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NEW BPs... And Stowaway

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  • 05-08-2010, 02:56 PM
    cschneider
    NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    So i pick up 2 new BPs at the columbus show today. i'm so excited i finally got my bumble bee, and they threw in a pastel for pretty much free. I also had a supprise when i got home. I opened the bag and out jumped this lizard! I have no idea what it is and i have no interest in keeping a lizard. I would take it back but the show was a 2 hour drive. I was thinking of taking it up to a pet store to see if they want it. Does anyone know what this is...

    Bumble Bee
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9/dscn0640.jpg

    Pastel
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9/dscn0641.jpg

    What is this guy???
    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9/dscn0643.jpg

    https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...9/dscn0642.jpg

    If anyone knows what this lizard is, please let me know. Also i will try to get better pics of the BPs up soon when they aren't so stressed from the car ride home. I feel like it's christmas!
  • 05-08-2010, 03:01 PM
    Gavin Cooper
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    It's a Frilled Dragon.


    Gavin
  • 05-08-2010, 03:06 PM
    bsash
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Nice ball pythons, and, yes, that is a frilled dragon.
  • 05-08-2010, 03:10 PM
    Gavin Cooper
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Just so you know the Frilled Dragon is worth about $150-$200 CDN.
    I would try to trade it to the petstore for credit on feeders or reptiles suplies.

    Gavin
  • 05-08-2010, 03:16 PM
    GoingPostal
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    That's hilarious! I'd probably jumped halfway across the room if something jumped out at me. Nice pickups though, how much does the bee weigh?
  • 05-08-2010, 03:18 PM
    jzoot3d
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    nice new snakes and the lizard looks badass! keep it!
  • 05-08-2010, 03:21 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Nice looking snakes. You might not have planned on a lizard, but it looks like that little dragon picked you... :rofl:
  • 05-08-2010, 03:36 PM
    bsash
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    You should try and find it a good home, I'm not sure what your pet stores are like, but it might die. Maybe try putting it on here in the classified section?
  • 05-08-2010, 03:39 PM
    het.pied
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    i'd say keep it. you might not want it now, but that thing looks like it would be a bad little pet :)
  • 05-08-2010, 03:49 PM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    I don't really want a lizard but my husband is falling for him lol. I think we need to do some major research on these guys. I also picked up a snake rack at the show so the dragon is in my old snake tank. I have a heat lamp and heat pad on that tank so i think he will be ok for now. We are going to run to the pet store to get some stuff for him. I called the pet store and they said they would take him, but wouldn't give me any money or credit for him because they don't know if it's healthy or not. Maybe it was meant to be... I have my snakes and now my husband has a dragon lol.

    I don't have a scale, but i'm guessing the bee is about a year old. He is 2 times the thickness of the pastel and the pastel might be 4 months. I'm not good in guessing grams though. I will probably get a scale soon.

    So does anyone here have a frilled dragon? Are they difficult to care for compared to BPs?

    I'm so excited about my new BPs. i just can't get over it!
  • 05-08-2010, 04:21 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
  • 05-08-2010, 05:24 PM
    akaangela
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Nice balls. I would call the person you got the bp's from and ask if the dragon belongs to them. I would feel guilty about keeping something I didn't pay for, especially since they gave you a good deal on your pastel and you got such beautiful bee's. I have NO idea how expensive frilled dragons are but if they do go for over $100 I would bet the breeder (if it is his) would be willing to come and get it (or at least I would ).

    What ever you decide good luck.
  • 05-08-2010, 05:28 PM
    jjmitchell
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Glad you decided to keem em... cute little thing... I bet you end up enjoying him alot...
  • 05-08-2010, 05:31 PM
    mommanessy247
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    ROFL me & my daughter got a huge kick out of watching that video. amazing how it ran on 2 legs! oh sorry the snakes are awesome looking too!
  • 05-08-2010, 05:56 PM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    That video was awesome!

    Thanks for all of the feedback. I am planning on calling the breeder because i feel a little bad. It seems like most babies go for anywhere from $120 to $160. I don't know if they would want to drive 2 hours for that, but we will see...
  • 05-08-2010, 05:59 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Oh you went to the Columbus show today? I didnt get to bed until 4am. and tried to be up @ 8 to be there @ 9. Well i didnt wake up. Woke up around 1 and figured it was to late :(

    Had like 6 txt wondering where i was at lol because i normally meet people up there. But nice pick up wish i could have gone :mad:

    BTW what breeder did u get it from? BA Reptiles has some nicce bp's
  • 05-08-2010, 06:10 PM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Oh you went to the Columbus show today? I didnt get to bed until 4am. and tried to be up @ 8 to be there @ 9. Well i didnt wake up. Woke up around 1 and figured it was to late :(

    Had like 6 txt wondering where i was at lol because i normally meet people up there. But nice pick up wish i could have gone :mad:

    BTW what breeder did u get it from? BA Reptiles has some nicce bp's

    I can't remember the guys name, but the receipt says pets plus. I thought i saw another name on their tshirts but I had tunnel vision when i saw my bee lol. They had the biggest selection of balls and biggest booth. They had a lot of very nice and healthy looking snakes. If I had the money, I would have gotten 5 more from this guy. They had some awesome killer bees. I almost got a pewter but it hadn't eaten yet and I was just a little nervous about spending $800 on a "fragile" bp. They had pretty much everything except pieds and het pieds. It was a decent show though. Too bad you missed it.
  • 05-08-2010, 06:12 PM
    DJ_Bizarre
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    That is pretty funny that you got a little lizard, the thing that confuses me is how could he have gotten in that bag unless they put him in there to try and just get rid of it or something. How could he just sneak away from his tank or enclosure or sneak on a trip with them in a bag. Either way it is pretty funny and good luck to taking care of it (or bringing it to a petstore, so good luck to whatever you choose to do).
  • 05-08-2010, 06:14 PM
    wolfy-hound
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    I wonder if someone else got home with an empty bag? LOL. Good for you to call the seller, that's a good honest person for you! He's cute and those are nice looking balls too.
  • 05-08-2010, 06:21 PM
    Quiet Tempest
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Frilled lizards are nice in their own right and fairly valuable, too. They're on Kingsnake.com's classifieds in the $100-$150 range. I wonder how he managed to wind up in the bag??

    Gorgeous bee and pastel. Congrats on the pick ups! :)
  • 05-08-2010, 07:15 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cschneider View Post
    I can't remember the guys name, but the receipt says pets plus. I thought i saw another name on their tshirts but I had tunnel vision when i saw my bee lol. They had the biggest selection of balls and biggest booth. They had a lot of very nice and healthy looking snakes. If I had the money, I would have gotten 5 more from this guy. They had some awesome killer bees. I almost got a pewter but it hadn't eaten yet and I was just a little nervous about spending $800 on a "fragile" bp. They had pretty much everything except pieds and het pieds. It was a decent show though. Too bad you missed it.

    Yea i no i woke up with a bunch of text asking where i was at lol!

    You into boas?
  • 05-08-2010, 07:42 PM
    CeLLLLL
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    nice pickups and that's a pretty cool lizard
  • 05-08-2010, 07:55 PM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    I tried calling the breeder and no luck. I will try again tomorrow. The first thing i thought of was, maybe someone else they were checking out bought it, then they accidentally put my bps in their bag. I hope nobody else was disappointed. I also thought, maybe they had a bunch of them they couldn't get rid of so they just threw it in... I had a 2 hour car ride home. The little guy must have been pretty worried in that bag with 2 big snakes lol.
  • 05-08-2010, 07:57 PM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by f4n70m View Post
    Yea i no i woke up with a bunch of text asking where i was at lol!

    You into boas?

    Not yet lol. I saw some cool ones at the show, but i don't know if i want a snake that will get that big. I'm addicted to BPs.
  • 05-08-2010, 08:22 PM
    Vypyrz
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Was the vendor that you got the snakes from even selling lizards? I am wondering if he didn't escape a near-by table and was hiding out in the bag... :confuzd:
  • 05-08-2010, 08:26 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cschneider View Post
    Not yet lol. I saw some cool ones at the show, but i don't know if i want a snake that will get that big. I'm addicted to BPs.

    If you go check out Jon Rice Reptiles :gj:

    Not to well known but has some quality animals for sure.
  • 05-08-2010, 08:37 PM
    Paysons Bps
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Very nice pastel and bumble bee, bumble bees are my absolute favorite morph. It's a frilled dragon keep it they are very entertaining when they are mad haha =D good luck

    -Payson
  • 05-08-2010, 08:41 PM
    mr. s
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Nothing that good happens to me! That is great. I'd love to see more pictures of that frilled dragon!
  • 05-08-2010, 10:15 PM
    big d
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    seriously, a free frilled!?

    did you mention to the pet store that you "found" it when you got home.
    thats prolly why they didn't offer you anything since they new you got it free.

    seriously keep it. they are so sick when full grown. care isn't very hard either.
  • 05-08-2010, 10:33 PM
    Greez1986
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Very nice pick ups :D

    After seeing that video I want one of those lizards :D
  • 05-08-2010, 10:37 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Hey cschneider if you dont want it ill be more then glad to take it :)
  • 05-08-2010, 10:58 PM
    BuckeyeBalls
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Random post here?
  • 05-09-2010, 06:13 AM
    mommanessy247
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    the pic of that lizard is cute but the lizard is very skinny. thats been on my mind all night. it may just be that its a wee thing & thats just how it is but i had to inquire otherwise it would've been on my mind all day today...cant have that.
  • 05-09-2010, 11:06 AM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Vypyrz View Post
    Was the vendor that you got the snakes from even selling lizards? I am wondering if he didn't escape a near-by table and was hiding out in the bag... :confuzd:

    i don't think they were, at least i didn't see any at that table.
  • 05-09-2010, 11:11 AM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mommanessy247 View Post
    the pic of that lizard is cute but the lizard is very skinny. thats been on my mind all night. it may just be that its a wee thing & thats just how it is but i had to inquire otherwise it would've been on my mind all day today...cant have that.

    He is definitely a baby. From head to tail, he is about 5" long. We got some crickets for him yesterday, but I haven't seen him eat yet. I hope the little guy does ok.
  • 05-09-2010, 12:15 PM
    journeyoftheanimals
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Great snakes and even better lizard. Can't wait to see if there is any other story that goes with it.
  • 05-09-2010, 12:24 PM
    journeyoftheanimals
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    My fiance wanted me to say "finders keepers"
  • 05-09-2010, 12:33 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Oh.MY.GOD LOL, thats funny! Nice pick ups, and keep the lizard if you can, it says something when a lizzard picks you :P

    Heres my guess

    Ive been to alot of shows, and from what I see 90% of the Venders keep reptiles in bags that they cannot fit onto the table,under or behind the table, so my guess could be that the vender accidently decided to use a bag that had something already in it? That or he truely is just a stowaway and hitched a ride in that bag and didnt get caught.
  • 05-09-2010, 12:43 PM
    JLC
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cschneider View Post
    The first thing i thought of was, maybe someone else they were checking out bought it, then they accidentally put my bps in their bag. I hope nobody else was disappointed. I also thought, maybe they had a bunch of them they couldn't get rid of so they just threw it in... I had a 2 hour car ride home. The little guy must have been pretty worried in that bag with 2 big snakes lol.

    I don't think either of these scenarios is likely. I've never heard of a lizard being put in a snake bag for transport...they usually go in little plastic cups with lids. I can't imagine that any reasonable businessman would intentionally put a baby lizard into a bag...much less a bag with snakes in it. I'm very glad he wasn't hurt in the journey!

    Seems most likely to me that he escaped from some other table and was hiding in that bag that your snakes got put into. Beautiful snakes, btw! :D And frilled dragons are awesome creatures...I'm glad you're deciding to keep it...I hope we can see pics of it as it grows!
  • 05-09-2010, 12:51 PM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Ok it's official. We're keeping the little guy. My husband named him Stewy, and now i have to figure out how to build a 4 foot high enclosure and regulate temp and humidity lol. Sounds like this could be tricky. I've been reading up on these guys for hours and they are pretty interesting. Also, I saw him eat 4 crickets this morning! Hopefully he will start to put on some weight soon. I have read that these guys eat like pigs compared to BPs. This will definitely be a new learning experience but we're excited!
  • 05-09-2010, 12:52 PM
    cschneider
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    I don't think either of these scenarios is likely. I've never heard of a lizard being put in a snake bag for transport...they usually go in little plastic cups with lids. I can't imagine that any reasonable businessman would intentionally put a baby lizard into a bag...much less a bag with snakes in it. I'm very glad he wasn't hurt in the journey!

    Seems most likely to me that he escaped from some other table and was hiding in that bag that your snakes got put into. Beautiful snakes, btw! :D And frilled dragons are awesome creatures...I'm glad you're deciding to keep it...I hope we can see pics of it as it grows!

    I will post pics for sure when he gets bigger. I read these guys get, on average, 30" long. Wow, I can't wait!
  • 05-09-2010, 12:54 PM
    Beardedragon
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by JLC View Post
    I don't think either of these scenarios is likely. I've never heard of a lizard being put in a snake bag for transport...they usually go in little plastic cups with lids.!

    Ive had a few beardies shipped to me in bags ;) Granted never one that small, your right about it should being in a Deli Cup but its easier to transport them to a show in bags...
  • 05-09-2010, 01:04 PM
    sheffernan13
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    A four foot high enclosure for a baby frilled is a little too big for him at his size and age. You may want to try to start with something smaller like a 2 foot first. They tend to be semi-arboreal and really enjoy basking. It is very important to get him under a UV A and a UV B light, we use the mercury vapor bulbs on our own frilly's. They enjoy a diet of crickets and worms but we do not reccommend beginning to feed the worms til he is around a year, because they are hard to digest. Get him a nice branch to climb on and he will be the happiest dragon in the world.

    Nice pick up......
  • 05-11-2010, 09:51 AM
    catawhat75
    Re: NEW BPs... And Stowaway
    By chance were the sellers the ones on the far left towards the back when you walk in the door?
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