Woma and Spider Ball Python

I am interested in breeding in the future, and I was looking at what I wanted to breed, what I didn't want to breed, and what I want to come up with. So far, I have a lot of low-end morphs that I love the look of, and seem really cool :)

Anyways, I did (but have not crossed it off of my list) have a Spider ball python.

This is a Spider:

http://www.petacularexotics.com/NewF...ider-05_M1.gif

This is a Woma:

http://newenglandreptile.com/images/...oma/woma11.jpg

It may just be that I am not that experienced in ball python morphs, or that I am stupid, but I don't see a difference. Does anyone else see a difference? Does the Woma not have a wobble? If they don't I would love to work with them in the future, too! I am just confused, though.

Any help would be amazing!

Thanks,
~ Mac

Is the genetic make up different?

I felt the same when I first got into ball pythons. Spiders and womas are very different though, as far as I know wobbles is only associated with spiders and their combos, so woma should be wobble free. Also spiders have white sides very similar to a calico and their pattern markings tend to thinner and more spider web like then the woma, which is more of an extremely reduced pattern IMO. Another noticable trait of the spider is that they have very defined head markings.

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Originally Posted by Sadistic Serpent

Is the genetic make up different?

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If you held both you'd see the difference more clearly.
As far as I know woma's have no wobble issue.
Not the best pics, but I did these to see for myself the difference.
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/PICT7981.jpg
http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d1...s/PICT7983.jpg

Hi,

From my (extremely limited) understanding;

Spiders have a different, more gold colouration.

Spiders have a more extreme variation from the normal pattern.

Spiders have white up their sides.

And the combinations look a lot different when you compare the spider and the woma variants.


dr del

and in breeding, there is then al lot of difference, which combos are possible to produce ;)

You can't really judge them by how brown or gold they are. High end animals of both morphs can be very gold. Spiders tend to be more yellowy-gold, and womas tend to be more orangey-gold. On the low end, they are both brown, lol.

Spiders have white splashing up the sides, and womas do not.

Here is a very nice woma:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...041510-1sm.jpg

And here is a decent spider:
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r...n/Anansi13.png

Womas do not have the wobble issue.

here is my woma when she was younger
http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/s...1/IMG_1526.jpg

Nice!

It seems like Womas are lighter :)

I think I'll work with both, or the Womas.

~ Mac

Womas are darker than most spiders :confused:

Look up at my second photo, the golden one is the spider, the darker one is a woma, both males.

Oh! I thought the lighter one was the Woma! Okay, I get it now, thanks :)

~ Mac

No prob, the spiders have white sides, the womas don't.
Their patterns are quite similar.

The very best spider is probably lighter than the very best woma. The coloring on a woma is more even than the coloring on a spider.

The worst of both are just brown, so there is everything in between, and there are womas that are a lot lighter than most spiders.

it's really the white on the sides with the calico-like border that really distinguishes them for certain. It can be seen even on low-white spiders.