Parents and reptiles!

I'm 15 years old, i've been wanting to get a ball python for a little under a year now, i've been saving saving for a while and can almost offerd the ball pyhton I want. Am i the only one in this situation, or are any of you in the same situation? Text a comment, or a video comment below and tell my parents why they should allow ball pythons in the house! Thanks =D

-Payson

I would just show that you are responsible, that you can afford not only the set up, animal, and care, but you also have a fund set aside for vet bills. Show you are responsible around the house too. Take on more chores around the house. Do well in school and don't bother them about it. Asking them every day is not going to change their mind.

In the end, if they say no, they say no and it is best you not try and hide snakes in your bedroom.

Don't let your kid get it. Chances are he won't even take care of it. Hes not even old enough to drive to the store to buy feeders, so that would basically be your responsibility parents. Also, if it gets sick, thats your money to take it to the vet parents. Your kid aint even old enough to have a job to buy feeders, or some type of mite-removal if it gets mites, or take it to the vet if it gets sick.

Hmm why else shouldnt you get one.... chances are a kid your age will get tired of it and start to treat it like crap, and barely ever handle it or clean the tank. Also, a lot more money goes into owning a BP than you can imagine.

I will assume since your only 15 years old and you barely have money, your going to buy a tank and not a professional type rack? Okay well -

Tank $30-$100 depending on what size, what type, what lid you get for it.
Substrate $20-$30 a year
Feeders $2-$3 every 5-7 days
Hides / Water dish / Other parts of enclosure $15-$50
Heat pad $15-$25
Lamp Dimmer or Thermostat $10-$40
Digital Thermometer $10
Normal Ball Python $20-$100

TOTAL STARTUP COST - $120-$350 AT LEAST

Monthly costs for mice - $10-$15

Unexpected costs? - Mite removal, vet visits, meds, upgrading to bigger pray like rats in the future....

Please wait a couple years before you get into this hobby. Unless your a real mature 15 year old than just wait.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Don't let your kid get it. Chances are he won't even take care of it. Hes not even old enough to drive to the store to buy feeders, so that would basically be your responsibility parents. Also, if it gets sick, thats your money to take it to the vet parents. Your kid aint even old enough to have a job to buy feeders, or some type of mite-removal if it gets mites, or take it to the vet if it gets sick.

Hmm why else shouldnt you get one.... chances are a kid your age will get tired of it and start to treat it like crap, and barely ever handle it or clean the tank. Also, a lot more money goes into owning a BP than you can imagine.

I will assume since your only 15 years old and you barely have money, your going to buy a tank and not a professional type rack? Okay well -

Tank $30-$100 depending on what size, what type, what lid you get for it.
Substrate $20-$30 a year
Feeders $2-$3 every 5-7 days
Hides / Water dish / Other parts of enclosure $15-$50
Heat pad $15-$25
Lamp Dimmer or Thermostat $10-$40
Digital Thermometer $10
Normal Ball Python $20-$100

TOTAL STARTUP COST - $120-$350 AT LEAST

Monthly costs for mice - $10-$15

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Your prices are a bit high.

Tank(tub) - $6
Substrate - What free newspaper
Feeders - $25 for 50. Thats 50 feeds. Thats like $25 for 6-8 months of food for one snake
Hides and stuff can be done with $5

I agree with the rest just that stuff seemed a little high :gj:

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Originally Posted by f4n70m

Your prices are a bit high.

Tank(tub) - $6
Substrate - What free newspaper
Feeders - $25 for 50. Thats 50 feeds. Thats like $25 for 6-8 months of food for one snake
Hides and stuff can be done with $5

I agree with the rest just that stuff seemed a little high :gj:

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Yeah true. I figured that he'd use a tank instead of a tub, but yeah tubs are cheap as dirt. Also, I wasn't sure if he would feed live or FT. Hides are very cheap yes but also maybe he wanted some decor or fake plants or a nice rock water dish? IDK. But yeah some of my prices were a little off depending on what he chooses.

Either way, I say his parents don't let him. Wait till hes a little older. He's only 15 and who knows whats going to come up. Within 1 year he can completely become a different person. I know I changed a lot from the age of 15 to 16. You might get a job and work a lot and not have time, or you might just lose interest.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Don't let your kid get it. Chances are he won't even take care of it. Hes not even old enough to drive to the store to buy feeders, so that would basically be your responsibility parents. Also, if it gets sick, thats your money to take it to the vet parents. Your kid aint even old enough to have a job to buy feeders, or some type of mite-removal if it gets mites, or take it to the vet if it gets sick.

Hmm why else shouldnt you get one.... chances are a kid your age will get tired of it and start to treat it like crap, and barely ever handle it or clean the tank. Also, a lot more money goes into owning a BP than you can imagine.

I will assume since your only 15 years old and you barely have money, your going to buy a tank and not a professional type rack? Okay well -

Tank $30-$100 depending on what size, what type, what lid you get for it.
Substrate $20-$30 a year
Feeders $2-$3 every 5-7 days
Hides / Water dish / Other parts of enclosure $15-$50
Heat pad $15-$25
Lamp Dimmer or Thermostat $10-$40
Digital Thermometer $10
Normal Ball Python $20-$100

TOTAL STARTUP COST - $120-$350 AT LEAST

Monthly costs for mice - $10-$15

Unexpected costs? - Mite removal, vet visits, meds, upgrading to bigger pray like rats in the future....

Please wait a couple years before you get into this hobby. Unless your a real mature 15 year old than just wait.

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Wow, really? you dont think a 15 year old is capable of properly paying for and taking care of a single ball python?
At 15 I was taking care of multiple reptiles with no problems and I know lots of 15 year olds that can handle the responsibility. and at 15 you can make enough money to pay for your pet, and a basic setup will not be that much and heck parents may even chip in.
the care of a ball python is not that difficult.

When I was 15 I was taking care of multiple reptiles also. Handling tarantulas, scorpions, snakes. Had a few turtles, frogs. I took great care of my stuff. But the big point I was trying to make was also that so much changes between the ages of 15 and 16.

When your 15 you cant work, when your 16 you can. You can mow lawns or whatever but you cant legally have a real job. Also, maybe he will want to start playing high school sports? Playing high school football takes 90% of your free time.... No lie. What else, maybe he will get a girlfriend, and become whipped? And lose interest in snakes and start to dig pie? Heck IDK but anything can happen between 15 and 16. It's a big deal to care for a snake that may live up to 30 years when your only 15.

djansen, Thank you so much for that post, I spend alot of my time at a local reptile store and talk to ball python breeders I am extreamly educated on ball pythons, I almost have enough money for everything I need
- Three shelf high cb-70 rack system = 240$
- 41 qt sterilite tub with trio of African soft fur rats, substrate, and food. = 50$
- Bumble bee ball python = 500-600$
- Thermostat = 120 $
- Temp gun, hummidity and temp gage = 35$
- Paper towel substrate 5$
- Feeding tongs = 15$
- Hide = 15$

-Payson!

How about taking a trip to the Dollar Store and buy some plastic bowls (not see through) so you'll have two identical, tight fitting hides:D

You can also buy small dog/cat dishes at the Dollar Store, I use small cat dishes for my snakes, and a dog dish for my largest Ball and my Dumeril's.

I dont wanna drag any1 into this but CoolioTiffany is what 14? She has multipal snakes and i think she does a very good job of taking care of em :gj:

Shes pointed me in a good direction many of times now

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

When your 15 you cant work, when your 16 you can. You can mow lawns or whatever but you cant legally have a real job.

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Wrong krogers hires 14 yr olds.

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

How about taking a trip to the Dollar Store and buy some plastic bowls (not see through) so you'll have two identical, tight fitting hides:D

You can also buy small dog/cat dishes at the Dollar Store, I use small cat dishes for my snakes, and a dog dish for my largest Ball and my Dumeril's.

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oh what the heck! I just posted and u posted before me, Sorry to bring u into it even tho u seemed to bring urself into it before i could :O

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

When I was 15 I was taking care of multiple reptiles also. Handling tarantulas, scorpions, snakes. Had a few turtles, frogs. I took great care of my stuff. But the big point I was trying to make was also that so much changes between the ages of 15 and 16.

When your 15 you cant work, when your 16 you can. You can mow lawns or whatever but you cant legally have a real job. Also, maybe he will want to start playing high school sports? Playing high school football takes 90% of your free time.... No lie. What else, maybe he will get a girlfriend, and become whipped? And lose interest in snakes and start to dig pie? Heck IDK but anything can happen between 15 and 16. It's a big deal to care for a snake that may live up to 30 years when your only 15.

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A ball python is like the most low maintenance pet you can have, the time spent caring for 1 bp would not be much at all and I played highschool sports as well. You could say this about any age, if he is responsible then I say go for it. you said yourself you had multiple reptiles at his age.

I know 15 yr olds that are more grown up and responsible than some people two or three times that age. Dont let "some people" here discourage you. If you can get your parents to let you have one, then by all means go for it :)

I will agree tho most 15 yr olds would not provide the proper care for it. But that does not mean there isnt any that wouldnt

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

djansen, Thank you so much for that post, I spend alot of my time at a local reptile store and talk to ball python breeders I am extreamly educated on ball pythons, I almost have enough money for everything I need
- Three shelf high cb-70 rack system = 240$
- 41 qt sterilite tub with trio of African soft fur rats, substrate, and food. = 50$
- Bumble bee ball python = 500-600$
- Thermostat = 120 $
- Temp gun, hummidity and temp gage = 35$
- Paper towel substrate 5$
- Feeding tongs = 15$
- Hide = 15$

-Payson!

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Dang! sounds like you know what your doing.:gj: I was thinking super basic beginner here but sounds like you did your homework. If you have any questions this is the place to ask. good luck!

If anybody took the time to actually read my first post I said "dont let him get it unless hes a very mature 15 year old". Like I said I owned multiple reptiles when I was 15 but honestly tons of kid my age at that time couldn't have even kept themselves alive if they were left alone for 3 days.

Just make a smart choice dude, don't rush into it. That's all I wanted.

I have no doubt that there are many 15 year olds (and younger) than can properly care for a ball python or even several. And the OP seems to have a good idea of what they need for their ball python but when it comes down to it, it doesn't matter how ready YOU are. If you parents are not ready for the responsibility (and trust me, it will be partly their responsibility too. It is living under their roof, sudden vet bills, electricity, etc), then the answer will be no and you should respect their decision.

I've had snakes and frogs for as long as I can remember, long before I was fifteen. It can definitely be done,you just have to understand the responsibility that goes along with caring for something that is utterly dependent on you.

Here's my advice: Wait. Not long, just a couple months. In that time, do everything you can to learn about these animals, and show your parents that you are ready to handle the responsibility. If they are still against it, find a store or a breeder near you and show them what an adult is like. During this time, also think really hard on your decision. Be open with your parents and let them know that there can and will be unexpected costs, and make sure they are willing to help you out. Since you still live with your parents, and don't drive, some of the responsibility will be theirs as well, so make sure they are okay with this before jumping in.

Good luck! :)


Edit: I think the fact that you're on here asking questions and showing interest is at least some credit to your responsibility. Just remember, you can never stop learning new things about these animals!

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

If anybody took the time to actually read my first post I said "dont let him get it unless hes a very mature 15 year old". Like I said I owned multiple reptiles when I was 15 but honestly tons of kid my age at that time couldn't have even kept themselves alive if they were left alone for 3 days.

Just make a smart choice dude, don't rush into it. That's all I wanted.

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I understand PurplePython's point of view. Rushing into in is never a good idea (especially if it's against your parents' will), and yes, there are a lot of youngsters who won't bother to do the research.

However, I believe the fact that he came online, found this site, and even bothered to post something, shows enough incentive to want to be a good ball python owner. I say go for it, kid. :gj: (Provided you've researched and gotten permission!)

Yeah if mom and pop say no then that is the answer, and you have to respect them...Good Luck:D

Damn man, do you really want to spend 600 bucks on a snake at your age. Most dogs don't cost that much. I know some older owners spend that much on snakes as pets but they have money to do that.
Personally once I turned 16 I was NEVER home. I put all my money into my car at that age (and still do haha). I would think at your age to just stick with a less expensive morph and build a rack yourself. Put some money toward a car. Trust me once you get freedom your gonna love it.
Just some stuff you might want to think about.

I can't imagine wanting to commit to snakes at your age dude.

When I was 15 I was sneaking out and dr....



Praying....I snuck out to pray at church all night and pass out in my back yard....from prayer.


Seriously if this is something you want just keep showing them your a responsible dude. If you don't have a job consider one.


Show them this site if they have questions. Good luck whatever you decide.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Don't let your kid get it. Chances are he won't even take care of it. Hes not even old enough to drive to the store to buy feeders, so that would basically be your responsibility parents. Also, if it gets sick, thats your money to take it to the vet parents. Your kid aint even old enough to have a job to buy feeders, or some type of mite-removal if it gets mites, or take it to the vet if it gets sick.

Hmm why else shouldnt you get one.... chances are a kid your age will get tired of it and start to treat it like crap, and barely ever handle it or clean the tank. Also, a lot more money goes into owning a BP than you can imagine.

I will assume since your only 15 years old and you barely have money, your going to buy a tank and not a professional type rack? Okay well -

Tank $30-$100 depending on what size, what type, what lid you get for it.
Substrate $20-$30 a year
Feeders $2-$3 every 5-7 days
Hides / Water dish / Other parts of enclosure $15-$50
Heat pad $15-$25
Lamp Dimmer or Thermostat $10-$40
Digital Thermometer $10
Normal Ball Python $20-$100

TOTAL STARTUP COST - $120-$350 AT LEAST

Monthly costs for mice - $10-$15

Unexpected costs? - Mite removal, vet visits, meds, upgrading to bigger pray like rats in the future....

Please wait a couple years before you get into this hobby. Unless your a real mature 15 year old than just wait.

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Pffff!!! It honestly sounds like a 15 year old wrote this comment.


I think owning a pet at that age is a great way to show responsibility and learn about taking care of living things. Maybe you should skip having hobbies and learning life lessons and just go right onto having kids like tons of other teenagers. Children will be better to practice on.

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

I'm 15 years old, i've been wanting to get a ball python for a little under a year now, i've been saving saving for a while and can almost offerd the ball pyhton I want. Am i the only one in this situation, or are any of you in the same situation? Text a comment, or a video comment below and tell my parents why they should allow ball pythons in the house! Thanks =D

-Payson

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okay i first got a bearded dragon my mom was against then she fell in love with him and plays with him every day haha


now my mom has a HUGE HUGE HUGE!! fear of snakes so when i said i wanted a baby corn snake she was really upset until she saw it then again she said awe its not so bad JUST DONT LET IT ESCAPE!! haha



finally when i wanted a ball python she said if you get it i can't come into your room ever....well i went online with her showed her how gentle they really are and why they are called ball pythons showed her the kind i wanted (pastel) and after about 2 weeks she came around and said well it is very pretty only a few months later i got her petting it haha so if she can come around im sure anyone can. just tell your parents you aren't a kid and you want to prove it to them by being a responsible pet owner explain to them that one of the last things a BP wants to do is bite you all they do is sleep and eat haha



good luck and let us know how it goes!!

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Originally Posted by nicktreb

Pffff!!! It honestly sounds like a 15 year old wrote this comment.


I think owning a pet at that age is a great way to show responsibility and learn about taking care of living things. Maybe you should skip having hobbies and learning life lessons and just go right onto having kids like tons of other teenagers. Children will be better to practice on.

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Whatever dude. I don't think that was the whole point but okay. You sound like a 15 year old for thinking a snake will teach you how to take care of a freggin child in the future.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Whatever dude. I don't think that was the whole point but okay. You sound like a 15 year old for thinking a snake will teach you how to take care of a freggin child in the future.

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i think he means its a sense of responsibility to care for another living thing

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Originally Posted by dembonez

i think he means its a sense of responsibility to care for another living thing

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well i dont see how anything I said makes me seem like I am 15 myself.. so thats why I replied like that.

PurplePython, This community is not about trying to shut every kid down who comes here wanting to buy a snake.

Telling them all the reasons why they SHOULDN'T have a snake isn't really the nicest way to encourage this person to become a responsible adult.

Owning a pet is a GREAT way to learn responsibility. Taking care of another life is a big commitment. The OP has been wanting to get a ball python for nearly a year so this isn't an impulse decision.

In my opinion, if the OP can care for a ball python and be able to pay for its expenses, then why shouldn't he be able to own one?

I know a lot of mature youngsters on this site who are more than capable of taking care of ball pythons :)

Lets give him the benefit of the doubt before we just shoot him down.

I don't think purps meant any offense anybody. I think he was just trying to point out that it does take some work and responsibility which the kid seems to have.

Can't we all just get along :P

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

PurplePython, This community is not about trying to shut every kid down who comes here wanting to buy a snake.

Telling them all the reasons why they SHOULDN'T have a snake isn't really the nicest way to encourage this person to become a responsible adult.

Owning a pet is a GREAT way to learn responsibility. Taking care of another life is a big commitment. The OP has been wanting to get a ball python for nearly a year so this isn't an impulse decision.

In my opinion, if the OP can care for a ball python and be able to pay for its expenses, then why shouldn't he be able to own one?

I know a lot of mature youngsters on this site who are more than capable of taking care of ball pythons :)

Lets give him the benefit of the doubt before we just shoot him down.

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yay you rock!!:gj::gj::partyon::partyon:

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

djansen, Thank you so much for that post, I spend alot of my time at a local reptile store and talk to ball python breeders I am extreamly educated on ball pythons, I almost have enough money for everything I need
- Three shelf high cb-70 rack system = 240$
- 41 qt sterilite tub with trio of African soft fur rats, substrate, and food. = 50$
- Bumble bee ball python = 500-600$
- Thermostat = 120 $
- Temp gun, hummidity and temp gage = 35$
- Paper towel substrate 5$
- Feeding tongs = 15$
- Hide = 15$

-Payson!

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Gah. Why start on ASFs? Normal rats are easy and cheap to come by!

I'm totally confused by your plans here. If you just want one python, you don't need a rack. If you are planning on buying a live trio of ASFs to breed, you don't need tongs.

It sort of sounds like you're wanting to venture into a bigger endeavor than a single snake.

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Originally Posted by Seru1

I don't think purps meant any offense anybody. I think he was just trying to point out that it does take some work and responsibility which the kid seems to have.

Can't we all just get along :P

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never!!!!

hahahaha

I know pp didn't mean any offense, just pointing out that it probably isn't the nicest thing to sit there and crush all these kids dreams :giggle:

My dad was okay with me getting a snake. My mom on the other hand (who is terrified of snakes), it took me two years to convince her. But now that she finally on board with the idea, and had seen the enclosure I keep the girl in, she's okay with it, and even petted her! O_o She says she's okay with her as long as she's either contained, or under my watchful eye, and that she would freak out the day she see's the snake crawl out from under the door, or my dog chewing on it. ^^; Which I hope never happens.
But anyways, it took me sometime to convence her and it's all good now, and I happily own my baby ball.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

PurplePython, This community is not about trying to shut every kid down who comes here wanting to buy a snake.

Telling them all the reasons why they SHOULDN'T have a snake isn't really the nicest way to encourage this person to become a responsible adult.

Owning a pet is a GREAT way to learn responsibility. Taking care of another life is a big commitment. The OP has been wanting to get a ball python for nearly a year so this isn't an impulse decision.

In my opinion, if the OP can care for a ball python and be able to pay for its expenses, then why shouldn't he be able to own one?

I know a lot of mature youngsters on this site who are more than capable of taking care of ball pythons :)

Lets give him the benefit of the doubt before we just shoot him down.

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refer to my very first post please, where i mentioned "dont let him get the BP unless hes very mature for 15 years old"

thanks

I plan on feeding F/T the rack is for future investments, I dont plan on just keeping one i plan on getting a job and saving for a super pastel and the 2011 breeding season hopefully get killer bees and super pastels =D

-Payson

Payson,

what are you parents concerned about with having a ball python in the house? Are they afraid of them? If they have questions, you are more then welcome to relay them here so they can see many people answers to their questions.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

never!!!!

hahahaha

I know pp didn't mean any offense, just pointing out that it probably isn't the nicest thing to sit there and crush all these kids dreams :giggle:

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:lol:

Yeah I know, honestly I could have been nicer to but I myself have this Pavlovian response to distrust and crush the dreams of children and teens. I think I might be half grinch :P


It's why I always get jabbed by my friends to keep the evil in. I have to bite my tongue alot.


Still having a pet can teach you alot of responsibility. Hopefully dude you will convince them and rise to it like alot of other teens on this site have. :gj:

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

Unexpected costs? - Mite removal, vet visits, meds, upgrading to bigger pray like rats in the future....

Please wait a couple years before you get into this hobby. Unless your a real mature 15 year old than just wait.

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

I plan on feeding F/T the rack is for future investments, I dont plan on just keeping one i plan on getting a job and saving for a super pastel and the 2011 breeding season hopefully get killer bees and super pastels =D

-Payson

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Well hold your horses there wee one! :giggle:

Don't just right into breeding. Especially after (possibly) less than a year of owning them. Knowing a lot about them and caring for them daily are very different.

Also keep in mind that any snakes you get will need to be of proper breeding weight. This will not happen in a year if you get a hatchling ball python. A female takes at LEAST two years to be up to breeding weight and some even aren't ready for breeding after two years.

There are many things to consider when breeding. First you need two healthy adult animals. You need an incubator and housing for all of the hatchlings. You need to have a plan for the babies. If you can't sell them, you need to be prepared to care for them for their entire lives.

It is a big responsibility and should not be taken lightly.


Don't rush into things, ball pythons will be here for a while :P

It's not that they dont want me to have them were in a moving situation and selling a house isn't easy when people know you have reptiles. I know the breeding sizes i didnt mean start at 2011 breeding season i meant hopefully I can. I've been doing alot of reseach on breeding and hope I get it right. I'm very patient, i'm not a rusher on things =D

-Payson!

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

I plan on feeding F/T the rack is for future investments, I dont plan on just keeping one i plan on getting a job and saving for a super pastel and the 2011 breeding season hopefully get killer bees and super pastels =D

-Payson

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See what I'm saying people? See now? This kid dosnt just want 1 ball python to take care of because he wants to get into the hobby or something. This kid is only 15 years old, dosn't even have a job, and is already planning on getting tons of snakes and "breeding" them and stuff.

Kid.... When you get a job are you going to spend all your money on snakes? What about a car? Cellphone? Insurance? Gas money? Cell phone bill? Money to go out and have fun?

Your planning all of this stuff out and your only 15. I'm willing to bet all the money in my name that by the time your 16 years old you will have other plans. It sounds like you have some unrealistic dreams. Kind of reminds me of some kid watching a gangster movie or something then having all of these plans to become some huge drug lord or something.

Your 15, you dont even own a ball python, and your already talking about breeding and buying tons of morphs and stuff.

If your going to get a ball python, then build your own small rack or get a tank, and start off small. If you still want to breed and stuff in a couple years, THEN buy the cb70 rack.

by the way your going to need $200 more for a helix or something also. got an extra $200 laying around? If so more power to you, you must be a little rich boy. Awesome. Just what the Ball Python scene needs to help its efforts of not losing the right to own these animals.... Some 15 year old rich kid running around buying tons of morphs and breeding them when hes 16 in his little closet in his bedroom.

Sorry, just the way I feel.

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

It's not that they dont want me to have them were in a moving situation and selling a house isn't easy when people know you have reptiles. I know the breeding sizes i didnt mean start at 2011 breeding season i meant hopefully I can. I've been doing alot of reseach on breeding and hope I get it right. I'm very patient, i'm not a rusher on things =D

-Payson!

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Ah, perhaps you should wait until you have a more permanent living situation before you dive into the world of BPs. Moving is stressful for them too!

Nice to know you are doing your research though. The main problem with new owners is that they never did, or did minimal research. Doing your homework before class is a good indication of maturity ;)

I am not a rich boy ive worked extreamly hard for the money I have. Why do you bring negativity to this? It's all possible if I put alot of time, effort, and RECIEVE SUPPORT! I have always had a spot for animals. I like how you over exadurate two morphs in to tons of morphs... I know for a fact I am more educated on ball pythons than you are. Do your self a favor and go to another forum and put somone else down...

-Payson!

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

See what I'm saying people? See now? This kid dosnt just want 1 ball python to take care of because he wants to get into the hobby or something. This kid is only 15 years old, dosn't even have a job, and is already planning on getting tons of snakes and "breeding" them and stuff.

Kid.... When you get a job are you going to spend all your money on snakes? What about a car? Cellphone? Insurance? Gas money? Cell phone bill? Money to go out and have fun?

Your planning all of this stuff out and your only 15. I'm willing to bet all the money in my name that by the time your 16 years old you will have other plans. It sounds like you have some unrealistic dreams. Kind of reminds me of some kid watching a gangster movie or something then having all of these plans to become some huge drug lord or something.

Your 15, you dont even own a ball python, and your already talking about breeding and buying tons of morphs and stuff.

If your going to get a ball python, then build your own small rack or get a tank, and start off small. If you still want to breed and stuff in a couple years, THEN buy the cb70 rack.

by the way your going to need $200 more for a helix or something also. got an extra $200 laying around? If so more power to you, you must be a little rich boy. Awesome. Just what the Ball Python scene needs to help its efforts of not losing the right to own these animals.... Some 15 year old rich kid running around buying tons of morphs and breeding them when hes 16 in his little closet in his bedroom.

Sorry, just the way I feel.

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i understand where you are coming from but can you try to seem less hostile


please?

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

I am not a rich boy ive worked extreamly hard for the money I have. Why do you bring negativity to this? It's all possible if I put alot of time, effort, and RECIEVE SUPPORT! I have always had a spot for animals. I like how you over exadurate two morphs in to tons of morphs... I know for a fact I am more educated on ball pythons than you are. Do your self a favor and go to another forum and put somone else down...

-Payson!

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LOLLL okay kid. I'm not about to argue with a 15 year old or start a "Battle of ball python knowledge" with you. good luck. I hope you become the donald trump of ball pythons.

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Originally Posted by PurplePython

LOLLL okay kid. I'm not about to argue with a 15 year old or start a "Battle of ball python knowledge" with you. good luck. I hope you become the donald trump of ball pythons.

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Dude I get you wanna make sure the little dude is responsible and thats cool.


But your very very harsh. Come on man lets try and build up, give good advice not tear down.

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Originally Posted by Paysons Bps

I am not a rich boy ive worked extreamly hard for the money I have. Why do you bring negativity to this? It's all possible if I put alot of time, effort, and RECIEVE SUPPORT! I have always had a spot for animals. I like how you over exadurate two morphs in to tons of morphs... I know for a fact I am more educated on ball pythons than you are. Do your self a favor and go to another forum and put somone else down...

-Payson!

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dude come on thats not cool be nice

Please cut it with the negativity. This kid has only showed that he knows what he is talking about, he is just a little bit ambitious :)

No reason to put someone down because of their age. I bet if he said he was 20 years old you wouldn't have said a thing.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

Please cut it with the negativity. This kid has only showed that he knows what he is talking about, he is just a little bit ambitious :)

No reason to put someone down because of their age. I bet if he said he was 20 years old you wouldn't have said a thing.

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If a 20 year old came here and said he wants to breed ball pythons in a year before he even owned ONE, then I would have prolly been even more harsh.

Anyways, good luck kid. Sounds like you have life planned out to a T

Me personally if hes 15 now. A year he will be 16. Say he keeps his first snake a year before another thats 17. By that time if he wants to breed i dont see why not. Because if his parents will let him then cool. Because lets face it the economy sucks. How many people move out soon as they turn 18 and grad? A lot more stay at home and live there a few more years.

Me personally if hes 17+ and has had a snake for a year or more i see no reason why he cant try his hand at breeding.

I guess he could always spend that $200 he wanted to spend on a snake and go buy some crack and smoke it up.

Id much rather see our youth buying snakes and learning about them then spending it on other things like drugs