Sharing my frustration

I think that some of my snakes are planning a conspiracy of sorts against me:whisper:. No piebalds this next season if I don't find my escapee....:weirdface

Not sure who will remember, but about a month and a half ago, my little male het pied went Houdini and escaped and went outside and down a drain for 2 weeks only to be flushed out by a small flood we had.

Well....

My female het pied decided she was sick of her house and split today. Or maybe last night I am not entirely sure. Can't find her anywhere. Whats crazy is how she got out. :bolt: I have everyone set up on a fogger system that I have plumbed to each tub. Well, she managed to dislodge then remove the plumbing and squeeze out a half inch hole. She is around 1000g! I don't know how she managed but she is good. This isn't her first escape either. Just first one that I haven't been able to find her within the first few hours. And I will admit before it was my fault letting her get out where I messed up, but I had no clue she was a journeyman plumber so I didn't see this one coming lol.

Today was feeding day so I set a couple live hoppers out in a wire cage next to a hide to see if I can entice her to come out from where she is hiding.

Wish me luck on the hunt for this one!

Man i feel your frustrations! Nothing gets me more upset then when i have no idea how the hell my snake managed to get out and even less of an idea where she could be. As im sure your know of the spots they usually go ill spare you that. Just keep things dark and scent the rooms and hopefully the little bugger will come out in the open. Wish you the absolute best of luck my friend. I pray the snake gods be with you!

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Originally Posted by DrEwTiMe

Man i feel your frustrations! Nothing gets me more upset then when i have no idea how the hell my snake managed to get out and even less of an idea where she could be. As im sure your know of the spots they usually go ill spare you that. Just keep things dark and scent the rooms and hopefully the little bugger will come out in the open. Wish you the absolute best of luck my friend. I pray the snake gods be with you!

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Many thanks to you! Yeah I wish this was my first dance lol. This one here has escaped a couple time from feeding tubs and once even managed to get wrapped up in a circular saw.... I have my snake room in my garage. It gets irritating thats for sure! Time for a new rack I think.

I think you may need new enclosures that are more secure! Good luck!

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Originally Posted by Swingline0.0.1

I think you may need new enclosures that are more secure! Good luck!

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You are correct. I am likely going to build a new rack in the next few days. I need to anyway as my collection seems to be growing too fast for the space I have!

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Originally Posted by jtyson123

wrapped up in a circular saw....

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:O:tears::please:

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Originally Posted by jtyson123

Many thanks to you! Yeah I wish this was my first dance lol. This one here has escaped a couple time from feeding tubs and once even managed to get wrapped up in a circular saw.... I have my snake room in my garage. It gets irritating thats for sure! Time for a new rack I think.

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Wow think you have me beat with the circular saw lol. I had to take a part my baseboard heating in my room where the tank is. She had her head peaking out looking at me but here was no way to get her out without taking the whole front panel off, she wasn't exactly cooperating either!

It really is amazing the small spaces they get through, my girl is about 1300g's and she fit through a space that i didn't think her head would go through let alone her largest part.

They are masters at squeezing through the tiniest little spaces. The circular saw was a good one. Also wedged herself behind my welder once too in between it and the wall. Guess it was warm. Still haven't found her as of this morning. After work today I have to start tearing the garage apart to see if I can find this little bugger.

Do you have any crawl spaces or ways she coud escape into the outside. and do you use the actual bay door to come in and out? I really hope that she didn't find a way to get outside :(. Best of luck tonight

Sadly, I had a broken window that was covered with only cardboard, and it might be possible that she got outside. Lord willing though, she didn't. It was cold outside - high 40s low 50s so hopefully she would have stuck to the warmth of the garage. We shall see! The last one that got out went outside and down my drain, then it flooded and backed up - worst rain I can remember in a long time. When it flooded, the snake washed up and was freezing so went to the garage to try to get warm. Found him the next morning. Hopefully this one does the same thing

I don't use the garage for the truck though, its too tall to fit:D

LOL lets hope that you dont' need another flood to find this one! But ya im sure she felt that cold and opted for spot in the warmer garage. Keep us posted!

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Originally Posted by jtyson123

I think that some of my snakes are planning a conspiracy of sorts against me:whisper:. No piebalds this next season if I don't find my escapee....:weirdface

Not sure who will remember, but about a month and a half ago, my little male het pied went Houdini and escaped and went outside and down a drain for 2 weeks only to be flushed out by a small flood we had.

Well....

My female het pied decided she was sick of her house and split today. Or maybe last night I am not entirely sure. Can't find her anywhere. Whats crazy is how she got out. :bolt: I have everyone set up on a fogger system that I have plumbed to each tub. Well, she managed to dislodge then remove the plumbing and squeeze out a half inch hole. She is around 1000g! I don't know how she managed but she is good. This isn't her first escape either. Just first one that I haven't been able to find her within the first few hours. And I will admit before it was my fault letting her get out where I messed up, but I had no clue she was a journeyman plumber so I didn't see this one coming lol.

Today was feeding day so I set a couple live hoppers out in a wire cage next to a hide to see if I can entice her to come out from where she is hiding.

Wish me luck on the hunt for this one!

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You seem to have a lot of escapes going on. Have you thought about changing your set up to make i more secure? I would have after the first 1 escaped.

[QUOTE=BigBlue56;1346382]You seem to have a lot of escapes going on. Have you thought about changing your set up to make i more secure? I would have after the first 1 escaped.[/QUOT

Yeah I am changing everything. First one was my fault definitely because I didn't put the lid on the tub correctly. This time, the snake managed to unhook the plumbing that had been fine for over a year now. Still my fault, but not something I could really see coming

Hope you find her soon.

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Originally Posted by cboocks

Hope you find her soon.

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Thank you! Still no luck as of today. Hopefully she will get hungry soon and start searching for the live hoppers in wire cages I have placed. It has been raining the last couple days, but no floods yet, but I wish there was! That seemed to bring the last one back. --- How lucky would that be? Two floods at the perfect time in the middle of the desert

do you have a problem with simple physics? i mean an enclosure only has 6 sides and all you need to do is make sure that all 6 sides are intact, it doesnt seem like rocket science. and if you ask me, which you didnt but ill tell you anyway, its not in a ball pythons nature to go walkabout unless theres something wrong with his environment. in nature, ball pythons are little more than a extra long sausage with a head. they stay in their hide and wait to ambush. only moving OUT OF NECESSITY. my ball python has *NEVER* tried to escape for no reason. the times when i have found him rubbing against the glass, testing it for weaknesses, its been because he's dirtied his cage, or his temps were too low/high, he didnt like his hide or the humidity was way off. i'd guess he might try and hunt if he were absolutely starving but im never going to let my snake starve. i forgot to close the enclosure once before bed, and didnt check in the morning. 16 hours later he was still in his hide, because he knows thats the best place to be.

seriously, i worry for the health of all of your snakes.:(

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Originally Posted by seercirra

do you have a problem with simple physics? i mean an enclosure only has 6 sides and all you need to do is make sure that all 6 sides are intact, it doesnt seem like rocket science. and if you ask me, which you didnt but ill tell you anyway, its not in a ball pythons nature to go walkabout unless theres something wrong with his environment. in nature, ball pythons are little more than a extra long sausage with a head. they stay in their hide and wait to ambush. only moving OUT OF NECESSITY. my ball python has *NEVER* tried to escape for no reason. the times when i have found him rubbing against the glass, testing it for weaknesses, its been because he's dirtied his cage, or his temps were too low/high, he didnt like his hide or the humidity was way off. i'd guess he might try and hunt if he were absolutely starving but im never going to let my snake starve. i forgot to close the enclosure once before bed, and didnt check in the morning. 16 hours later he was still in his hide, because he knows thats the best place to be.

seriously, i worry for the health of all of your snakes.:(

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Whoa no need to get nasty

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Originally Posted by dc1

Whoa no need to get nasty

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nah sorry i didnt mean to sound nasty, its not personal im just trying to get a point across.

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Originally Posted by seercirra

nah sorry i didnt mean to sound nasty, its not personal im just trying to get a point across.

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I was thinking along the same lines.

I get a bit perturbed when I read stories of people's ball escaping time and again. A snake will only ever escape if you have allowed it to to find a way.

Get your setups secure. Use a pen and poke it around each enclosure, if the pen fits through any gaps then your enclosure is not secure.

Hope your ball comes back/you find it, I'd be screwing a nut if any of mine escaped and I did not find it within 5 minutes or within 5 meters of its enclosure....

It's possible to get a point across without talking down to people.

The OP said he realizes he has a problem is going to build a new rack.

People aren't allowed to be *human* anymore? :confuzd:

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Originally Posted by seercirra

do you have a problem with simple physics? i mean an enclosure only has 6 sides and all you need to do is make sure that all 6 sides are intact, it doesnt seem like rocket science. and if you ask me, which you didnt but ill tell you anyway, its not in a ball pythons nature to go walkabout unless theres something wrong with his environment. in nature, ball pythons are little more than a extra long sausage with a head. they stay in their hide and wait to ambush. only moving OUT OF NECESSITY. my ball python has *NEVER* tried to escape for no reason. the times when i have found him rubbing against the glass, testing it for weaknesses, its been because he's dirtied his cage, or his temps were too low/high, he didnt like his hide or the humidity was way off. i'd guess he might try and hunt if he were absolutely starving but im never going to let my snake starve. i forgot to close the enclosure once before bed, and didnt check in the morning. 16 hours later he was still in his hide, because he knows thats the best place to be.

seriously, i worry for the health of all of your snakes.:(

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If you're seriously that worried, come take a look at my set ups and tell me how you would change things. I am open to learning especially from someone who is apparently as all knowing wise as you seem to be. :rolleyes: Simple physics, way too much for me apparently. I personally have never been fortunate enough to go to to africa to observe these snakes in their natural habitat and study how they really act. Though I think I should put it on my to do list so I can get these dang little pythons really figured out.

Maybe if you only have one snake you don't realize that different snakes have different habits. This one that escaped, tends to be a wanderer. Always has. Not an issue with husbandry because all of my others are just fine in the exact same conditions. And everybody gets fed weekly, nobody misses meals unless they choose to.

Now the first ball python that escaped, yes it was my fault for not putting the lid on the tub correctly. And it was a quarantine tub, so of course he didn't like it. He hadn't been in there long enough to get comfortable.

On a more serious note, thank you to all of you who aren't quite so judgemental, and yes I am in the process of changing things to be more secure :) turns out I am still human....oh well!