!

Its gonna be what u personally like best.. with a spider and pastel pair you will make a little off each animal more chances to produce morphs... pair of hets you will only end up with 25% chance of pied everything else only 66% hets..... I would start with a male spider and couple of female pastels, and use that to make money towards a pied pair if a het female and pied male......

oops, double post:rolleye2:

thanks for the replies I appreciate it.

I would go with anything recessive

I would go with anything I like. Just buy the couple of snakes you like the most. I you prefer piebalds over bumblebees, go for a couple of hets.

If you are buying a spider and a pastel, it doesn't really matter which one is the female. When you're about to buy a really high end morph, a male would be the smartest choice in my opinion.

Whatever you do, have fun breeding!

Sorry don't want to hijack your post :) But is a Black Pastel a Primary ball python. Ie. No morphs can be combined to create it?

Once again sorry :D

Hi,

Yes black pastel is a "base morph" :gj:


dr del

Do you plan to breed to become a millionaire, or are you breeding for fun?
If you're breeding to become rich, $350 ain't gonna get you there.
If you're breeding for fun, buy what you like.

i would go with the pastel/spider. Reason being.. the het pieds will give you small chance on a pied.. If you get another snake well.. its not going to be great odds.

On the other hand - get a pastel/spider - down the road pick up a yellowbelly to go with the pastel. Take one of your babies and make super pastels. Your combo chances are higher with just one or two more snakes.

I'm not looking to get rich or anything just enough money to fund my snake addiction :)

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I'm not looking to get rich or anything just enough money to fund my snake addiction :)

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Good luck with that :P

I'd go with the spider and pastel as well, because for me personally, I love the look of both snakes. So if they produce a bumblebee, awesome, but if not you're still going to get spiders and pastels which are gorgeous snakes in their own right.

THERE IS SO MUCH OUT THERE! Black pastel and pastel, pinstripe and pastel, Lessers, mojos and normals. All kinds of was to go. Depends on what you like.