Need help asap!

Please someone reply to this asap. I'm so worried about my snake I'm about to cry.
I JUST finished feeding her. When I put her in the box, both her eyes where fine. But I just took her out, and one looks very different. almost like it looks like a retained eye cap (which I know it's not). Could it just be because the humidity in my room was to low that it looks the way it dose? Because I have seen her eye dented just due to low humidity.
Here's a few photos.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/100_0059.jpg
Left eye

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/100_0057.jpg

It doesn't look like such a eye cap anymore, it has smoothed out a little since I put her back in the high humidity.
I do feed live, and the moment she grabbed it, it looked like she had the head in her mouth, but I didn't flip her over to double check because I didn't want to bother her. If any one has anything this on this, please tell me. I'm so worried!
Also, if anyone recommends that I bring her to the vet, I won't have the cash until next Thursday. Would there be anything I could do in the mean time to help out, or wait.

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Originally Posted by sorakitty

Please someone reply to this asap. I'm so worried about my snake I'm about to cry.
I JUST finished feeding her. When I put her in the box, both her eyes where fine. But I just took her out, and one looks very different. almost like it looks like a retained eye cap (which I know it's not). Could it just be because the humidity in my room was to low that it looks the way it dose? Because I have seen her eye dented just due to low humidity.
Here's a few photos.
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/100_0059.jpg
Left eye

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/100_0057.jpg

It doesn't look like such a eye cap anymore, it has smoothed out a little since I put her back in the high humidity.
I do feed live, and the moment she grabbed it, it looked like she had the head in her mouth, but I didn't flip her over to double check because I didn't want to bother her. If any one has anything this on this, please tell me. I'm so worried!
Also, if anyone recommends that I bring her to the vet, I won't have the cash until next Thursday. Would there be anything I could do in the mean time to help out, or wait.

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Its Vet time. Not a retained eye cap yet a infected eye from something it poked or got bit.

It REALLY looks to me like she got bit. I dont feel live personally, so am I 100% sure? No... But... Darn close.

Some pet stores sell reptile wound lotion, which might help. If it was me, I would CALL the vet and ask for advice. That's all I've got, hopefully someone else with experience with this kind of thing has something more concrete for you.

looks like a pretty gnarly rat bit to the eye.. keep a watch on it and you might GENTLY apply some antibotic ointment to it once a day..they can heal from amazing things and never miss a beat.. see here an eye injury I delt with a few years ago and she did just fine..
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/DSCF4503.jpg

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http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h...s/DSCF4505.jpg

Yeah. I know it's not a retained eye cap. I might be able to get some of that wound lotion. But I won't have any cash until next thursday. Will the lotion work for now until I get the money?
Please, any help on that would be great. And she will be switched to f/t now. I feel like such a horrible and irresponsible snake owner. =[

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Yeah. I know it's not a retained eye cap. I might be able to get some of that wound lotion. But I won't have any cash until next thursday. Will the lotion work for now until I get the money?
Please, any help on that would be great. And she will be switched to f/t now. I feel like such a horrible and irresponsible snake owner. =[

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Do not use the wound lotion. Im agaist all stuff mass produced and sold at pet stores for reptiles care.

You can get generic neosporin for under $4

Okay. Thanks. I have some bacitracin, will that work? I did set an appointment for her next thursday to see the vet to know exactly what he'll recommend. I just feel so horrible, it's beyond description.
Also, I left a message to have the vet call me back, and see what he might recommend for the mean time. I still feel like crap. Not gonna lie.
Will she go blind in that eye now?

I wouldn't use anything other than Triple antibiotic..its like 1.25 at walmart..bum a quater off the next 5 people you see and go get you some.. Keep its enclosure clean..really clean..and if it starts to look swollen or discolored get to a vet..

So will either neosporin or the Triple antibiotic work? And I know no added painkiller. Will it say right on the tube if it has it is it?
Sorry for all the questions, she's just the first snake I've owned, so I haven't run into anything like this yet.
And thanks for the help everyone.
Also, I'd really like to know if she'll be going blind in that eye? I know that they don't see well visible anyways, but I'm just curious.

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So will either neosporin or the Triple antibiotic work? And I know no added painkiller. Will it say right on the tube if it has it is it?
Sorry for all the questions, she's just the first snake I've owned, so I haven't run into anything like this yet.
And thanks for the help everyone.
Also, I'd really like to know if she'll be going blind in that eye? I know that they don't see well visible anyways, but I'm just curious.

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Yes it'll say on the tube w/Pain killer.. As far as going blind in the eye, she might..then again she might not. Keeping her clean, hydrated, and treating her with the antibiotic ointment is going to give her the best shot at keeping the eye right now..

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

I wouldn't use anything other than Triple antibiotic..its like 1.25 at walmart..bum a quater off the next 5 people you see and go get you some.. Keep its enclosure clean..really clean..and if it starts to look swollen or discolored get to a vet..

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Same here - Triple antibiotic is your best bet for now. Just make sure it doesn't have anesthetic! I believe Bacitracin has anesthetic so don't use that. Generic Neosporin is good and it's cheap - just go to Walmart or your local drug store and compare active ingredients. You should be able to get it for under $5 anywhere you go.

I would take her to the vet for follow up as soon as you're able to. Try not to worry too much - I think she'll be ok. If your vet is willing to advise you over the phone, call 'em. If they want to see the snake before recommending anything, well make the appointment for Thursday and hang in there til then. These guys are pretty darn resiliant... :gj:

Okay. Thank you so much, for the info.
I'll be picking up a tube tomorrow, on account I have work tomorrow, and I work at walmart. Do you think she'll be fine for the rest of today? and most of tomorrow (i'm not out until 9). If any one thinks I should treat it today, a family member of mine might have some neosporin or the triple antibiotic at their house. but if not, will she be okay?

I think she probably will be. You might gently wash the area with a soft cloth and warm water to make sure there's no "dirt" around the area and make sure her enclosure is REALLY clean. This will help prevent any infection from getting started over night.

On the other hand, if you just fed her, it might be better to leave her alone and just thoroughly spot clean her cage. Stress won't help her right now either. But that kind of depends on your snake. If she'll tolerate the gentle washing without stressing too much and its been at least several hours since she ate, I would wash. But those are just my thoughts...

Keep us posted!

I just cleaned her cage yesterday. I have a nice clean piece of eco-carpet in there. And so it's just out there, I soak the old, soiled one for 48 hours, if not longer in a nice bleach/water solution.
Thank you everyone for the information that was provided. It really means a lot to me. And I'll make sure I keep posted on this.
Yeah, she's not even in her hide, she's keeping her head on the top of her hide, while her body's inside it. She's normally inside her warm hide all the way by now.
I just called my family member to see if she has any kind of neosporin or something along those lines, so if I can't get to her today, then I can do it tomorrow before I go to work. But I'll try and treat her tonight at around 10ish.
Thank so much everyone on the info and advice! It really does mean a lot to me!

Just relax. She's not going to develop any infection today that Neosporin won't fix tomorrow. Somehow, she'll probably come out just fine. And even without an eye, she'll still be fine. They barely use them anyway. Yes, I do feel bad for her and I'll feel worse if she does lose the eye, but she can live just fine without it if it comes to that.

Don't beat yourself up for feeding live. You're one of thousands, probably more, who do. I do. Dr. Del does. It was an accident. They just happen and there's nothing you could have done about it because there's no way you could have known. What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way. Look forward, give her rest and quiet time, treat it when you can, and keep hope up. Good luck.

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Just relax. She's not going to develop any infection today that Neosporin won't fix tomorrow. Somehow, she'll probably come out just fine. And even without an eye, she'll still be fine. They barely use them anyway. Yes, I do feel bad for her and I'll feel worse if she does lose the eye, but she can live just fine without it if it comes to that.

Don't beat yourself up for feeding live. You're one of thousands, probably more, who do. I do. Dr. Del does. It was an accident. They just happen and there's nothing you could have done about it because there's no way you could have known. What happened happened and couldn't have happened any other way. Look forward, give her rest and quiet time, treat it when you can, and keep hope up. Good luck.

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I agree with this - don't beat yourself up about it. You're a good mom who actually found the injury right away. Good for you for being so observant! She'll be fine - no worries tonight, 'k? ;)

Okay. Thanks everyone. I know it was an accident. But I can't help but beat myself up over this. Im one of those people who beat themselves up over some of the smallest things. I see it as my fault at the same time because I did feed her the live. But now I know I'll feed her f/t now. And if she doesn't take it, then I'll buy live and stun them or something. I'll work things out when I cross that bridge.
And thanks. I check on her everyday, and try to keep a observent eye upon her. It also help that I've started a little log to now, so I know what could be out of the ordinary. I don't think I'm going to bother her tonight, seeing how she finally got her whole body inside her hide, but I'll put some on tomorrow before I leave for work.
Does any one have any tips on how I should put on the neosporin? I was thinking a nice sized dab on the end of a q-tip and smear it kinda like that. Would that work? Or is there any better way to do it?

Just smear it on like you would any other injury.

Feeding live isn't what happened. What happened was a completely random incident.

Thanks for the tip.
Update: I know it's only been a day, but I checked her out today and her eye looks a little better. I put on some neosporin and she took it well. She didn't try to pull away... so I don't know if that's a good sign or a bad one. But I put it on so gently, that she might not of felt the need to pull away. I also noticed her tummy is slightly pink. I don't know if it's due to the food digesting that does this (due to the fact I haven't handled her with in 24 hours after a big meal), because I noticed that it's only where the rat kinda is. I know it's not a burn, due to the uth doesn't reach above 94 (and there is a layer between it and her). Or if she'd going into shed (though on her last shed's she didn't really have a pink belly). If she's going into shed, great, but I'm also kinda p/oed about it because the vet won't be able to get a great look at her eye. So that's just the little 24 hour update. Next post will be if it turns out she's going into shed, after the vet visit, or if it happens to get worse (which I very much so prey it won't).

Thank you everyone again for all the advice and tips on how I can help her. I've calmed down so much compared to yesterday it's not funny. I have myself prepared for the worst, but I do hope everything turns out for the better. I'm keeping my hopes up for her.

From what I've read around here, shedding is a part of the healing process and she may have constant shed cycles until she heals completely. If the vet's good, I'd think it wouldn't be too much of a problem. (complete and total assumption)

I have a picky male pastel that was bitten on the eye last year. It looked worse than it was. I simply kept his enclosure very clean and applied Bacitracin once a day. Bacitracin does not have added pain killers unless you buy it that way. After his next shed the eye was good as new. The outer cap protects the inner cap in cases like these. If the inner cap is not punctured, the eye will always heal with proper treatment.

Okay thanks. I'm glad to know. I don't think it's as bad as it could of been, because I haven't seen any thing like puss or something along those lines (yet). But I want to assume something would of shown up with in 24 hours. I'll be treating the eye with neosporin.

@Steve: I've heard that to. So I'm glad she's going into shed if thats the case. But when I noticed the color of the belly, it was via artificial light, not natural light (due to it being night time where I am), and I've noticed that the lights I use to light my room will make something seem a totally different color then what it really is. So I'm going to just double check to belly tomorrow. But like I said, I don't know if it could be possible due to the food in her stomach(because her tummy is still quite full, and I can still kinda make out the shape of the rat). I haven't ever handled her within 24 hours due to the size of the food I offer. But I know when I hold her after 48 hours, I never see any pink. Sorry, my inexperience is showing. But I have full trust in my vet is she does shed. the first time I brought her in, she was in the middle of shedding, he put on some artificial tear stuff, and it make the eye caps almost see through! So he was able to check out her eyes that way. So I'll have to see what happens.

Does anyone have an anatomical diagram of a snake eye? I'd find it very interesting. Like, how deep from the brille is the iris, lens, etc.?

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he put on some artificial tear stuff, and it make the eye caps almost see through!

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Oh, that's cool.

Okay. So another little update. The girls been a little more active, and her eyes is looking better everyday.
So I just have a few more questions. I keep a log about everything that's been going on, should I print it off and take it with me to the vet? More so just I can remember what I have done, and can bring up a few other points to him. I don't think it would hurt to bring it, just as a precaution, and he could look it over if he wanted to also.
Now another thing, I've decided to try f/t on her now. What are a few ways to thaw out the rat? I've read the horror stories about some thawing's, and I'm honestly horrified about having the thing explode on me. Would the warm water trick be best, or slow thawing over time? I won't be able to get the food until thursday, which is her feeding day. Any tips on what others do to thaw out the prey for their snake will be taken to mind. Thanks.

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Okay. So another little update. The girls been a little more active, and her eyes is looking better everyday.
So I just have a few more questions. I keep a log about everything that's been going on, should I print it off and take it with me to the vet? More so just I can remember what I have done, and can bring up a few other points to him. I don't think it would hurt to bring it, just as a precaution, and he could look it over if he wanted to also.
Now another thing, I've decided to try f/t on her now. What are a few ways to thaw out the rat? I've read the horror stories about some thawing's, and I'm honestly horrified about having the thing explode on me. Would the warm water trick be best, or slow thawing over time? I won't be able to get the food until thursday, which is her feeding day. Any tips on what others do to thaw out the prey for their snake will be taken to mind. Thanks.

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Thawing is as easy as leaving it out on the counter for the day. Then warm it well with a hair dryer to give it a heat signature. When switching from live you may need to get the rat wet. This releases more scent and snakes will take it more readily. Use feeding tongs and make it move slightly. We call it the zombie dance. It may take a few tries but if you wait a couple weeks to feed again you will have more luck with her taking it.

As for the vet. Yes let them know what you have been doing but do not let the vet pick at the eye. Many vets will want to start picking. There is no need to mess with it if it is healing. Picking will cause more harm than good. Just continue the antibiotic ointment treatment. Raise the humidity when her other eye goes cloudy and keep it up until she sheds. That damaged cap should come right off. The only reason the vet should really do anything is if he suspects the inner cap is damaged and an infection is present. This is unlikely if it is improving like you say. Even so, nothing more than a round of antibiotics would be needed in that case. I dont think the vet will need to do anything honestly. Keep doing what you are doing and the eye will be good as new in no time.

Okay thanks for the tip. I'll make sure he doesn't pick at it.
Now I have the appt. at 3:45 on her feeding day. Should I just not bother feeding her that day, or do you think it would be okay to attempt to feed her at like midnight? I'm not going to bother feeding her before due to obvious reason's. lol. If I don't get to feed her this week, I'm not concerned about her losing weight. She's bulked up nice d^-^b Plus I know her missing one feeding isn't a big deal, and I know it'll help her get extra hungry for next feeding, and might be more willing to take the f/t.
Now for the blow dryer thing, I don't have a blow dryer. If I was to dangle the rats head over a hot light would that work? Sorry, I love my snake, but I have no budget to buy a blow dryer right now. I've been planing for a big trip. And I'll get one after I get back from it. So I'm just looking for a short term thing to warm the head up. I would borrow my mom's blow dryer, but I know she wouldn't be to keen on that. I mean heck, she want's nothing to do with a towel I use just to keep the humidity up in my snakes cage. hehe. I don't mean to sound like I'd neglect her(that is the last thing on my mind). I'm just looking for a wicked short term thing, seeing how I'm going to be leaving in just a few weeks (I have my dad to keep up on her humidity, and I'm gonna try to feed her before I leave. I'm only gonna be gone for a weekend).

I've used a heat lamp to warm up the rodent after i thawed it in hot water. Worked fine for me. Good luck at the vet

A heat lamp will work. Any hot light bulb will if you hold the rats head close to it and rotate it a couple times until its good and warm. You can also put it in a container of very hot water from the faucet for about 10-15 minutes or until the water is not as hot.

I wouldnt feed her if she has a vet visit to go to. Just wait until the next feeding day. Many of us have snakes that go off feed for months with little to no weight loss. If she is a healthy weight an extra week will not phase her.

look not too bad almost like one wit hone bp I had the littel fool had either rubb against someting or something to do wit hit shedign at the time. and done something similar . not had bad as those second picks just acorner type tear that peeled the lens are aa back some. I placed the snake in a tub( clen smaller one)with paper towels and a smaller water bowel ( since th large one took almost half the tub).I applied new neo every night wiping the old off first wit ha wet rag ) after a coupld shed I could not even tell.

Here is a dumb question --if you are really concerned and want to get the snake to the vet before next Thursday. Does your vet require payment the same day of treatment? Or would he/she be willing to work with you on the payment, or even let you post date a check? Just some thoughts, if you really don't want to wait to get the snake in.

Also, on a side note -- obviously do what you want, but I would ditch the repti-carpet (I have never heard anything positive about it). Just use some newspaper, or you can do what I do (if you want something that is still cheap but looks a bit nicer) and pick up a box of packing paper at Home Depot for about $10 -- I am still on a box that I bought a year ago.

Good luck!!

I haven't asked about the payments, but it's a big vet place in a small town. So I would assume they want payment day of, but I can ask them when I bring her in this thursday. I didn't even think of asking about that. lol. Thanks for bringing that up.

I did use newspaper back when she had mites, and I struggled so hard to keep up the humidity in her cage back then. At least with the repti-carpet I'm not struggling as hard. Should I switch to aspen or something? Cuz I hear that's easy to clean. I was trying to get my hands on the same stuff as the place I her from, but they never have any when I get there. ^^ Any other suggestions on what I could switch her to, beside newspaper and paper towels. I did the reptile bark, and that's how she got mites, so I will never use that again. How does everyone feel about the aspen? Will it help keep up the humidity? She's in a 20 gal glass tank with 3/4 of it covered.

I have already decided I want more snakes, they are so contagious like everyone says. lol I'm not gonna get any more like tomorrow, but in the future. And I will be switching to a rack system when that happens. Does anyone have any good sites to go to buy racks, or where I could to start looking at blue prints to build my own rack. As of right now, I'm only looking for a rack that will hold 5 tubs for adults. I've already decided upon flexwatt for the system, and that cheap thermostat on amazon. This is something that won't be happening until I move out of my parents house, I'm 19 and have actively been looking for a place of my own. I know I'm gonna have a hard time finding a place on account of the snake, but I won't give up. So anyways, sorry, I didn't mean to get off track. If anyone has any tips on what to tell future landlords, and any tips on a rack system will be greatly appreciated.

I wouldn't even mention that I had a snake if I was looking for an apartment, but that is just me. Sometimes it is better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.

Plus, you could get creative and hide the snakes if you had to. I'm not sure what the law is for other states, but in MN a landlord has to give 24 hour notice before entering their rental property.

As far as a rack, there are a lot of DIY's on here, or if you want to buy one (might be a little more expensive) Reptile Basics and Boaphile are both great places to start. I have a six tub 32 qt rack from Boaphile -- his customer service sucks, and he takes a long time, but the rack is great!

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I wouldn't even mention that I had a snake if I was looking for an apartment, but that is just me. Sometimes it is better to ask for forgiveness than ask for permission.

Plus, you could get creative and hide the snakes if you had to. I'm not sure what the law is for other states, but in MN a landlord has to give 24 hour notice before entering their rental property.

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That is horrible advise.
Moving into a place without asking their pet policy is just asking to be kicked out.
It cost alot to move into an apartment with fees and all, why would you risk getting kicked out to have to then look for another place to live?

It may not be the pc advice, but it's what most do.

I already decided I wanted to be honest about having my snake when I move in. At least the landlord would know I'm honest, and hopefully that will be able to develop some kind of trust bond between us. Rather then lying and either getting possible kicked out, or for some reason I still had the place, but had no trust with my landlord. Just the way I see it.

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I already decided I wanted to be honest about having my snake when I move in.

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So here's the update after the vet visit. He didn't say anything bad, he gave her a shot as kind of an anti-biotic thing. He couldn't tell about the inner cap because her eyes are all blue and cloudy. She weighs 152 grams now. Also he says she's a little under weight so I'm putting her on a 5 day feeding schedule now. He also gave me better cream to put on her eye. He wants her back for another shot monday, so I set the time up. Would you say it would be okay to still feed her tuesday (which would be her 5 days), or should I just want till thursday and go from there for every 5 days? Any advice would me nice, and she's doing awesome. Swelling went down a lot from the day I got her, and she seems alert like normal.

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So here's the update after the vet visit. He didn't say anything bad, he gave her a shot as kind of an anti-biotic thing. He couldn't tell about the inner cap because her eyes are all blue and cloudy. She weighs 152 grams now. Also he says she's a little under weight so I'm putting her on a 5 day feeding schedule now. He also gave me better cream to put on her eye. He wants her back for another shot monday, so I set the time up. Would you say it would be okay to still feed her tuesday (which would be her 5 days), or should I just want till thursday and go from there for every 5 days? Any advice would me nice, and she's doing awesome. Swelling went down a lot from the day I got her, and she seems alert like normal.

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Hey, I was wondering if we can get some updated photos? Just to see the visual signs of improvement

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Would you say it would be okay to still feed her tuesday (which would be her 5 days), or should I just want till thursday and go from there for every 5 days? Any advice would me nice, and she's doing awesome. Swelling went down a lot from the day I got her, and she seems alert like normal.

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You can try feeding, but don't be suprised if she doesn't eat until she is off the antibiotics. Hopefully she will convert to F/T easily, but you should be prepared for a little tough love because some don't easily convert. Good Luck :gj:...

Sure thing. I'll post an update photo a little later on today.

And okay. Now if I thaw the mouse and she doesn't eat it, would it be okay to re-freeze it once again. Then throw it after after the second thaw is not eaten? Because I was told by the lady I got her it would be okay to freeze it again if she didn't eat it.

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Sure thing. I'll post an update photo a little later on today.

And okay. Now if I thaw the mouse and she doesn't eat it, would it be okay to re-freeze it once again. Then throw it after after the second thaw is not eaten? Because I was told by the lady I got her it would be okay to freeze it again if she didn't eat it.

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Nope, once unfrozen, if it isn't eatten you must throw it out unfortunatly, such a waste of food lol, snakes and thier wasting habits

I've always read that you can refreeze one time and then the 2nd time it's thawed out if it isn't eaten you have to throw it away. I've had to do this a couple of times and had no problem.

I've refrozen food all the time and my snakes have no trouble eating it eventually.

Really? Ive read several times somewhere that you can't do it, oh well, learn something now every day lol

Okay cool. Glad other people have done the whole freeze, thaw, re-freeze thing. I don't plan on re-freezing it more then once. I wouldn't want to keep thawing and re-freezing. I'm sure it'll start going down hill after a few thaws and re-freezes.

Also, here's the photo of the girl! =] It looks way better then what it was (to me at least).

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/100_0088.jpg
I know it looks a little funky, but thats due to the cream I have to put on her eye.

http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/100_0089.jpg

So theres the updated pictures. =]

now that shes in shed, give her complete rest and comfort till she sheds.

Of course. She has to go for another shot monday, but thats it. I also have to put that cream on her eye. But that will be the only time's she'd be bugged. I'd rater not bother her while she's in shed, but I gotta treat that eye. Can't wait till after the shed to see how it looks. I have my fingers crossed for the best, but I know it can take a few more sheds until it looks just about completely healed. I'll throw up another photo of her eye after the shed.

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That is horrible advise.
Moving into a place without asking their pet policy is just asking to be kicked out.
It cost alot to move into an apartment with fees and all, why would you risk getting kicked out to have to then look for another place to live?

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I just keep it general. "securely caged reptiles" Sounds a lot better then 5 pythons and a boa!

Okay. So just as I went into my room to put away my sewing machine, BAM there was my girl in the middle of shedding. =] So I walked out slowly and let her be. When I walked back in she was in the middle of going to the bathroom. XD So once again, I left to let her be alone. After a minute or so I went back in and took her out to check her eye and this is what I saw
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...s/100_0109.jpg

I tried to get another few, but I didn't want to handel her to much just after a shed. I applied some of the medical goo the vet gave me and put her back. I know it'll take a few more sheds before it looks almost like nothing happened, but it seems to me like her eye might be fine, then again I am no expert or vet. She was trying to get away in the middle of the photo so I'm sure by her trying to pull away it pulled on her skin a tad, and she seemed to of been looking away from the camera. lol. Anyways, just wanted to post that. I'm going to attempt to feed her the f/t tomorrow. I'm sure she's wicked hungry after missing a meal, and her shedding. Anyways, tell me what you all think of the eye. I'll try and get another one tomorrow before I feed her, and do a over head shot.