What Is A Better Choice?

Hi everyone i have a dilemma i was going to get an 09 clown but then some one said they will give me and 1500 gram female mojave for about 500 bucks but for me it does not matter how much they cost. so lets just say if they both cost the same which one would be a better investment i really like the clown but i with the mojave i know i can make many thing with her so please help me out cause i can only get one of them.
p.s the pic is the clown ill get the pic of the mojave later

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...cec4208812.jpg

I would def go recessive and get the clown

Get the clown, I want the mojave :D

Hi,

I would think about what I want to breed in the future, and base my decision on this!
But if it doesn't matter what they cost, take both ;)
And in this case, although the mojave seems to be a good investment, I would take the clown, its just an awesome looking guy.

It's not every day 1500 gram mojo females are let go and especially at that price, and although that is a particularly hot male clown, they are released with some regularity.
I'd pick up the female.

Depends on what you like- I don't like clowns, but if you like them get them. I also think that I'd rather get a visual recessive female first, that way when she is a year or two old you can pick up a visual or het male. Either way to produce more clowns you are gonna need at least het. clown females.

Imo adult morph females (especially recessive morphs) are worth their weight in gold, they put you much closer to producing lots of morph combos :D

i dont know the first thing about breeding but i'll add my 2 cents here. theres alot you can do with females. theres also alot you can do with a mojave. but ultimately it is your decision. do what you feel is best for your breeding puposes.

I think the mojave is the better choice if you think about breeding her. Unless you have something to go with the clown like even a simple pastel you could go that way, but even with a normal and mojave you can get both in the clutch with out needing another het clown ect ect.

I -love- clowns though and I myself would buy the clown before the other morph. Especially that nice looking one being offered there! It's really your call, but if you're talking breeding I'd have to say female mojave!

I have a 1300 gram female mojave in my collection. If someone were to offer me that clown straight up for her, I wouldn't do it...

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Originally Posted by MarkieJ

I have a 1300 gram female mojave in my collection. If someone were to offer me that clown straight up for her, I wouldn't do it...

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Yeah, matter of a person's own personal preference for sure. :) I am rather rusty and didn't plan to get a mojave myself, but could you tell me what all you could breed out using a mojave? Mainly just the cooler high up morphs plz

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Originally Posted by Coils

Yeah, matter of a person's own personal preference for sure. :) I am rather rusty and didn't plan to get a mojave myself, but could you tell me what all you could breed out using a mojave? Mainly just the cooler high up morphs plz

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If Orlandoflor were to get the mojo girl, with the money he saved from not getting the clown, he can get any number of codom males.

Pinstripe to make Jigsaws
Mojo male to make lavender-headed Blue-eyed Leusistics (bels)
Lesser to make clean bels
The Black Pastel Mojave is an eye melter...
Sulfur to make:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2708/...a2de6f1c4f.jpg

Now if he/she wants a snake that will make them want to open up the tub every hour, then go with the clown...

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Originally Posted by MarkieJ

If Orlandoflor were to get the mojo girl, with the money he saved from not getting the clown, he can get any number of codom males.

Pinstripe to make Jigsaws
Mojo male to make lavender-headed Blue-eyed Leusistics (bels)
Lesser to make clean bels
The Black Pastel Mojave is an eye melter...
Sulfur to make:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2708/...a2de6f1c4f.jpg

Now if he/she wants a snake that will make them want to open up the tub every hour, then go with the clown...

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Wow, I haven't looked up ball python morphs for some time. I have been busy with my leos and just trying to get what I already own up to weight as the years pass. Any pics of a sulfur? Was that a something......fire morph? also I haven't seen a jigsaw! I am really out of the loop!

That's a hard one. The mojo could give you instant results, but the clown could make some awesome combos. You just have to wait longer to see them if you breed them all your self. It's a tough choice. Good luck!

thanks everyone for helping me out im still trying to figure it out and i have to by monday. so here is the picture of the female mojave they gave me

http://i829.photobucket.com/albums/z...ndoflor/tn.jpg

Actually....

Females are great, and ones that are larger are even greater, because you get closer to breeding. But I'm not a fan of Mojaves.

Clowns are recessive, meaning not everyone is working with them because a lot of people dont like working with hets and possible hets. However recessive often means they will hold their cost a bit longer, meaning you may have room to sell them in the future and not be facing paying 2000 dollars for a snake and then selling them for 300.

But again a male clown doesnt help you make clowns, you cant line breed him to his children 1 or 2 years down the road, you have to wait for the female to get up to size. So if you get him see if you can find a female het at the same time, if not go with the Mojave.

im still trying to decide on what to get . i like the clowns but i have to get a het clown girl or wait till nest season and with the majove girl i can breed this season and with the money i save from not buying the clown i can get a nother morph but the clown is killer im my mind i hate when i have to make a tough decision so please keep voting i got till monday and that when all your help is going to help me decide what to get so keep it up

Think of it this way: You can breed sooner and risk losing the chance to own a snake that you might not have the spare cash for in the future, or you can get the amazing snake and wait to get a female then wait 2/3 years to get her up to size... then claw your eyes out as you watch the price of the clown drop like crazy in that time making you feel like you wasted the money.

Eggs now.... Eggs later.

And since your Clown is male it would take another 2/3 years before you could line breed him to the offspring if the female werent at least het for clown.

Eggs now... clowns in 4-6 years....

Hrm.... Eggs now.... Clowns later.... Eggs now, trade for Clown next year.... Eggs later, sit around kicking yourself...

can't go wrong with a morph female at breeding size. get a male mystic to go with that and you're in business

i have decided what to get now. i dont know thing might change . but currently with the money that the clown was going to cost i decided to get the 1500 gram female mojave and a 500 gram female spider. hopefully i get them Tuesday or Wednesday. and bring them home to my 800 gram female pastel and later on i plan to get a male lesser to pair him up with all my girls. but there might be a slight chance something happens and i cant the girls ill have the get the clown male i just hope that does not happen. thanks for all the help every one :gj:

Do you really want to produce a white snake? Because while I am a big fan of lessers and how attractive they are and a fan of the white snakes, but considering it's a mojave I'd suggest getting a different male to make some cooler crosses. For example a Cinnamon, or a fire, both go well with all the morphs you have.

i really like white snakes and the lesser bee is really nice to but i was thinking of getting a fire or something else to breed with my pastel

Check out the Fire Mojave http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...d.php?t=120277

wow that fire mojave is nice i would not mind getting one of those

I would go with the breedable female morph.

It's a tough one but if someone handed me these two and told me to pick one I would definitely go with the Mojave..

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Originally Posted by Sarin

It's a tough one but if someone handed me these two and told me to pick one I would definitely go with the Mojave..

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I would run... With the snakes, obviously.

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Originally Posted by Orlandoflor

wow that fire mojave is nice i would not mind getting one of those

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Thats part of why I suggest the fire over the lesser. White morphs are fun, but Mojaves can be used for so much more. Personally I'm a big fan of selecting snakes that havent been created yet then trying to produce those. Not only is there profit there, there is a lot more fun and discovery involved.

ok now i have a problem the guy who i was going to buy the females from stopped making contact with me have not gotten any more emails from him and i sended him 2 yesterday it always take like to hours for him to reply but i have gotten none plus his add is also gone and i know he did not sell them all cause he had alot of snakes. so guess i have to go with the clown. ill be leaving for LA tomorrow and ill post pics of the snakes i got on friday or saterday wish me luck.:)

You tried contacting on a major holiday, maybe they were out of town?

yeah i sended him two yesterday and the day before and y is his ad gone?

I would wait a day or two! He may be busy and not check his email. You don't want to rush and lose out on a female mojave and spider! I would take those two over a male clown!!!

clown al the way