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Over priced BPs?

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  • 06-21-2010, 02:46 PM
    Flatheadhunter33
    Over priced BPs?
    The local pet store here wants $60 for baby BPs and they also have a larger 14 yr old that they want $99.99 for...I saw on line that I can get babies for $19.99 and adults for around $40-$50 at another place over in California but I still have to pay shipping (I still think that it would be cheaper than the store here)...

    Whats the average price where you live? I kind of think that my local store is over pricing?
  • 06-21-2010, 02:49 PM
    NicolasWSOP
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    I think that all pet stores have overpriced ball pythons. The local pet stores in my area sell them for $70 to $80!

    Buying from a breeder is usually best.
  • 06-21-2010, 02:50 PM
    krinklebearcat
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    That's pretty consistent with what you'll find anywhere. It's always cheaper to buy directly from a breeder online than from a store (if you don't count shipping..). I've seen normal babies in stores for $125 :rolleyes:
  • 06-21-2010, 02:52 PM
    CeLLLLL
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    local petco's are like $60 for a baby ball python

    local reptile stores are like $50 for a baby and $80 for an adult

    local pet stores that only have 1 or 2 snakes sell adult ball pythons for $80-$150

    (all of these are normals and the stores I'm looking at are in the Long Island, NY area)
  • 06-21-2010, 02:53 PM
    Flatheadhunter33
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    How much would i be looking at if purchasing from a breeder? Im talking just the normal pattern. I was thinking that a breeder would charge more?
  • 06-21-2010, 02:57 PM
    ALTownsend1
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Tampa Repticon had ten baby BP's for $100...
  • 06-21-2010, 02:58 PM
    stratus_020202
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Check on kingsnake and see if there are any shows in your area. You can usually pick up a little normal for 20-25 at a show, and no shipping! Good luck!
  • 06-21-2010, 02:58 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Well, they are overpricing because they have to. Think about it. Someone who keeps, feeds, and breeds their own snakes can sell a baby for $40 and technically still make a profit. But pet stores do not breed for their own animals. They have to buy them from someone else. That person sells a normal ball python for $20, the petstore has to make a profit. If they want that $40 profit, they have to sell it at a minimum of $60. Then there is the cost of feeding and housing it during the time it is there. Working in a pet store I can tell you that sometimes a snake will stay with us for a month or more. That is at least 4 feedings and the cost of the heat and bedding. So that is usually why they have to up the price a lot when you get them from a pet store.

    Just my :twocents:
  • 06-21-2010, 02:58 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    I think that is a great price for a quality CBB Ball Python..there are advantages to slightly higher priced "pet" snakes

    1: cuts down on the number of Impulse buy's
    2: Higher prices means the retailer can afford better quality stock
    3: People that Pay more for things tend to take better care of them

    Higher isn't always a bad thing.. I think 60.00+ for a good well established baby ball python is a perfect price after all they will live for many Decades so why price them live gold fish..
  • 06-21-2010, 02:59 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Breeders are going to charge anywhere from $20 for a normal male to $40 for a normal female baby. If it's a particularly pretty baby, they might charge more.

    The prices that you see in the stores is the market price from a retail store - and consistently priced amongst most pet stores.

    Keep in mind though - you'd need to find a local breeder, otherwise, you'll pay close to $50 for the shipping alone.
  • 06-21-2010, 03:36 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Most pet stores are going to have to get their animals from some one, and then care for them.... I am in the process of opening a store here, and I will produce most of my own ( alot of the reptiles in store will be produced my my family or other local breeders.)... Keep cost down but I am not afraid to refuse a sale to someone who will not care for it.
    You also should realize that you will pay 30-50 bucks for shipping
  • 06-21-2010, 04:20 PM
    Flatheadhunter33
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    That person sells a normal ball python for $20, the petstore has to make a profit. If they want that $40 profit, they have to sell it at a minimum of $60. Then there is the cost of feeding and housing it during the time it is there. Working in a pet store I can tell you that sometimes a snake will stay with us for a month or more. That is at least 4 feedings and the cost of the heat and bedding. So that is usually why they have to up the price a lot when you get them from a pet store.

    Just my :twocents:

    Thanks. I understand what you are saying. I dont want anyone to get the idea that Im trying to come down on the store. Thats why I am asking for prices in other areas. I know that the stores need to make a profit in order to stay in business but I am trying to figure out why a place like LLL Reptile can afford to have their stock priced at $19.99 all the time (last week they had them on sale for $10.00) and other stores charge much more? I think that I am starting to get the picture though. ;)
  • 06-21-2010, 05:17 PM
    stevepoppers
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Pet stores are ridiculous. I got ripped off on my first one because I went with a recommendation from a friend (right before I came here to learn anything) and I paid $140 for normal girl. They told me she hadn't been in the store for a day. Someone came in and sold her to them for some reason or another. I regret the impulse decision and price, but she is the sweetest thing. Not the slightest bit afraid of people. High contrast; the dark is almost black with a little blushing, the light almost green with heavy white border and a little yellow creeping up the side. She looks phenomenal next to my het pied. 600g at the time. She eats live mice like a champ (working of f/t rats). No apparent health problems. I say we got lucky with her health, etc. and the pet store got a ridiculous profit for keeping her in a tank for a few hours.

    It's a love/hate thing with that decision I guess. If I had known there were cheaper, I'd have never gone and paid so much. But I really like the girl, so she just might be worth it...
  • 06-21-2010, 07:52 PM
    amnesia
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    I paid $80 for ours. And that was 40% off. Canadian pet stores :(
  • 06-21-2010, 08:15 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    With SYR no longer doing snake shipments, unless you're a huge breeder with a special deal, expect to be paying more like $70 to $75 in shipping charges now.
    Fed Ex isn't cheap. :P
  • 06-22-2010, 04:09 AM
    Jeremy78
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Lmao, you guys think it's bad? Try being a Canadian. Here's some "average" prices for yeah in Canada...

    Hatchlings:
    normal female - 75-100
    normal male - 25-50
    pastel male - 125-200
    pastel female - 250-300
    spider male - 250-300
    spider female - 300-350
    mojave male - 300-350
    mojave female - 350-425

    Breeding size:
    normal female - 250-300
    normal male - 50-100
    pastel male - 175-225
    pastel female - 500-1000

    That's just a taste.
  • 06-22-2010, 04:18 AM
    stevepoppers
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    $1000 pastels? My goodness, what is going on up there in my hat? :D
  • 06-22-2010, 05:03 AM
    JenEric Reptiles
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jeremy78 View Post
    Lmao, you guys think it's bad? Try being a Canadian. Here's some "average" prices for yeah in Canada...



    Hatchlings:
    normal female - 75-100
    normal male - 25-50
    pastel male - 125-200
    pastel female - 250-300
    spider male - 250-300
    spider female - 300-350
    mojave male - 300-350
    mojave female - 350-425

    Breeding size:
    normal female - 250-300
    normal male - 50-100
    pastel male - 175-225
    pastel female - 500-1000

    That's just a taste.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevepoppers View Post
    $1000 pastels? My goodness, what is going on up there in my hat? :D

    Thats for a breeder size pastel..........
    A breeder size pastel that a proven breeder and hold color well with big clutches is worth that even here.....normals breeder females go for 80-200 depending on same variables
  • 06-22-2010, 06:16 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by stevepoppers View Post
    $1000 pastels? My goodness, what is going on up there in my hat? :D

    Ha! You couldn't even approach me to sell my adult female pastel for LESS than $1000. $1000 for a breedable female pastel is not a bad price.
  • 06-22-2010, 08:15 AM
    Bundu Boy
    Re: Over priced BPs?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jeremy78 View Post
    Lmao, you guys think it's bad? Try being a Canadian. Here's some "average" prices for yeah in Canada...

    Hatchlings:
    normal female - 75-100
    normal male - 25-50
    pastel male - 125-200
    pastel female - 250-300
    spider male - 250-300
    spider female - 300-350
    mojave male - 300-350
    mojave female - 350-425

    Breeding size:
    normal female - 250-300
    normal male - 50-100
    pastel male - 175-225
    pastel female - 500-1000

    That's just a taste.

    LMAO:taz::taz::taz: Check this out, cross the pond and head south to South Africa

    Hatchlings:
    normal female - 200
    normal male - 200
    pastel male - 475
    pastel female - 550
    spider male - 650
    spider female - 650
    mojave male - 650
    mojave female - 925
    Piebald male/female - 2000
    Albino male/female - 1200

    We recently had a shipment of ranched ball pythons arrive here in South Africa. The importer of these was selling these to the petshops between $33.00 & $45.00. A lot of these petshops are then selling on at between $170 to $200.

    I don't know what the importer paid for these ranched hatchlings and the shipping.

    Funny thing is that you can actually buy locally bred normals at between $105 to $160 which is less than what the petshops sell ranched babies for.

    Down here the petshops make a killing with these animals, granted they have overheads etc to cover, but still IMO they overprice these animals....
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