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  • 05-11-2010, 01:46 PM
    dshem
    Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    I saw an ad on fauna classifed of Joseph Capone selling lessers and mojaves for a good deal. He wanted me to pay at paypal. Im not sure if this is a scam or if hes a legit seller. Does anyone know? How can i make sure that he is selling me the correct snake? Do i ask for pictures or other stuff to make sure its legit?
  • 05-11-2010, 01:48 PM
    SlitherinSisters
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    You need to ask this in the business section.
  • 05-11-2010, 01:50 PM
    Drew87
    Re: I wanna breed a lesser but need to purchase it. Need help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dshem View Post
    I saw an ad on fauna classifed of Joseph Capone (Power House Reptile) selling lessers and mojaves for a good deal. He wanted me to pay at paypal. Im not sure if this is a scam or if hes a legit seller. Does anyone know? How can i make sure that he is selling me the correct snake? Do i ask for pictures or other stuff to make sure its legit?

    I believe Fauna has a place to look up feed back on people something like that, yes request pics call him ask questions etc. Best of luck and paypal is a very good way to pay.
  • 05-11-2010, 01:51 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: Mojaves and Lessers from Joseph Capone Power House reptile
    why have you posted the same question in 3 different areas (all of which are the wong ones). Questions like this belong in the inquiries/feedback section, found here; http://ball-pythons.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=90
  • 05-11-2010, 01:52 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Mojaves and Lessers from Joseph Capone Power House reptile
    I saw that market crashing ad
  • 05-11-2010, 01:53 PM
    bsash
    Re: I wanna breed a lesser but need to purchase it. Need help
    Well, Paypal is pretty safe in general to pay with. Another thing you could do is ask him for an updated picture with the date and his name in it, if he is a reputable breeder, and actually has the snake, he won't refuse. As well, ask what kind of guarantee he offers on the snakes, live arrival is a must for me, but some will offer a guarantee for about a week after you have them.

    Also, check faunaclassifieds.com on the Board Of Inquiry section, just to make sure he has good feedback.

    Good luck!
  • 05-11-2010, 01:53 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    He's a scumbag. He may sell cheap, but you're giving your money to slime.

    I would HIGHLY recommend you find another breeder.
  • 05-11-2010, 02:01 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    He's a scumbag. He may sell cheap, but you're giving your money to slime.

    I would HIGHLY recommend you find another breeder.

    Hey Wes,
    Any history on him on fauna? Or personal experience?

    I'm going to stay away from him just because of the red flag prices he threw up. I can't stand market throwers.
  • 05-11-2010, 02:03 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Joe Capone is the used car dealer of Balls... literally. ;)
  • 05-11-2010, 02:04 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Please only create one thread to ask a question..multiple threads to ask the same thing is pointless and they'll be deleted.
  • 05-11-2010, 02:06 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: I wanna breed a lesser but need to purchase it. Need help
    On fauna it looks like he is a little sketchy. I would buy from someone you know and/or trust.

    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...+House+Reptile
  • 05-11-2010, 02:10 PM
    dshem
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    He said they were just born on May 8th, so he wont ship it out to me until it has two feedings. Yah i will ask him for pictures and proof to make sure its not fake. thanks so much. i been gettin mixed reviews about him. some say they liked the purchased from him while others hated it.
  • 05-11-2010, 02:11 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    If you have a couple of hours, take a look at this thread...

    http://www.faunaclassifieds.com/foru...ad.php?t=27053
  • 05-11-2010, 02:11 PM
    dshem
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    Hey Wes,
    Any history on him on fauna? Or personal experience?

    I'm going to stay away from him just because of the red flag prices he threw up. I can't stand market throwers.

    He made prices too high from what you saw on fauna?
  • 05-11-2010, 02:18 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dshem View Post
    He made prices too high from what you saw on fauna?

    Too low, from what I saw on Fauna.
  • 05-11-2010, 02:19 PM
    wilomn
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    Hey Wes,
    Any history on him on fauna? Or personal experience?

    I'm going to stay away from him just because of the red flag prices he threw up. I can't stand market throwers.

    The guy is just a turd. He's had various partners who knew snakes but none, that I know of, that lasted more than a season or two.

    I have nothing to say about his animals other than I seriously doubt he had anything to do with their production other than funding it.

    He's just a scumbag, plain and simple. I wouldn't buy anything from him, I wouldn't take it if he were giving it away just because I don't want to support the kind of scum he is.
  • 05-11-2010, 03:05 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    Hey Wes,
    Any history on him on fauna? Or personal experience?

    I'm going to stay away from him just because of the red flag prices he threw up. I can't stand market throwers.

    If you look up Morph King Reptiles you will get the whole story about this scumbag ;).I would steer clear of him
  • 05-11-2010, 05:00 PM
    Royal Morphz
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Think of this Scenario you want to get in on a high end new morph and you bought say a Mojo when they were 6500 apiece for babies (and they were that price not to long ago). If you bought one from a breeder and before you were able to raise yours up and breed it yourself the breeder you bought from was selling them for 2700. That is the type of seller Joe Capone is. Just so you know you are getting a deal but do you really want to give your money to someone that single handedly crashed the market on quite a few morphs.
  • 05-11-2010, 05:51 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Royal Morphz View Post
    Think of this Scenario you want to get in on a high end new morph and you bought say a Mojo when they were 6500 apiece for babies (and they were that price not to long ago). If you bought one from a breeder and before you were able to raise yours up and breed it yourself the breeder you bought from was selling them for 2700. That is the type of seller Joe Capone is. Just so you know you are getting a deal but do you really want to give your money to someone that single handedly crashed the market on quite a few morphs.

    He is also a lier because he sold reptiles he said he produced but did not.
  • 05-11-2010, 06:09 PM
    mr. s
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Royal Morphz View Post
    Think of this Scenario you want to get in on a high end new morph and you bought say a Mojo when they were 6500 apiece for babies (and they were that price not to long ago). If you bought one from a breeder and before you were able to raise yours up and breed it yourself the breeder you bought from was selling them for 2700. That is the type of seller Joe Capone is. Just so you know you are getting a deal but do you really want to give your money to someone that single handedly crashed the market on quite a few morphs.

    I do not know him, and don't live in the same country so I probably never will, but the guy can choose his own prices. As a member of the economy, he makes his own decisions on selling price and I support that. I support his ability to do what he believes is best for himself, whether he is right or not. The market economy only works because people can make their own decision. Other breeders might not like it and actually be quite upset, but I would say it's just a risk in such a market.

    However, I do not support a seller, (or anyone at all), who lies or does not properly care for their animals.
  • 05-11-2010, 06:35 PM
    BPHERP
    Re: I wanna breed a lesser but need to purchase it. Need help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Drew87 View Post
    I believe Fauna has a place to look up feed back on people something like that, yes request pics call him ask questions etc. Best of luck and paypal is a very good way to pay.

    Hi Drew. Hows it going.
  • 05-11-2010, 11:24 PM
    boafa
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Ol' Joe's resurfaced huh......what a piece of work.....
  • 05-12-2010, 08:18 PM
    catawhat75
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Damn, I had really hoped this is one bad guy who had gone away.
  • 05-12-2010, 09:16 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    What's sad is that there will always be people that will buy snakes from people like Joe because the only thing they see is the price. Some will get ripped off, and I'm sure others will get a cheap snake thinking that they got a great deal. Unfortunately, it's at the cost of many...
  • 05-12-2010, 11:57 PM
    dshem
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Does he sell poor quality snakes? Or he sells snakes cheap to beat out his competitors?
  • 05-13-2010, 12:20 AM
    wilomn
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dshem View Post
    Does he sell poor quality snakes? Or he sells snakes cheap to beat out his competitors?

    It's not about his prices as much as it is that he personally is slime.

    The market is the market and if you can flood it and make money, more power to you. I've got nothing against him for that.

    BUT, since I can choose not to do business with people who are scumbags, I will do that. I would that you as well would do that, but if you don't, you won't be the first or last.
  • 05-13-2010, 11:31 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mr. s View Post
    I do not know him, and don't live in the same country so I probably never will, but the guy can choose his own prices. As a member of the economy, he makes his own decisions on selling price and I support that. I support his ability to do what he believes is best for himself, whether he is right or not. The market economy only works because people can make their own decision. Other breeders might not like it and actually be quite upset, but I would say it's just a risk in such a market.

    However, I do not support a seller, (or anyone at all), who lies or does not properly care for their animals.

    If you know Joey's history - he made his decision to market crash to intentionally hurt other specific breeders - a targeted attack - he admitted it himself. It wasn't a business decision, it was a scumbag decision. And in the process, he ruined the reputation of his partner at the time (guilt by association) - who is quietly trying to re-build his reputation in the industry. It was like watching a trainwreck at the time.

    I reserve the term scumbag for a very few, but Joey Capone has definitely earned that designation.

    You couldn't PAY me to take an animal from him - I don't care how nice it looks. I will not support a scumbag.
  • 05-13-2010, 12:27 PM
    twh
    Re: I wanna breed a lesser but need to purchase it. Need help
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by bsash View Post
    Well, Paypal is pretty safe in general to pay with.

    not with live animal shipments,check there policy.
  • 05-13-2010, 01:59 PM
    SERPENT_MASTERS
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dshem View Post
    I saw an ad on fauna classifed of Joseph Capone selling lessers and mojaves for a good deal. He wanted me to pay at paypal. Im not sure if this is a scam or if hes a legit seller. Does anyone know? How can i make sure that he is selling me the correct snake? Do i ask for pictures or other stuff to make sure its legit?

    from the research i gather up on Mr capone i would consider the quote " you pay for what you get" so far i hear he is scum who has no respect for the ball python market. he single handly tried to crash the market ON PURPOSE. i hear he is a snake hustler lol! never did any business with him so i cant speak personally on him. MR capone is about getting his money if "LERD" is selling a morph for 1000 he will sell his for 587.12 from what i hear. he does what small time breeders do to make a profit is he wrong? not for me to say but the lying part on he produce the animals when he brought them from someone else MANY Breeders buy whoRESALE DO YOU REALLY THINK A BIG BREEDERS IS GOING TO TELL YOU I BROUGHT WHORESALE PIED BALLS FROM BILLY FROM DUNNELLON FLORIDA? I DOUBT IT. is it wrong? you have to determine that one. like anything in life you buy at your own risk. but i rather buy from a BREEDER WHO HAS A GOOD NAME. I heard Ian G from outback reptiles was a bad guy. I brought from him many times and i have no complaints. i woulkd take in consideration the people in forum who dealt with capone, send them private messages and really get a take on MR capone. sorry about punctuation IM AT WORK LOL! but i chime in anyway.
  • 05-13-2010, 03:01 PM
    Blue Apple Herps
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dshem View Post
    Does he sell poor quality snakes? Or he sells snakes cheap to beat out his competitors?

    From what I've read there's never been an issue with the snakes themselves.

    But if you read through the threads at fauna, he single handedly tried to crash the ball python market for personal vengeance. He is a scum bag. Period. Only in it for all of the wrong reasons.

    Sure you can get some nice snakes for cheap, but by doing so you're just supporting sleaze. I'd rather pay more money knowing its going to a good person or business who cares about the animals and the hobby.
  • 05-14-2010, 03:51 PM
    djansen
    Re: Joseph Capone Power house reptile is he legit or scam?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xdeus View Post
    Joe Capone is the used car dealer of Balls... literally. ;)

    I purchased from him when I first started out and that was the first thing I said to myself after I talked to him on the phone. then the mafia came to mind hah.
    that said, I had no complaints and it went very well. animals were healthy too.

    would I buy from him again knowing what I know now? no, but in all fairness it went smooth.

    He is the reason people getting into the hobby should do the research before they buy.
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