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To cold?

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  • 07-08-2010, 03:00 PM
    hunter94
    To cold?
    Alright, well ever since I got my A/C going Leons cage has been pretty cold. Here are the temps.

    The Cold Side is 75.6
    The Warm Side is 86.4
    The UTH is 92.9
    And the Humidity is 60%

    Are these okay? I know the Humidity is perfect but are the temps?
  • 07-08-2010, 03:04 PM
    2kdime
    Re: To cold?
    Cold side needs bumped up 6 degrees or so

    Hot side needs bumped up 6 degrees as well

    75 degrees is PRETTY COLD

    You certainly run the risk of an RI
  • 07-08-2010, 03:09 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Cold side needs bumped up 6 degrees or so

    Hot side needs bumped up 6 degrees as well

    75 degrees is PRETTY COLD

    You certainly run the risk of an RI

    X2. If you need to, use a heat lamp to raise it. You can put it on a dimmer so it's not quite so moisture sucking. You could also put another heat pad on the cool site with a dimmer to get it to 80. That should raise your hot side as well. Good luck!
  • 07-08-2010, 03:41 PM
    hunter94
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Cold side needs bumped up 6 degrees or so

    Hot side needs bumped up 6 degrees as well

    75 degrees is PRETTY COLD

    You certainly run the risk of an RI

    Alright, well I got the Cold Side to 80.2 the Warm Side to 90.4 and then the UTH is the same.
  • 07-08-2010, 03:58 PM
    2kdime
    Re: To cold?
    Thats certainly a LOT better!!

    If you can do some more tweaking, 82/92 would be ideal

    At least thats what I shot for when I kept Balls

    But those temps should do you just fine




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hunter94 View Post
    Alright, well I got the Cold Side to 80.2 the Warm Side to 90.4 and then the UTH is the same.

  • 07-08-2010, 04:21 PM
    hunter94
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Thats certainly a LOT better!!

    If you can do some more tweaking, 82/92 would be ideal

    At least thats what I shot for when I kept Balls

    But those temps should do you just fine

    Alright, got the Hot Side to 92 and the Cool Side to 82. =)
  • 07-08-2010, 04:22 PM
    2kdime
    Re: To cold?
    Then your right as rain:D




    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hunter94 View Post
    Alright, got the Hot Side to 92 and the Cool Side to 82. =)

  • 07-08-2010, 04:42 PM
    hunter94
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 2kdime View Post
    Then your right as rain:D

    Lol, good. Ty for helping. =)
  • 07-08-2010, 04:51 PM
    Pip
    Re: To cold?
    Hope it's alright if I ask a question on the bottom of this.

    My bp is in a 20L with a lamp on one side. I have two thermometers, one on each side.

    I know, most people here will say I should use a UTH. Right now, I can't afford it, and normally get really great temps out of my setup. The last couple of weeks, the hot side has been 90-93 and cool side 80-82. Just recently, it has started raining and cooling off more in the afternoons and night, so the tank is getting a bit cool. The cool side is hitting almost as low as 75 degrees. I tried covering the screen to hold some heat in but it didn't really seem to work.
    Short of converting to a uth and thermometer setup, what can I do to help warm it up a bit more? Maybe cover a larger area of the top? Or a lower wattage lamp on the cool side with a rheostat?
  • 07-08-2010, 04:57 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: To cold?
    If you can maintain 78-80 and 88-90 your fine.

    Those are the temps i give and their fine. Having a mid 80s for cool side is just too high IMO. And 75 will NOT cause a RI if they have a warm spot of 88-90 to get to and stay warm.
  • 07-08-2010, 05:00 PM
    hunter94
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    If you can maintain 78-80 and 88-90 your fine.

    Those are the temps i give and their fine. Having a mid 80s for cool side is just too high IMO. And 75 will NOT cause a RI if they have a warm spot of 88-90 to get to and stay warm.

    Alright. Ty. =)
  • 07-08-2010, 05:05 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: To cold?
    I never have my warm end over 90, thats too high for the warm end ambient temp IMO

    75 is a bit cool but won't hurt a thing as mentioned, as long as the warm end is in the upper 80's and you have a hot spot your just fine.
  • 07-08-2010, 05:10 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pip View Post
    Hope it's alright if I ask a question on the bottom of this.

    My bp is in a 20L with a lamp on one side. I have two thermometers, one on each side.

    I know, most people here will say I should use a UTH. Right now, I can't afford it, and normally get really great temps out of my setup. The last couple of weeks, the hot side has been 90-93 and cool side 80-82. Just recently, it has started raining and cooling off more in the afternoons and night, so the tank is getting a bit cool. The cool side is hitting almost as low as 75 degrees. I tried covering the screen to hold some heat in but it didn't really seem to work.
    Short of converting to a uth and thermometer setup, what can I do to help warm it up a bit more? Maybe cover a larger area of the top? Or a lower wattage lamp on the cool side with a rheostat?

    Ball pythons lay on the hot spot(belly heat) to help digest their meals.
    A rheostat is worthless unless your room temp is fairly stable 24/7
    ihome sells reptitemp 500R thermostats for 28 bucks shipped and The bean farm sells 11x12 flexwatt heat pads for 3.60 each.

    For $10 more than a rheostat and a heat bulb you will have a thermostat and a UTH for your snake to enjoy :gj:
  • 07-08-2010, 05:15 PM
    Pip
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    Ball pythons lay on the hot spot(belly heat) to help digest their meals.
    A rheostat is worthless unless your room temp is fairly stable 24/7
    ihome sells reptitemp 500R thermostats for 28 bucks shipped and The bean farm sells 11x12 flexwatt heat pads for 3.60 each.

    For $10 more than a rheostat and a heat bulb you will have a thermostat and a UTH for your snake to enjoy :gj:

    See, I don't like the 500R because it's not proportional... Which seems like it sort of defeats the purpose. Is an analog alright?

    The flexwatt seems nice though. Is that the most recommended around here? I like the price too :)

    Edit: I just read this on the flexwatt page:
    "It is recommended that a rheostat, dimmer (use a dimmer intended for incandescent lights) or a proportional thermostat be used with this product. "

    I take that to mean an on/off therm isn't an option?
  • 07-08-2010, 05:18 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pip View Post
    See, I don't like the 500R because it's not proportional... Which seems like it sort of defeats the purpose. Is an analog alright?

    The flexwatt seems nice though. Is that the most recommended around here? I like the price too :)

    Flexwatt is awesome and cant go wrong with it.

    Proportional is not cheap. Ranco and Johnson t-stats are same mechanical as the 500r which is on/off. On/off is perfectly fine for racks. Incubators thats a whole different story.
  • 07-08-2010, 05:21 PM
    Pip
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    Flexwatt is awesome and cant go wrong with it.

    Proportional is not cheap. Ranco and Johnson t-stats are same mechanical as the 500r which is on/off. On/off is perfectly fine for racks. Incubators thats a whole different story.

    Yeah, they're pretty pricey. I have a tank, not a rack setup. And I'm just a pet owner, not a breeder so I don't have incubators either xD

    Just trying to give my little guy the best habitat he can have..... That I can afford ;)

    Above I added to my post with respect to info I found on Flexwatt that suggests you shouldn't (or can't?) use an on/ off therm with it. Am I misinterpreting?
  • 07-08-2010, 05:23 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pip View Post
    Yeah, they're pretty pricey. I have a tank, not a rack setup. And I'm just a pet owner, not a breeder so I don't have incubators either xD

    Just trying to give my little guy the best habitat he can have..... That I can afford ;)

    Above I added to my post with respect to info I found on Flexwatt that suggests you shouldn't (or can't?) use an on/ off therm with it. Am I misinterpreting?

    You can use on/off with flexwatt as long as you stay within the t-stats rated power. Most are 500-1500 watts max load which is more than any rack or tank could pump out.
  • 07-08-2010, 05:43 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: To cold?
    unless you have 108 bucks for a herpstat you wont get a proportional, and, you dont NEED a proportional t-stat.
    A rheostat is something I would never use, if your room temp goes up 7 degrees, so does your heat pad.

    I have 3 reptitemps in use for over 2 years, no problems.
    I also have a johnson controls a419 that is ok, but the herpstat is a joy, I have one on my incubator.
  • 07-09-2010, 01:59 PM
    Pip
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    unless you have 108 bucks for a herpstat you wont get a proportional, and, you dont NEED a proportional t-stat.
    A rheostat is something I would never use, if your room temp goes up 7 degrees, so does your heat pad.

    I have 3 reptitemps in use for over 2 years, no problems.
    I also have a johnson controls a419 that is ok, but the herpstat is a joy, I have one on my incubator.

    Sweet :) Thanks so muchfor your responses guys.

    So I think I'll go with flexwatt + 500R until I can afford a proportional therm.
    Things are a tad too variable, and I want to be able to dial my temps in for my little buddy. :)
  • 07-09-2010, 02:04 PM
    55Ballin
    Re: To cold?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pip View Post
    So I think I'll go with flexwatt + 500R until I can afford a proportional therm.
    Things are a tad too variable, and I want to be able to dial my temps in for my little buddy. :)

    Just got my 500R the day before yesterday. It took some tinkering to get the temps to level out but it has maintained a solid 91.5 degrees for 2 days now with no more than a 1 degree difference up or down. It really is a decent piece for the price.
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