Sleep Dep. Question...

Ok, I'm trying to fall asleep...but can't, so I figured I'd ask a somewhat de ta dee question...

I'm wondering, when breeding BPs does it matter the sex of the morph when bred to a "normal"?....What I mean is....

"Normal" Male
X
Spider Female

I'm pretty Positive it'd be the same outcome if the morph was the Male...

I need sleep...:banana::banana:

the way i look at it is, if the morph is the female and the male is the normal when you breed and if you hit the odds and get the morph male you can breed him back to the female morph alot sooner. hope that helps.

im manic depressive so i often have sleep trouble. i will probly enjoy watching my bp move around at night, when i get it, if it does. who knows maybe i'll pop on here for a visit with the nocturnal bp.net members.

DNA Genes come in pairs. Each animal brings one side to the genetic equation. Put together you get the pair of genes for each trait to make a new animal. So, no it doesn't matter which is the male.

There are rumors, whispers in hushed and reverent tones of a morph that the male only produces female's of the morph and Female's only throw male's. It's still in the testing phase to be 100% sure but when I spoke with the breeder a few weeks ago they we're pretty sure that after years of breeding they can say for sure that the morph is sex related.

Just some food for thought.

as far as producing a morph, it does not matter which is the morph and which is the norm.
however if time is an issue for you, jben makes a good point.
when it comes to recessive and co-dominant morphs it best to have a female morph. it will take less time to raise its offspring to breed back to it.
now if it's a dominant morph, i don't see it mattering seeing as there is no super form.
john

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

There are rumors, whispers in hushed and reverent tones of a morph that the male only produces female's of the morph and Female's only throw male's. It's still in the testing phase to be 100% sure but when I spoke with the breeder a few weeks ago they we're pretty sure that after years of breeding they can say for sure that the morph is sex related.

Just some food for thought.

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Is this A morph or a more than one?

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Originally Posted by Beardedragon

Is this A morph or a more than one?

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Singular..

Cool, thanks guys. Yeah thats interesting as far as Females throwing Males and vice vesa...Hmmm...

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

There are rumors, whispers in hushed and reverent tones of a morph that the male only produces female's of the morph and Female's only throw male's. It's still in the testing phase to be 100% sure but when I spoke with the breeder a few weeks ago they we're pretty sure that after years of breeding they can say for sure that the morph is sex related.

Just some food for thought.

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That is very interesting to me. I have been studying on morphs and genetics for BP's, and discovered there is a striking similarity to the genetics of the cockatiels I used to breed. There are several sex-related colors in cockatiels, in which a male who carries a certain color produces female babies of said color, but not males. It would be amazing if they discovered something similar in ball pythons.

Gale

I'm gonna have to try that out with one of my first breedings....Pastel Female to a normal Male to see the outcome of the sexes.....I want to make Supers also, I know easiest is to pair Pastel to Pastel, which I'll do also. I also want to make Bumblebees, and killerbees, so the Spider x Pastel/super gene is where I want to start working. I also want to mess with the Albino and pied genes, I want to do het to het breedings so I can get a bigger satisfaction on seeing a yellow/white head popping out of an egg , or a pied. I thinks it's to easy to get an albino and pair it with a het, I want to enjoy it...Maybe ONE DAY I can work my way up to albino Pieds or Spider Pieds, EVEN BETTER,(has it been done)..Killerbee/Bumblebee Pieds?..LOL....ONE DAY, many many moons from now..lol.

Thanks everyone.
-Wildman

I love this site, alot of helpfull people here.

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Originally Posted by Wildman09

I'm gonna have to try that out with one of my first breedings....Pastel Female to a normal Male to see the outcome of the sexes.....I want to make Supers also, I know easiest is to pair Pastel to Pastel, which I'll do also. I also want to make Bumblebees, and killerbees, so the Spider x Pastel/super gene is where I want to start working. I also want to mess with the Albino and pied genes, I want to do het to het breedings so I can get a bigger satisfaction on seeing a yellow/white head popping out of an egg , or a pied. I thinks it's to easy to get an albino and pair it with a het, I want to enjoy it...Maybe ONE DAY I can work my way up to albino Pieds or Spider Pieds, EVEN BETTER,(has it been done)..Killerbee/Bumblebee Pieds?..LOL....ONE DAY, many many moons from now..lol.

Thanks everyone.
-Wildman

I love this site, alot of helpfull people here.

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I love the albino spider!

Killerbee PIED!!!!...I didnt think they were produced yet, they look pretty damn nice!!
http://www.captivebredreptileforums....ds-anyone.html

Scroll down more and see the BumbleBee Pieds....They look like they are doing just like the spider pieds are doing. All white body Spider head.....Spider genes are weird...

I guess I gotta figure out a new cool morph to make, LOL>...Ritteee...

Yeah, the Albino Spider is WICKED!!!!!!...I think I might be interested in an Albino Spider project.....
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1157/...27b3d9.jpg?v=0

What about an Albino Spider Pied!?..