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  • 05-15-2010, 12:29 AM
    rab21w
    Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    I'm planning on building a cage/rack system modeled after a barrister book case. It's going to be built from 3/4 inch plywood so heating through it is not an option. I was trying to find a way to use flex watt but I'm getting mixed answers on whether I can use it INSIDE an enclosure. Basically I need an idea on how to heat the enclosures. Preferably without drilling hundreds of holes in my piece.
  • 05-15-2010, 03:03 AM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
  • 05-15-2010, 09:28 AM
    WakoNako
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    I built a wooden cage (you can see it in the DIY section) and I'm heating it using a sheet of flexwatt inside the cage.
    The wires run outside the cage and there is a ceramic tile on top of the flexwatt. On the tile is about 2-3" of substrate. The max temp I'm gettin on top of the substrate is like 94-95 degrees now depending if the door to my room is open or not.
  • 05-15-2010, 10:11 AM
    stevepoppers
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WakoNako View Post
    I built a wooden cage (you can see it in the DIY section) and I'm heating it using a sheet of flexwatt inside the cage.
    The wires run outside the cage and there is a ceramic tile on top of the flexwatt. On the tile is about 2-3" of substrate. The max temp I'm gettin on top of the substrate is like 94-95 degrees now depending if the door to my room is open or not.

    What if they burrow down underneath the substrate to the ceramic tile? What temperature will they get there?

    I'm sorry. It just sounds too hot from what I've learned here.
  • 05-15-2010, 10:23 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    I agree with the previous poster, Radiant Heat Panels are a good option.

    Is this only for ball pythons? Why don't you just make a rack with tubs?
  • 05-15-2010, 11:17 AM
    kristan
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    I've built a cage just like you are describing. I cut holes out of the floor and routed ledges so I could sit 8x10 pieces of glass in flush with the wood. I then tiled and caulked the whole thing (so it is waterproof) and it has worked out great. Radiant heat panels will also work.
    http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...thia27/945.jpg
    http://i397.photobucket.com/albums/p...lthia27/17.jpg
  • 05-15-2010, 11:22 AM
    TessadasExotics
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    Only thing about using flex watt inside is that you could have a problem if a water bowl gets tipped over. I think a heat panel or a CHE is your best bet.
  • 05-15-2010, 11:43 AM
    rab21w
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    This is only for ball pythons. I have a rack system already, it's just so gaudy looking. If I was a big time breeder or going for straight efficiency then a rack system alone with the tubs would be fine. However, I want to be able to display my snakes proudly and have a nice piece of furniture at the same time. Also, this setup would be better for them because it would give them more privacy.
  • 05-15-2010, 12:34 PM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    I have seen it tiled previously and liked the idea.....put the probe on the tile itself. You could use papertowels or newspapers as a substrate...that way the temp on the tile is the temp the snake is receiving. Plus easy clean.
  • 05-15-2010, 12:35 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rab21w View Post
    This is only for ball pythons. I have a rack system already, it's just so gaudy looking. If I was a big time breeder or going for straight efficiency then a rack system alone with the tubs would be fine. However, I want to be able to display my snakes proudly and have a nice piece of furniture at the same time. Also, this setup would be better for them because it would give them more privacy.

    Give them more privacy?

    How do you figure this? Your gonna have a big open window where as they would be in a tub where they cant see anything :rolleyes:

    Not to mention you want it to be display? Bp's are not good display animals lol
  • 05-15-2010, 12:59 PM
    mommanessy247
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    look at the kitty having a peek, lol.
  • 05-15-2010, 03:23 PM
    rab21w
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Give them more privacy?

    How do you figure this? Your gonna have a big open window where as they would be in a tub where they cant see anything :rolleyes:

    Not to mention you want it to be display? Bp's are not good display animals lol

    Yes, my rack system is open on all sides, so being closed in on all but one side would be more privacy.
  • 05-15-2010, 08:23 PM
    chapskis1
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    I don't understand fully how the cage you are planning on building is gonna look, so I'm not sure if this would work or not. But, I have a custom wood enclosure, and I used plexiglass for the floor so I could use flexwatt (not to put on top of the wood, but actually used plexiglass AS the floor.)
  • 05-15-2010, 10:12 PM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Help, heating wooden enclosure.
    I would love to see pics when you are done....the person that posted the pics on here....that was beautiful!!

    By the way...there are plenty of ppl that have balls in display cases and do just fine!! During the day they probably won't come out...but at night I have a few that use to wander and hang on the limb as if they were GTP. lol :rolleyes: This was all prior to my tubs...;)
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