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May's Orlando Repticon!
Who was at Repticon Orlando this past weekend?
I got my sister a rabbit there from the only vendor selling rabbits, and now the rabbit has passed away and I am p****d to say the least. Including rabbit, food, and enclosure I spent more than $50 on it, and while that may not seem a lot to some, it cleared out my wallet but I thought it was a good brotherly thing to do.
I want to know if anyone else on here purchased a rabbit from her and if you've had any problems. The woman runs Rabbit Ranch, or something like that, out of Ft. Myers. She is going to have some issues to deal with from me at the next show if I see her there. I'm going to get my money back.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
You might want to figure out why the rabbit died before you immediately start to blame the woman selling the rabbits. Rabbits do die unexpectedly from many things, including stress.
If there was a vender selling rabbits(or indeed, any animal) that were unhealthy, then I hope you get your money back!
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Originally Posted by wolfy-hound
You might want to figure out why the rabbit died before you immediately start to blame the woman selling the rabbits. Rabbits do die unexpectedly from many things, including stress.
If there was a vender selling rabbits(or indeed, any animal) that were unhealthy, then I hope you get your money back!
We found out that the rabbit she had sold us as a pet was only 3 weeks old. So yeah, I'd blame her.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
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Originally Posted by WakoNako
We found out that the rabbit she had sold us as a pet was only 3 weeks old. So yeah, I'd blame her.
Holy crap, rabbits aren't even supposed to wean until 6 weeks old!!! No wonder baby died. You should definitely see about getting hold of her and having a serious talk. I may be wrong, but from what I understand it's against Florida state law to sell a dog/cat/rabbit/etc. before 8 weeks old. Not only could she potentially have legal action taken against her for selling you the rabbit, she could be in serious trouble with authorities for animal neglect. I'd suggest you contact her and confront her about it, though if you're a minor you should have your parents or another trusted adult do so, because that will carry more weight with her and authorities.
I hope you are able to work all this out! I'd suggest you find a reputable rabbit breeder in your area who'd be willing to sell you a pet-quality rabbit from their show stock. Most breeders who show their animals will say on their site that they occasionally sell pet-quality animals. You're almost always better getting any animal from a trusted breeder! Good luck, and I hope everything works out for you.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
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Originally Posted by Seneschal
Holy crap, rabbits aren't even supposed to wean until 6 weeks old!!! No wonder baby died. You should definitely see about getting hold of her and having a serious talk. I may be wrong, but from what I understand it's against Florida state law to sell a dog/cat/rabbit/etc. before 8 weeks old. Not only could she potentially have legal action taken against her for selling you the rabbit, she could be in serious trouble with authorities for animal neglect. I'd suggest you contact her and confront her about it, though if you're a minor you should have your parents or another trusted adult do so, because that will carry more weight with her and authorities.
I hope you are able to work all this out! I'd suggest you find a reputable rabbit breeder in your area who'd be willing to sell you a pet-quality rabbit from their show stock. Most breeders who show their animals will say on their site that they occasionally sell pet-quality animals. You're almost always better getting any animal from a trusted breeder! Good luck, and I hope everything works out for you.
Thanks. We figured she was a trusted breeder because she gave away a 'pet' rabbit in a raffle the day before. The 'Wrepticon Wabbit Wraffle'. She's now claiming I brought the rabbit as reptile food even though i brought a months supply of food and told my sister to pick out the rabbit she wanted as a pet.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
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Originally Posted by WakoNako
Thanks. We figured she was a trusted breeder because she gave away a 'pet' rabbit in a raffle the day before. The 'Wrepticon Wabbit Wraffle'. She's now claiming I brought the rabbit as reptile food even though i brought a months supply of food and told my sister to pick out the rabbit she wanted as a pet.
Well, I guess the only thing I know to suggest is to tell her that unless she replaces the rabbit with one of appropriate age and ceases to sell underage animals as pets you'll report her to the Better Business Bureau.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
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Originally Posted by Seneschal
Well, I guess the only thing I know to suggest is to tell her that unless she replaces the rabbit with one of appropriate age and ceases to sell underage animals as pets you'll report her to the Better Business Bureau.
I tried that, she was very rude to myself and then to my mother when she called (I'm 20, but my mom wanted to be involved for my sisters sake). I've contacted Repticon and now we're looking up the laws about underage animal sales (thanks for the pointer) and we're gonna pursue it. At the very least I will most likely be making a scene at the next repticon i see her at.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
Just a quick update. After being in contact with representatives from Repticon, Carolyn (Rabbit woman) has now decided to get in contact with us to try and resolve the situation without having to involve the sheriff. We're going to record the phone conversation and see how it goes.
Part of me doesn't want to involve the law as she seems to at least trying to resolve the situation, but the other part of me wants to because she needs her business practices looking into. Its not right to be selling such young rabbits and taking them away from their mothers at such a young age, before they've even finished being weaned.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
Just out of curiosity, how did you find out it was only 3 weeks old?...
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
Glad to hear that things are being worked out for you, and I hope that things turn out good. Good idea on getting Repticon involved! I'd still suggest you get hold of the BBB, because even if she makes your situation right, it's still not good to be selling unweaned babies as pets. Good luck, and let us know how things work out.
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Originally Posted by Vypyrz
Just out of curiosity, how did you find out it was only 3 weeks old?...
Sorry. We called her. We actually got it at 5 weeks of age, but she informed us on the phone that if the mother rabbit hasn't eaten the babies by 3 weeks she takes them away from the mother and feeds them pellets.
Either way, it was taken away from the mother at too young of an age, it was sold to us at too young of an age and she broke the law.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
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Originally Posted by Seneschal
Glad to hear that things are being worked out for you, and I hope that things turn out good. Good idea on getting Repticon involved! I'd still suggest you get hold of the BBB, because even if she makes your situation right, it's still not good to be selling unweaned babies as pets. Good luck, and let us know how things work out.
She's not listed on BBB. We can't find her anywhere except on Repticon's website.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
Yeah at 5 weeks old, it's just reptile food. Shouldn't have been sold as a viable pet. If she claims it was sold as a prey item, she might be legal(just like most of us do not buy rats older than 8 weeks old).
However, she should make it right, since selling an animal too young to survive as a pet ensures a dead pet. Hopefully she'll make it right for you.
Your sister should research rabbits and breeds and ages and such, so she can get a rabbit that will fullfill her wishes as pet. Some breeds make better lap pets while others are better to look at(high strung). Dwarf lops are great pets, imo, although all lops are pretty laid back. Some get huge, some stay small. Once she has a better idea of what kinds would be best as a pet, then you could find a pet rabbit that she can love for a long time.
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Re: May's Orlando Repticon!
We got a Netherland Dwarf from her and I made it very clear when I brought the rabbit it was a pet. I let my sister pick out the one she wanted as a pet and I brought a month's worth of food at the same time. Who would buy a month's worth of food for prey?
But anyway, she called today. We recorded the conversation. At first she offered us $10 off our next pet rabbit we purchase from her. A little while later she offered to sell us a rabbit of her choosing for $10. We did get her, on tape, admitting that every rabbit she breeds is removed from the mother by the age of 4 weeks and it then goes up for sale.
We told her we'd think about her offer and let her know. I'll let you know what we all decide, whether its taking it up with her and involving the law or just leaving it. I'm just a college student earning less than $150 a week, so for me to spend $35 on a rabbit, $5 on food and another $20 on bedding and stuff for it all to be a waste within a week is a bit of a pisser.
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