super genetic stripe.

okay so ive been looking around and i have to say that as of now my favorite bp morph is a super genetic stripe.... and i was just wondering how in the world you would make one of these it looks nothing like any other morph (other than the normal genetic stripe). so my real questionn is what would i need to make one of these? and what are the odds....


thanks, Mike H.:D

Can you point us to this animal? I know about super stripe (a combo of yellow belly and either specter or whirlwind) and genetic stripe (a single recessive). But I find a new name everyone seems to know all the time so maybe super genetic stripe is code for double homozygous genetic stripe and pastel for all I know.

no, ive never heard of it either. he might be refering to the super striper, which is NOT a genetic stripe. it got more like 3 or 5 stripes really, and is its own recessive morph, tsk had em for 10k, for hets

your talking about a tri stripe and theyre 20k

upon further inspection the super stiper is also the super stripe ( gg multiple names for single morphs, stupid people wanting to feel special ) but either way, neither the super stripe or tri stripe are "super" genetic stripes.

and yes 20k for a visual and 10k for a het, i saw the add for them on kingsnake several months ago

op: do you have a pic of what you are talking about?

sorry guys i didnt realize it was a super pastel genetic stripe............ but my question still stands..... how am i to make these....in the far future lol


sorry,
Mike H.

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Originally Posted by Mrgbb

sorry guys i didnt realize it was a super pastel genetic stripe............ but my question still stands..... how am i to make these....in the far future lol


sorry,
Mike H.

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Buy a genetic stripe and a super pastel. One male the other female.

Breed them, you have ALL pastels het genetic stripe.

Keep back a male and 2 females = super pastel genetic stripes :D

I hate dealing with 66% het's. If a super pastel genetic stripe were my goal I would buy a Pastel Het Genetic stripe female today and raise it up until ready to breed.

In a couple years the price will come down some and you can get your Pastel Genetic Stripe male to breed with her.

P GS X P Het GS = 1/8 Super P GS

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Originally Posted by JayCee

I hate dealing with 66% het's. If a super pastel genetic stripe were my goal I would buy a Pastel Het Genetic stripe female today and raise it up until ready to breed.

In a couple years the price will come down some and you can get your Pastel Genetic Stripe male to breed with her.

P GS X P Het GS = 1/8 Super P GS

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u wouldnt have to deal with possible hets. super pastel x gen. stripe= 100% pastel het (100%) gen. stripe.

pastel het x pastel het- super pastel genetic stripe.

i think this way would be the samrter to go. plus u can efford them now- super pastels and genetic stripes are not that expensive...

okay..... theres one thing i still dont get about the whole genetics thing if genetic stripe is a genetic mutation than that meant that there is a possibility of them being in the wild? and plus many others like albino and all the others genetic mutations. whene i try to think about this stuff it keeps me thinking for a while..... lmao!:D

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Originally Posted by joe23

u wouldnt have to deal with possible hets. super pastel x gen. stripe= 100% pastel het (100%) gen. stripe.

pastel het x pastel het- super pastel genetic stripe.

i think this way would be the samrter to go. plus u can efford them now- super pastels and genetic stripes are not that expensive...

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youre contradicting yourself, het to het gives you visuals and 66% hets......

im confused again......

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Originally Posted by Mrgbb

im confused again......

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ok

if you bred a super pastel to a genetic stripe you would get 100% pastel het g.stripe, every single baby.

then if you bred those together everything you got that wasnt a visual genetic stripe would be 66% het g.stripe

with about 50% overall being pastels
but you could also get normals or the super pastel genetic stripe

If you take a super pastel all the off spring will all be pastels.

If you take an exibiting G stripe all the off spring will be Het for g strip (they carry the genes for G stripe)

If you take a Super pastel to an exibiting G strip then all of the offspring will be pastel Het for G stripe.


Grow out the babies and put the babies together. You will have a 1 in 4 chance of getting a super pastel and you have a 1 in 4 chance of getting a G Stripe. I may be wrong but I believe you have a 1 in 16 chance of a super pastel G stripe. All the offspring of a Het to Het, There is a 66% chanch they will be het for G Stripe. Remember tho that genitics are a crap shoot and because you should get 1 in 4 or 1 in 16 it doesnt always happen

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Originally Posted by BAMReptiles

youre contradicting yourself, het to het gives you visuals and 66% hets......

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ah ok- u meant in the 2nd breeding- ok than ure right. but in the first breeding u wouldnt get any possible hets.


so i think were both right...

and for the threadstarter: its not that hard.

u breed a super pastel to a genetic stripe. the super pastel is (co?-)dominat so all ur offspring will be pastels. the genetic stripe is rezessive. so all babys carry the gene for genetic stripe, but the do not express themself in the phenotype.

now u have a full litter of pastels het. genetic stripe.

when u breed them together, u get genetic stripes, pastel genetic stripes, super genetic stripes and normals.

but since u cant tell which one is het and which one is normal, u call them 66% possible het. that means that 2/3 babies are 100% hets and 1/3 is a normal



oh sorry guys- i havent read the whole threat- just read till" im confused again"- ok- now u got 3 times the same answer...lol

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Originally Posted by joe23

when u breed them together, u have a chance get genetic stripes, pastel genetic stripes, super genetic stripes and normals.

but since u cant tell which one is het and which one is normal, u call them 66% possible het. that means that 2/3 babies are 100% hets and 1/3 is a normal
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You actually have a chance of g stripe, normal, pastel, super pastel, pastel Gstripe ans super pastel g stripe.

Yes when you breed a het x het all the off spring are considered 66% pos het

yes ure right. ive forgotten the pastels and have written that u would get super genetic stripes- i ve forgot the pastel in between.

for the ts- there is no super genetic stripes- they doesnt exist- i made a mistake...