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  • 05-28-2010, 09:47 PM
    mr. s
    PRIVATE information sale?!
    This really surprised me and opened my eyes. I thought everyone should see this. It is absolutely astounding that this is actually true! :O

    YouTube - Digital Photocopiers Loaded With Secrets
  • 05-28-2010, 10:41 PM
    llovelace
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Yes, I saw it on the news a few days ago, srub, scrub, scrub.
  • 05-28-2010, 10:47 PM
    joepythons
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Wow :O
  • 05-28-2010, 10:58 PM
    punkoldschool
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    you would at least think the police would know and scrub the info
  • 05-28-2010, 11:06 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    best question is what is the point in having a copier save 20,000+ images? has anyone ever NEEDED to go back and see what was copied by checking the hard drive?
  • 05-28-2010, 11:08 PM
    punkoldschool
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 771subliminal View Post
    best question is what is the point in having a copier save 20,000+ images? has anyone ever NEEDED to go back and see what was copied by checking the hard drive?

    yea the identity theaves and fraudsters lol :P but yea what is the point in havig the info saved?
  • 05-28-2010, 11:28 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    also $500 for the upgrade that deletes the files? thats alot for an eraser. doesnt it seem that it would be cheaper just to put a harddrive in thats smaller and just overwrites after 25 or so documents, altho i still dont see the point in saving any


    can we get the copier from peta or hsus?
  • 05-29-2010, 12:03 AM
    Vypyrz
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 771subliminal View Post

    can we get the copier from peta or hsus?

    Ohhh, the story that would tell...:gj:
  • 05-29-2010, 12:16 AM
    mainbutter
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by 771subliminal View Post
    also $500 for the upgrade that deletes the files? thats alot for an eraser.

    There is "removing files from a hard drive", and then there is SCRUBBING a hard drive so that nothing can be recovered.

    If we weren't so good at recovering things from hard drives, it wouldn't be a big deal.
  • 05-29-2010, 12:28 AM
    steveboos
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    This is WAY too scary and i didn't know about it until just now!
  • 05-29-2010, 03:18 AM
    771subliminal
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mainbutter View Post
    There is "removing files from a hard drive", and then there is SCRUBBING a hard drive so that nothing can be recovered.

    If we weren't so good at recovering things from hard drives, it wouldn't be a big deal.

    yes for the initial program for the company to make might cost a little bit but how much does it cost for them to upload it on to each hard drive while they are uploading all the other stuff? its not like they have to build a new program for each copier so the cost per unit sold gets less and less with everyone that goes out the door
  • 05-29-2010, 09:52 AM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Oh yea it is crazy....I too heard about this the other day. Think of Kinko.....how much info they have on their hard drives. Pretty scary!!

    Off subject but a friend of mine told me when you use your debit card on one of those machines at the store that you always press cancel after the transaction. Apparently the person at the counter or behind you can somehow get to you number if you do not. It was a long involved story and I do not remember the details but ya better believe that I press cancel now.

    They also say to write down those 3 numbers on the back of your credit cards and debit cards and then scratch them out. If you go to dinner and the person takes your card....they can easily write down the number and the 3 on the back and charge stuff to your card. Scammer have all kinds of tricks...ugh.
  • 05-29-2010, 11:19 AM
    coldblooded
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BPelizabeth View Post
    Oh yea it is crazy....I too heard about this the other day. Think of Kinko.....how much info they have on their hard drives. Pretty scary!!

    Off subject but a friend of mine told me when you use your debit card on one of those machines at the store that you always press cancel after the transaction. Apparently the person at the counter or behind you can somehow get to you number if you do not. It was a long involved story and I do not remember the details but ya better believe that I press cancel now.

    They also say to write down those 3 numbers on the back of your credit cards and debit cards and then scratch them out. If you go to dinner and the person takes your card....they can easily write down the number and the 3 on the back and charge stuff to your card. Scammer have all kinds of tricks...ugh.

    I can't speak for FedEx: Office (Kinkos) , but I work as a Xerox Specialist at Office Depot (in the Copy and Print Department). We, the associates, have no way of getting your card number. A manager can access the copier via the computer to retrieve a receipt if needed, but it only ends in the last four digits, as all receipts do. I'd also like to note that the managers cannot get your card number, either, due to the system that is used to protect against such things. When a card is swiped the information goes straight to credit processing, the information is not retained in the store or the register.

    Despite popular belief, most of us retail people aren't out to get you ;)

    I am not sure why they would put large hard drives in a copy machines. The computers that operate the copiers do require space to run the operating system on the machine, as well as space to copy a scanned (not copied) document to the network for retrieval.

    I cannot speak for Xerox on the matter, but there isn't a feasible way to store every single copy ever done on the machine, but depending on the space of the hard disk in the machine, it could store quite a bit.
  • 05-29-2010, 01:38 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldblooded View Post
    I can't speak for FedEx: Office (Kinkos) , but I work as a Xerox Specialist at Office Depot (in the Copy and Print Department). We, the associates, have no way of getting your card number. A manager can access the copier via the computer to retrieve a receipt if needed, but it only ends in the last four digits, as all receipts do. I'd also like to note that the managers cannot get your card number, either, due to the system that is used to protect against such things. When a card is swiped the information goes straight to credit processing, the information is not retained in the store or the register.

    Despite popular belief, most of us retail people aren't out to get you ;)

    I am not sure why they would put large hard drives in a copy machines. The computers that operate the copiers do require space to run the operating system on the machine, as well as space to copy a scanned (not copied) document to the network for retrieval.

    I cannot speak for Xerox on the matter, but there isn't a feasible way to store every single copy ever done on the machine, but depending on the space of the hard disk in the machine, it could store quite a bit.

    not all credit card machines are like that, when i worked at jimmy johns our machine would print out you entire number on the main copy of the receipt and only the last 4 on the customer copy but we could go in anytime b4 the machine was closed out for the shift and hit reprint and one with the number would print out. i know one time we had to go threw and reenter every card number by hand and recharge everyone cuz the machine was connecting one day.

    also think about everytime you order a pizza and you put it on your card they are writing down the number as you say it and then they even ask you to give them the 3 digit code on the back.
  • 05-30-2010, 04:36 PM
    David802
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    How many butts do you think are saved on that thing....


    :P
  • 05-30-2010, 04:40 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by David802 View Post
    How many butts do you think are saved on that thing....


    :P

    LOL i was thinking that too
  • 06-01-2010, 06:52 PM
    NatelovesBPs
    Re: PRIVATE information sale?!
    Crazy....
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