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  • 06-11-2010, 11:24 PM
    spygirl
    New crestie!
    There's been this little male crestie at the PetCo I dog train at for a long time. No one wants him because he's "ugly". So what was I supposed to do? Tell him no, he couldn't go home with me! Besides.... I had an empty tank and some plants and some bowls.... :P So here is my new little buddy, Don Juan. Named because he just charmed the pants off me! :rolleyes:

    I'm horrible with crestie morphs. Does his coloring have a certain name? I'm thinking about getting him a lady or two. Any suggestions about what I should get?

    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4034/...fecfae9f35.jpg


    http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1265/...311b315915.jpg
  • 06-11-2010, 11:26 PM
    Boanerges
    Re: New crestie!
    I think he is a good looking boy!!! Congrats on your new addition :gj:
  • 06-11-2010, 11:42 PM
    mlededee
    Re: New crestie!
    Aww, he's cute--not ugly at all! :aww: He is a flame morph--looks brown in the pics but maybe he fires up darker or maybe a reddish color?
  • 06-11-2010, 11:54 PM
    spygirl
    Re: New crestie!
    Yeah, I think he's pretty cool myself. :D

    Yes, when he fires up, he turns a very pretty dark red. Hopefully I can snag a better pic of him when I can steal the good camera from the hubby!

    Thanks guys!
  • 06-12-2010, 12:31 AM
    Michelle.C
    Very cute and very healthy looking! Give me? :D
  • 06-21-2010, 12:23 AM
    spygirl
    Re: New crestie!
    Ack, I need help!

    So I get home from work and I find his mouth full of coco fiber! I immediately clean everything out and check with a pen light to see if anything else is stuck. It looks empty, but he's still very weak. He's now on paper towels in a kritter keeper with a small dish of Rapshy.

    He's temps (as of right now and this morning) are at 80 degrees with 60% humidity. He was trying to crawl all over me, but was obviously having issues.

    What else can I do for him? His belly doesn't feel hard like anythings impacted. Should I soak him?

    I'm tempted to see if there's a herp vet on duty tonight at the emergency clinic. My usual doc will be open at 8:00 AM. Do you think a vet can do anything really?

    Ah, I'm so worried about him!
  • 06-21-2010, 02:09 AM
    mlededee
    Re: New crestie!
    Lower his temperatures--80 is a little high and if he is stressed or ill temps that high could make it worse. You want to shoot for a high of about 78.

    Were you feeding insects? Could that be the reason his mouth is full of coco fiber? if not, sometimes when a gecko on loose substrate has seizures they get a mouthful.

    I wouldn't soak him unless he seems dehydrated. The less you handle him the better right now--you want to reduced stress as much as possible.

    Make the kritter keeper extra humid and provide a source of water for him to drink. Leave him in a dark and quite area to rest.

    It's probably not worth it to take him to an emergency vet at this point unless that vet specializes in reptiles. If he is not much improved by morning I would get him in to see a herp vet ASAP.
  • 06-21-2010, 11:35 AM
    spygirl
    Re: New crestie!
    Ok, update...

    He's doing much better. Emily, that's pretty much what I've done now. I moved him out of the herp room because it was getting so warm in there. He has no heating equipment on him because of this. He's now in the hubby's office which is holding steady at 77 degrees.

    Now as to why there was so much in his mouth, I haven't a clue. He's not a big insect eater at all. I fed him one cricket the day he came home with me and that's it. Everything else also appears normal. He has been eating and going to the bathroom.

    So for now he's staying on paper towels. I plan on weighing him later to check for weight loss, but only when I think it won't stress him too much. But otherwise he's looking really good. Sticking to the side of the kritter keeper and acting normal. There was a point when I thoughtnhe wasn't going to make it through the night. But now Im way more hopeful.
  • 06-22-2010, 12:01 AM
    mlededee
    Re: New crestie!
    I'm glad to hear he seems to be doing better. Do keep him on the paper towels for now and just keep a close eye on him. :)
  • 06-22-2010, 10:47 AM
    spygirl
    Re: New crestie!
    Things have gone downhill since last night...

    I checked on him this morning. His temps and humidity are where they should be. But he just hasn't improved. It looks like he can't even move his back legs at all. He still looks plump, not dehydrated, and his calcium sacs look good.

    I did call my vet and he told me if I really wanted to I could bring him in. But he told me all he could really do is run an x-ray and take a fecal. He said the tests may be so stressful that that in itself does him in. And at this point, I kinda agree.

    I just wish I knew what brought this on. Did he become overheated? A seizure? I know that most of his life at the PetCo (they had had him for 9 months!) he was housed with another male. The other male was sold about a month before he came home with me. He had been picked on according to the other employees. Maybe that has something to do with it. Who knows...

    So now I'm not sure what to do. Gah, I hate feeling helpless!
  • 06-22-2010, 06:23 PM
    Boanerges
    Re: New crestie!
    Oh no :( Sorry to hear he is not doing well :(
  • 06-22-2010, 06:43 PM
    spygirl
    Re: New crestie!
    Don Juan has passed...

    I'm debating if I want a necropsy done or not. I don't know if he just ingested too much bedding or became over-heated or what. But he never had the sunken-in-eyeballs look. He still looked well-fed and normal.

    But at least I could give him a home away from screaming kids tapping on the glass at the store.

    Thanks for all the help everybody and I appreciate it. He's rekindled my crestie love, so there may be some more for me in the future. RIP little buddy.
  • 06-22-2010, 08:02 PM
    Boanerges
    Re: New crestie!
    Sorry for your loss :(
  • 06-22-2010, 11:39 PM
    mlededee
    Re: New crestie!
    Aw, I am sorry to hear that he didn't make it. :(
  • 06-23-2010, 04:37 AM
    Jeremy78
    Re: New crestie!
    I had the same thing happen to my male dalmation. He took a dive fom the top of his aquarium for a cricket and filled his mouth with coco fiber.
    Here's what I did...
    I had a spare 10 gallon laying around I filled about an inch or two with water. Then I put him and splashed water all inside his mouth until most of it came out and he could finally close his mouth.
    During his bath time (keep your hand in with it so he won't freak out and try to climb the glass) I changed all substrate to paper towel. Then I went and got the extra virgin olive oil from the kitchen cupboard and put it drop by drop on his nose while he licked it off. I fed him about a 1/4 of a teaspoon of olive oil.

    That was 2 years ago. He's still alive and perfectly healthy.

    I'm really sorry He passed :-(. But it sounds like he was impacted. I am not a vet and I did this only because I was very worried.

    What is everyone elses opinions on what I did?
  • 06-23-2010, 05:11 AM
    RR - Mackenzie
    Re: New crestie!
    You did the ebst that you could. Hopefulyl this never happens to me :( I think I might just use paper towels.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jeremy78 View Post
    I had the same thing happen to my male dalmation. He took a dive fom the top of his aquarium for a cricket and filled his mouth with coco fiber.
    Here's what I did...
    I had a spare 10 gallon laying around I filled about an inch or two with water. Then I put him and splashed water all inside his mouth until most of it came out and he could finally close his mouth.
    During his bath time (keep your hand in with it so he won't freak out and try to climb the glass) I changed all substrate to paper towel. Then I went and got the extra virgin olive oil from the kitchen cupboard and put it drop by drop on his nose while he licked it off. I fed him about a 1/4 of a teaspoon of olive oil.

    That was 2 years ago. He's still alive and perfectly healthy.

    I'm really sorry He passed :-(. But it sounds like he was impacted. I am not a vet and I did this only because I was very worried.

    What is everyone elses opinions on what I did?

  • 06-23-2010, 01:10 PM
    mlededee
    Re: New crestie!
    I don't necessarily think he was impacted--there were no indications given that that was the case. One mouthful of coco fiber that was cleaned out of the mouth would not have impacted and killed the gecko in one day's time. An impacted gecko will not pass waste for at least several days time, will become bloated and have a hard belly. Coco fiber like Bed-A-Beast doesn't generally have large chunks of substrate either--a little of it ingested by an adult should not have a negative affect.

    I don't think it's necessary to treat for impaction after one mouthful of fine substrate that was immediately cleaned out. 1/4 teaspoon of olive oil seems like a lot for one gecko, but I guess it would sure clean things out. I'd just keep an eye on the gecko if it happened, and make sure it continued to pass waste as normal. If it ingested a large chunk of substrate, like a piece of bark or something, that would be much more concerning.
  • 06-27-2010, 09:24 PM
    tonyaltn
    Re: New crestie!
    Aww..I was thrilled to see the chunky little dude until I read this, thats so sad, he was a cutie. Sorry for your loss.
    I quit using coco bedding all together, I looked into the enclosure to see her flopping around like a fish out of water...only ALOT worse, it scared the crap out of me, but then I seen her mouth was full of the stuff, it happened again the next time I got Crickets so I dumped it out that night and changed to the reptile carpet, best thing I ever did. I will never use that stuff again.
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