housing in 2 gal aquarium

is it true that if u wanna keep your bp small is to put it in a small enclosure? or is that article i read is just plain stupid?


i dont wanna keep my bp small im just curious

Fake. Untrue. Don't believe it.
You cant keep a burmese or a retic in a 20g its whole life and expect it to be the same size as a ball.

Yea, 100% untrue.

Im pretty sure that only applies for fish

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Originally Posted by DShaw

Im pretty sure that only applies for fish

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actually, doesn't apply to any animal, especially fish. It stunts their growth, causes an insane amount of stress on their organs and often results in early death of the animal. :/

If you can't provide an adequate enclosure for a fully grown specimen of a given species, get something that stays smaller.


That said, OP, ball pythons generally do better in smaller enclosures than snakes of equivalent size.

Well,

If you wanted your kid to stay small, would putting him in a trunk work ? :colbert:

You can't make any animal stay small by keeping it in a small habitat. The best case scenario is the animal gets too big and forces the owner to get a larger habitat or re-home the animal. Worst case, the animal ends up sick or stunted and dies much too soon.

This persistent myth does a great deal of harm in both the fish and bird world, and it's a pity too many people out there believe this garbage. Not only that, media perpetuates it. How many TV shows and commercials have you seen that show a large 4-6 inch goldfish in a 1 gallon fishbowl? And how many fools out there kill these beautiful creatures because they believe you can do that?

I'm glad the OP has sense enough to question what he/she read, but a lot of people don't.

Gale

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Well,

If you wanted your kid to stay small, would putting him in a trunk work......

Gale

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yeah, actually its crazier why some people would actually even write articles that mislead other people! :mad: at the very least i'm glad this forum is here to correct the wrongs. thanks gale!

When you think about this your first reaction should be a mental image of bonsai kitten.

http://www.ding.net/bonsaikitten/gray.html

Would you do that to a kitten? Then dont do it to any other animal.

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When you think about this your first reaction should be a mental image of bonsai kitten.

http://www.ding.net/bonsaikitten/gray.html

Would you do that to a kitten? Then dont do it to any other animal.

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At only a few weeks of age, a kitten's bones have not yet hardened and become osseous. They are extremely soft and springy. In fact, if you take a week-old kitten and throw it to the floor, it will actually bounce! We do not recommend that you try this at home. The kitten may bounce under the furniture and be difficult to retrieve, as well as covered in unsightly household dust.

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I can't say that I hate a lot of people, but I hate those people. God forbid your week old kitten bounce under the furniture or get dust on it when you're throwing it around! I don't even have a word for it.

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I can't say that I hate a lot of people, but I hate those people. God forbid your week old kitten bounce under the furniture or get dust on it when you're throwing it around! I don't even have a word for it.

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It was a hoax pulled off by MIT students. People, hopefully, dont seriously do this.

Yeah, there are no bonsai kittens.

People do believe the fish in small tanks will stay small thing. Mainly because at some point the filters don't keep up with the fish, and they stop growing because the fish is unhealthy. Then the fish ends up dying. But hey.. it didn't outgrow the tank! Stupid people hurt my brain.

People will believe what is convienant to them. So they'll buy the fishbowl and goldfish, because they don't WANT to have to mess with a 50 gallon aquarium with filters and such. It's so much easier to think "Oh.. just a bowl" and not bother to find out what the fish actually needs.

Actually, the issue is low oxygen availability, which causes stunted growth and eventual death. Even the best filter won't solve that.

You need a certain amount of surface area to oxygenate the water. Bigger fish need more surface area.

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You need a certain amount of surface area to oxygenate the water. Bigger fish need more surface area.

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Do you mean surface area or volume? Filters are supposed to oxygenate the water, and so are those bubblers and how much oxygen the fish gets depends on the volume and oxygen content of the water. With adequate filters/bubblers then the water will have the right percentage of oxygen in it, without the need for a high surface area on the top (the only direction that is exposed to air). However low volume means the fish wont really be able to do ram ventilation and buccal pumping will deplete the oxygen content of the water faster.

its always interesting to read responses from gurus! :D thanks so much!