Who breeds black pastels ?

If anyone can reccomend someone who breeds high quality clean colored black pastels with lots of gold/ copper color I dont care how much it cost. I just want the best specimen of that morph I can find

I got mine from Chun Ku of Dynasty Reptiles. The female he bred himself; he had her paired with a male from Ian G. at Outback, and then the customer buying the pair backed out, so Mr. Ku sold me the male for free with the female. The female is beautiful, bright gold & dark black. The male is a bit more on the brown side, but he has the solid black back, and he eats like a monster.

I especially like Mr. Ku's super black pastels. They're charcoal black and they don't seem duck-billed from the pics I've seen--but they sell too fast for me to even get a chance to inquire.

I also really, really like the look of that new line of black pastels, the Liesen line, from Gary (Snakeman) Liesen.

Gulf Coast Reptiles :gj:

Gary Liesen's are the best as far as I am concerned. I have some pics of ours in the picture section. (or on our website in my sig)

If you want one with a lighter, cinnamon-ish color, go through Ian G... he produced my boy Dave (via Skiploder), and I think he's a hottie! :gj:

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p.../DavePaco8.jpg

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

Gary Liesen's are the best as far as I am concerned. I have some pics of ours in the picture section. (or on our website in my sig)

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Your black pastel is Hot, that is exactly what I am looking for someone mentioned Gary Liessen to me before but I had a hard time searching for his web address and when I found it he didn't have any available, but baby season is comeing up. Thanks for sharing the info

We've been known to produce a few :)

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Originally Posted by Mike@OutbackReptiles

We've been known to produce a few :)

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LOL Mike...
We held back one boy from breeding our male Outback Reptiles black pastel het ghost to a normal.
http://i968.photobucket.com/albums/a...y/PICT2962.jpg

Voracious eater he is, as is the 08 female we have...

I am also a BIG fan of Gary Liesens line of Black Pastels and heres some pictures for ya

http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...1/DSC_0646.jpg


http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...d1/blkpas1.jpg



http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/f...nd1/blkpas.jpg

That snake is beautiful I think the leissen line is definatly what I want.

Heather Wong of Heathersherps.com produces some awesome black pastels

Yeah I have seen hers the are great as well she is definantly on the possibilities list however she doesnt have any available on her page.

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Originally Posted by Royal Morphz

Heather Wong of Heathersherps.com produces some awesome black pastels

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I agree, Heather produces some of the nicest looking ones I've seen. I don't know if she has any right now though. Lady Ohh.

Man, do I want a Liesen black pastel now!

Anyway, here's my 2008 female from Chun Ku at Dynasty Reptiles:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/img_2996.jpg

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/img_3000.jpg

And here's George, my big boy, bred by Ian G. at Outback and sold by Dynasty Reptiles:

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...5/img_3008.jpg

By the way, for all that BHB says that dark snakes are more aggressive, these two are the sweetest animals in my collection. George is my party snake because he's so good with strangers and kids.

Here are the gorgeous supers Dynasty Reptiles makes:

http://www.dreptiles.com/pages/colle...uperblack.html

I may be biased but I like the VPI Satin Black line the best. Here is one of my adult breeders and a sample of a baby. I have babies hatching as we speek from the pair that made the adult male in the pic.

Ryan Young

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../SatinBLK1.jpg

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3.../SatinBLK2.jpg

Here is one right out of the egg. So black they are hard to photograph. VPI Satins are the way to go.

Ryan Young

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a3...es/09BLKP1.jpg

I got mines from Chun Ku in last years Daytona show. She was a result from black pastel X black pastel.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...184d7792f5.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1.../BlkPastel.jpg
No head stripe
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...0815ed5d20.jpg
A recent shed picture at 600gs with a colorful backround. As she matures I see her still holding her color very well.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b1...1/DSCN0443.jpg