Bp!!!!

okay so BP(the gas company) is burning sea turtles alive! go joke at all! go look it up!

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Originally Posted by jacob985

okay so BP(the gas company) is burning sea turtles alive! go joke at all! go look it up!

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can post where you got this from..

i was just watching it on the news


here is an artical. http://www.redorbit.com/news/science...urce=r_science

I will never pump gas or buy a single product from BP for the rest of my life.

i know thats messed up!

I see this quickly moved to qt room but here is the thing, gather the oil and have controlled "burn feild" OR let more oil reach the coastline and ruin that for many years killing more turutles and wildlife.... your call....

they are suposed to have nets around the burn fields to perven wildlife from reaching the burning oil.

The only report from a reputable news source is one article from Fox News. I would think that if this was proven, this would be on every news webpage and making the local and national news on TV. all of which hasn't happened. I'm not saying it isn't happening, but I think it may have been one captain doing it once or something to that effect. I cannot believe that with everything BP has to deal with, they would want this added to their worries.

This is the only thing I was able to find and it is somewhat convoluted.

Jim Smith


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On Tuesday MyFoxTampaBay.com reported that a boat captain working to rescue sea turtles in the Gulf of Mexico saw BP ships burning the loveable marine critters alive.

As the website noted in an article entitled “Is BP burning sea turtles alive?“:

Captain Mike Ellis said in an interview posted on You Tube that the boats are conducting controlled burns to get rid of the oil. “They drag a boom between two shrimp boats and whatever gets caught between the two boats, they circle it up and catch it on fire. Once the turtles are in there, they can’t get out,” Ellis said.

Which apart from being tragic news in its own right, makes for an unfortunate turn of phrase for BP insiders.

It is well known that within BP corporate circles that those holding the highly sought- after executive assistant job — seen as a grooming ground for future executive board members — are commonly referred to as “turtles”.

Something to do with the way they protect and gate-keep the executives they are attached to, apparently.

Anyway, it just so happens that a younger Tony Hayward, now BP’s chief executive, was also once affectionately known as just that — a turtle.

As the New York Times commented in October 2007 (via Factiva):

Hayward’s performance was noticed by John Browne, the then-BP chief executive who resigned earlier this year after revelations about his personal life that had prompted him to lie to a high court.

Hayward was dubbed a ”turtle,” BP’s title for any promising talent whom it planned to groom for top leadership.

As a turtle, Hayward followed Browne around, witnessing an expansion strategy that has been blamed for some of BP’s current problems.

”There’s nothing wrong with the business as such but things had gone a bit lax under the old Browne reign and the management needs tightening up and focusing,” said Alan Beaney, a fund manager with Principal Investment Management, based in Britain. ”It’s Hayward’s job to see if he can change that around.”

The question is: will he be barbecued by the board the same way his fellow turtles are being barbecued in the Gulf of Mexico?

We wait and watch.

Related links:
Portrait of an oil company in distress – FT Alphaville
Adventures in falling knives – FT Alphaville

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They have no business not permitting people to rescue the turtles...though I have to say, I question how well those turtles would have done anyhow, given that they are already in the middle of a gigantic oil slick.

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Originally Posted by j_h_smith

The only report from a reputable news source is one article from Fox News.

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:weirdface ????

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:weirdface ????

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Okay, something of an oxymoron.:rolleye2:

Jim Smith

YouTube - BP 'burning sea turtles alive' Here's a video link I came across.

Came in from G.I. 48J today. I saw two different very healthy looking turtles while on the platform for the past 3 days. Plenty of other wildlife also.

The Gulf of Mexico is huge! The oil coming from the BP blow out well has reached the Grande Isle area. The National Guard, local volunteers, etc. are constantly cleaning up the area. I hope they stop the flow from the well soon, but the wildlife will bounce back. IMO

Just watched the video. I think the BP people should have been helping the turtle people save the turtles. Sounds like most of them were an endangered species.

Frustrating topic. I don't even want to imagine what crazy things BP is not letting go public.

This isn't the first time that there have reports that BP has blocked ppl from rescuing or helping. Sad that they are making those decisions. :colbert:

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I will never pump gas or buy a single product from BP for the rest of my life.

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I have to say that that's ridiculous. They made a mistake. BP made an oopsie. So now you will never buy from them again? Seriously? BP gas stations are basically mom and pop stores that had nothing to do with the oil spill, so you are actually hurting them. In fact, the less money you spend on BP, the less money they'll have to help with oil spill efforts. Boycotting BP is the most ridiculous thing I have heard of in my life.

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I have to say that that's ridiculous. They made a mistake. BP made an oopsie. So now you will never buy from them again? Seriously? BP gas stations are basically mom and pop stores that had nothing to do with the oil spill, so you are actually hurting them. In fact, the less money you spend on BP, the less money they'll have to help with oil spill efforts. Boycotting BP is the most ridiculous thing I have heard of in my life.

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Baloney, this isn't the first 'oopsie' they've ever made, they kind of have a history of putting profits before people. I personally will never buy another drop of gasoline from them either.

I too will never step foot in a BP gas station nor buy any gas from them EVER.

If they sell gas/oil to another company, I'll boycott them too.

It's the fact that BP has completely destoryed the wild life for years to come. They try to catch the oil to stil make a profit instead of stoping the oil to protect the wildlife and the lively hood of my friends and family. I have 12 friends who's familys are out of a job because they can't fish to make a living. They care nothing about the people I have grown up with. They have caused dammage that will take decades to even start to recover from!

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YouTube - BP 'burning sea turtles alive'

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I don't know, maybe this is the original captain's interview. But if it is, I tend to think even less of this story than before. I still haven't seen anything reported on this supject. With all of the anti-BP talk going on these days, if this story was real, I would think it would be the top story on every news station and newspaper in the world.

Jim Smith

thats just it the rest of the world doesnt care about one small gulf. it has been all over the news around my area. it is big news here my friend.

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It's the fact that BP has completely destoryed the wild life for years to come. They try to catch the oil to stil make a profit instead of stoping the oil to protect the wildlife and the lively hood of my friends and family. I have 12 friends who's familys are out of a job because they can't fish to make a living. They care nothing about the people I have grown up with. They have caused dammage that will take decades to even start to recover from!

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I think you can put as much blame on President Obama as you can BP. Why hasn't he ordered them to stop the recovery and start with a full force containment program? Why is he talking about stopping all other off shore drilling, but allow BP to work things out (meaning to recover as much oil as possible, while the oil is reaching way too many beaches in Florida and who know how far this will go?)

BP is at the root of this problem but there's a lot of blame to go around.
Jim Smith

its not Obamas company although yes it is his fault as well

Here's the thing, to those who would condemn BP:

BP is a big oil company, no doubt. They are not the biggest. Or the second biggest. Or the 15th biggest.

There are 18 oil producing companies larger than BP. Eighteen. Is everyone really so ignorant that they think BP is the only company causing economic catastrophe for financial gain? Pull your heads out of the tar sands for petes sake. BP may be a major disastor, but look at places like Nigeria. The Nigerian government estimates there were 5 oil spills PER WEEK between the late 1970s and 2001. These were small spills, of course, but if you think that doesn't add up to WAY more than what has been spilt in the BP disaster, you should think twice. Besides, that sort of continued damage is far worse than a one-off event. And there are similar stories all over the world.

No, if you want to make a stand against an oil company destroying the environment, you need to live in a hut somewhere using only solar energy (although, fossil fuels were no doubt used to produce the power used to make your solar panels... And your hut...) and not own a car. You can't condemn BP for their actions and then drive up the street to Shell. Ask Ecuador how much good Shell is doing for the environment there.

First off...kinda confusing title (Bp) on a ball python website...just saying.

Anyway...You gotta look at it from both sides. Either you delay getting the oil spill cleaned up by hours if not days to let people go in the nets and search for sea turtles (stupid enough to come to the surface when it's on fire...) and let the oil spread, or you can get the spill cleaned up faster.

Sorry to say guys, but I work for an oil and natural gas company (no, not BP) and the only way they really have a chance of stopping the oil spill is to drill the two relief well adjacent to the leak. That ( sadly) takes time and won't happen till at least August. For now, they just have to do what they can. Yeah, there are nets set up to try and prevent animals from getting into the "burn zones", and nothings perfect. It's sad, but is it really worth the delays (and extra oil leaking) to slow down BP any more? More oil will wash up on beachs, soak birds, get into the bayous and so on....

I say, it's sad, but is the best they can do between a rock and a hard place.

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I really love the fact that the boat captain in the interview that's sooo worried about protecting sea life (aka sea turtles), has AT LEAST 2 mounted swordfish on the walls behind him. Why worry about turtles and not fish?

that was a restaurant which im sure he doesn't own

I love how folks want to blame Obama for not 'taking over' the efforts in the Gulf.

The idea that the government could do a better job than BP is frankly ridiculous, unless you are harboring the illusion that Obama himself is going to be down there shoveling tar balls--and even then, that isn't going to make much of a difference, either.

BP has the equipment, and the US government DOES NOT. The government can do LESS than BP....not more. Leaving this in BP's hands isn't just the smartest choice, it's the only choice.

Obama did not create this problem--the US public has been clamoring for more domestic oil production. Look in the mirror, it's your fault, my fault, the fault of every citizen of the country. BP mislead officials as to how well they could deal with a disaster, and what the risks were. No one was able to call them on it because this simply hasn't HAPPENED before. There is no precedent. Deep water drilling like this is pretty new.

Now we have US judges seeking to overturn Obama's ban on deepwater drilling. Is any thought given to whether the other companies doing it have enough safeguards in place to prevent a similar accident? Nope.

This accident is the fault of the people working on that platform, installing shoddy parts, and not paying enough attention. Those people were working for BP. If higher officials in the company knew about it, then it is 100% BP's fault that the accident happened.

It's everyone's fault that it was ABLE to happen.

The loss of sea turtles that were already in the middle of a heavy oil slick is the least of our worries right now. But someone does need to be down there playing watchdog to prevent even minor abuses from occurring. Hint--the government is traditionally not good at that sort of thing.

Honestly, I think burning the oil is stupid anyway. There are plenty of ways to collect the oil and sparate it from the water for use. Then we wouldn't have to worry about all the sea turtles getting hurt...

"After our government claimed that we did not need or could not obtain larger ships to skim the Gulf oil spill, a giant-capacity skimming ship has arrived in U.S. waters. Yet our government has us wondering whether it will permit the ship to join the cleanup effort.

The problem is not simply the Jones Act; it’s also that our Environmental Protection Agency may squelch the ability to use this giant ship.

The S. S. A-Whale is not like the mere 4,000-barrel-a-day vessels we’ve been using. Its owners say this ship, a converted oil tanker, can gather 500,000 barrels a day. By comparison, say the owners, the entire fleet our government has authorized for BP has only gathered 600,000 barrels—TOTAL—in the 70 days since the Deepwater Horizon explosion. (NOTE: 500,000 barrels equals 21-million gallons.)

The A-Whale is the essence of an international ship—built in South Korea , modified in Portugal , owned by Taiwanese and flagged in Liberia . And that is part of the problem. Even if it stays farther offshore than the 3-mile limit of America ’s Jones Act, it still requires approval by the U.S. Coast Guard and Environmental Protection Agency before BP can hire the A-Whale and put it to work.

The second problem is that the ship would gather spilled oil, separate the water from the oil, and discharge the water back into the ocean so its tanks could be filled with oil. Our EPA has a problem with that, because the discharge would retain a minor amount of oily residue. To EPA, any residue greater than 15 parts per million is impermissible. They elevate perfection above the need for speed."
http://dailycaller.com/2010/06/29/giant-clean-up-ship-met-with-puny-response-from-bureaucrats/

Often the imperfections and problems in a complex system do not become apparent until something dramatic and disastrous (like this) happens.

Unfortunately, the bureaucratic engine is slow to react, and laws and regulations may not be changed in time to help resolve this problem.