Lemonback Pic

I just pulled the trigger on this little guy today. He was produced by Pro Exotics. I told Robin (rabernet) I wasn't going to post his picture until I got him here and took some better ones, but most of you know what it's like to have a new toy. You want to show it off. Thanks for looking.

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners.../Lemonback.jpg

He's just stunning Louis! Hope that he'll be able to make the trip to WARE in September so I can see him in person!

Very, very nice!

Insanely jealous!

Holy cow! I don't remember the Lemonbacks looking so sweet when we looked at them at Tinley! Nice pick up.:gj::gj::gj:

Wow! Haven't seen one of those. What's the genetics?

Man, that's hot! You goin for the lucy? I'll be taking a one way trip on the jealousy express now......

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Originally Posted by Hypnotic Exotic

Wow! Haven't seen one of those. What's the genetics?

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http://www.reptileradio.net/reptiler...ad.php?t=15090

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Originally Posted by rabernet

He's just stunning Louis! Hope that he'll be able to make the trip to WARE in September so I can see him in person!

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Thanks Robin! We might be able to arrange that. ;)

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Originally Posted by Chocolate Muffin's

Very, very nice!

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by m00kfu

Insanely jealous!

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Thanks!

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Originally Posted by jsmorphs2

Holy cow! I don't remember the Lemonbacks looking so sweet when we looked at them at Tinley! Nice pick up.:gj::gj::gj:

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by waltah!

Man, that's hot! You goin for the lucy? I'll be taking a one way trip on the jealousy express now......

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Thanks! We are definitely going for the Lucy as well as some cool combos!

Congrats :gj:

Wow!!!! Big congrats on that new addition!!!!!!!!

Holy Shizzle Shingle Sandwiches Louis! That is HAWT! Too bad it's part of the Black Eye'd Lucy complex ><.

Wow, he's stunning! I love love love that pattern!

Never seen one before soooooo pretty!


Gotta ask ya lou how much did it cost?

Looks like a great project and that one is stunning. Best of luck.

Looks like a mix between YB and fire. Pretty sweet!

Oh my god I just saw the Super Lemonback.... I have never seen a whiter snake...thats just friggan HOT

DO WANT SUPER LEMONBACK

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Originally Posted by joepythons

Congrats :gj:

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Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Boanerges

Wow!!!! Big congrats on that new addition!!!!!!!!

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by AaronP

Holy Shizzle Shingle Sandwiches Louis! That is HAWT! Too bad it's part of the Black Eye'd Lucy complex ><.

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Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Elise.m

Wow, he's stunning! I love love love that pattern!

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Thank you! Yeah, his pattern is what pushed me over the edge. :D

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Never seen one before soooooo pretty!


Gotta ask ya lou how much did it cost?

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Thanks! If you look quick there are some listed in today's KS classifieds.

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

Looks like a great project and that one is stunning. Best of luck.

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Thank you!

Whats a KS Classified?

Louis you always seem to beable to snatch up the coolest stuff..

that's a really sweet looking morph dude.. are they Fire and Sulfer compatable or do we know yet

Wow....that's a very nice snake! Congrats and I hope you do bring him to WARE in Sept, I bet pics just don't do him justice!!

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Originally Posted by Hulihzack

Looks like a mix between YB and fire. Pretty sweet!

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Seru1

Whats a KS Classified?

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kingsnake

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

Louis you always seem to beable to snatch up the coolest stuff..

that's a really sweet looking morph dude.. are they Fire and Sulfer compatable or do we know yet

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Thanks Ed! You know what they say....."even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then" :D

As for the compatibility question......I haven't heard if they're compatible, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out they are.

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Originally Posted by MissDixie

Wow....that's a very nice snake! Congrats and I hope you do bring him to WARE in Sept, I bet pics just don't do him justice!!

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Thank you! We'll try to bring him. I can't say if he looks better in "person" because I've only seen pics so far. I'd bet he does though. :D

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

Thanks Ed! You know what they say....."even a blind hog finds an acorn every now and then" :D

As for the compatibility question......I haven't heard if they're compatible, but I wouldn't be surprised to find out they are.

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LOL well I'm hunting under the wrong tree's then..

Congrats again.. ;)

The KS ad has a bit of Information about the morph in there as well.

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Originally Posted by Kingsnake Ad

The Pro Exotics Lemonbacks seem to be related to Fires, along the same lines as the relation between Lessers and Butters. Lemonbacks make Fireflies when bred with a Pastel, and the Super Lemonback is an outstanding white snake without a speck of color.

We have crossed the Lemonback with the Desert line to make a Desert Lemonback, producing a gorgeous snake!

Lemonbacks have tons of potential as a combo or stand alone morph. Add Lemonbacks to your collection today!

Lemonbacks- u.s.c.b. 2009- Males and females available at $500ea

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Very nice add! I love the pattern.

Wow! What a beautiful snake!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

LOL well I'm hunting under the wrong tree's then..

Congrats again.. ;)

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:8: Haha - now that's funny right there - I don't care who you are. Especially coming from the guy with the hottest bee on the planet! :P

What a totaly hot snake! I love it.

He is one sweet looking snake :gj: Very nice!

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

I just pulled the trigger on this little guy today. He was produced by Pro Exotics. I told Robin (rabernet) I wasn't going to post his picture until I got him here and took some better ones, but most of you know what it's like to have a new toy. You want to show it off. Thanks for looking.

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners.../Lemonback.jpg

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What a stunner Louis. You've done it again... :)

Justin

I love seeing new stuff, very pretty! Congrats!

So this is PE's version of the fire. Is there anyway someone can post a pic of a fire and lemonback next to each other? Is there a big difference between the two?

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Originally Posted by Louis Kirkland

I just pulled the trigger on this little guy today. He was produced by Pro Exotics. I told Robin (rabernet) I wasn't going to post his picture until I got him here and took some better ones, but most of you know what it's like to have a new toy. You want to show it off. Thanks for looking.

http://photos.imageevent.com/corners.../Lemonback.jpg

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That was a very smart pickup Louis. If the Super continues to be a pure Pied white Ball they are going to be the most popular Lucy ever.

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Originally Posted by WildCreations

So this is PE's version of the fire. Is there anyway someone can post a pic of a fire and lemonback next to each other? Is there a big difference between the two?

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I am not sure you can call it a version of the Fire. It really looks nothing like one.

Here are a few pictures of a Fire and a Lemonback side by side. The Fire is on the right.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire1.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire2.jpg

The next picture is of a Fire belly.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire3.jpg

This one is of a Lemonback belly

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire4.jpg

Here is a close up of the Fire.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/fire08_1_800_3.jpg

Here is a close up of a Lemonback.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...09_1_800_3.jpg

Personally I don’t think they look much alike.

Ooo that lemonback dessert is super hot!!!

Congrats on the pick up, he's really cool!

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Originally Posted by Freakie_frog

LOL well I'm hunting under the wrong tree's then..

Congrats again.. ;)

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I think you've been hunting (and finding) in some pretty good places judging by the pictures I've seen. ;) :D

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Originally Posted by pedipalps

Very nice add! I love the pattern.

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by python1024

Wow! What a beautiful snake!

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Thanks!

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Originally Posted by rabernet

:8: Haha - now that's funny right there - I don't care who you are. Especially coming from the guy with the hottest bee on the planet! :P

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That is funny! I cracked up when I read that. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

The KS ad has a bit of Information about the morph in there as well.

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Thanks for the info!

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Originally Posted by TessadasExotics

What a totaly hot snake! I love it.

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by ajsnoopy

He is one sweet looking snake :gj: Very nice!

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by jkobylka

What a stunner Louis. You've done it again... :)

Justin

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Thanks Justin!

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Originally Posted by Oroborous

I love seeing new stuff, very pretty! Congrats!

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by WildCreations

So this is PE's version of the fire. Is there anyway someone can post a pic of a fire and lemonback next to each other? Is there a big difference between the two?

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I see Albey has addressed your question. Good info Albey!

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Originally Posted by Albey

That was a very smart pickup Louis. If the Super continues to be a pure Pied white Ball they are going to be the most popular Lucy ever.



I am not sure you can call it a version of the Fire. It really looks nothing like one.

Here are a few pictures of a Fire and a Lemonback side by side. The Fire is on the right.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire1.jpg

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire2.jpg

The next picture is of a Fire belly.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire3.jpg

This one is of a Lemonback belly

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/lemfire4.jpg

Here is a close up of the Fire.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images/fire08_1_800_3.jpg

Here is a close up of a Lemonback.

http://www.albeysreptiles.com/images...09_1_800_3.jpg

Personally I don’t think they look much alike.

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Originally Posted by SlitherinSisters

Ooo that lemonback dessert is super hot!!!

Congrats on the pick up, he's really cool!

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Thanks Albey! And thank you for the extra pics and info. Good stuff! :gj:

Very nice Louis! I love the pattern and color of that guy...

Good luck with him.

Tom

amazing!!!!!!:bow::bow:

They are so nice. I want one.

Has anyone seen an updated pic of the Super? You really can't see much color on a lot of Super Fires when they are born...the yellow spots get darker as they age(they all don't have spots though). It will be interesting to see if these get yellow spots on them also, or if they stay all white. BG would need to see at least 10 Super Lemonbacks at about 300 grams before he could give his verdict.

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

Has anyone seen an updated pic of the Super? You really can't see much color on a lot of Super Fires when they are born...the yellow spots get darker as they age(they all don't have spots though). It will be interesting to see if these get yellow spots on them also, or if they stay all white. BG would need to see at least 10 Super Lemonbacks at about 300 grams before he could give his verdict.

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Very wise!! ;)

I reserve my final verdict based on seeing at least 5 different of ANY, and ALL, MORPHS... at a minimum of 800 grams. :D

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Originally Posted by Big Gunns

Has anyone seen an updated pic of the Super? You really can't see much color on a lot of Super Fires when they are born...the yellow spots get darker as they age(they all don't have spots though). It will be interesting to see if these get yellow spots on them also, or if they stay all white. BG would need to see at least 10 Super Lemonbacks at about 300 grams before he could give his verdict.

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Oh I agree with you whole hardily BG and that is why in my post I stated the following.

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Originally Posted by Albey

That was a very smart pickup Louis. If the Super continues to be a pure Pied white Ball they are going to be the most popular Lucy ever.

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Now if you looked at the recent Kingsnake ad you will notice that Pro Exotics states that the following.

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Originally Posted by Pro Exotics in a Kingsnake Ad

The Pro Exotics Lemonbacks seem to be related to Fires, along the same lines as the relation between Lessers and Butters. Lemonbacks make Fireflies when bred with a Pastel, and the Super Lemonback is an outstanding white snake without a speck of color.

We have crossed the Lemonback with the Desert line to make a Desert Lemonback, producing a gorgeous snake!

Lemonbacks have tons of potential as a combo or stand alone morph. Add Lemonbacks to your collection today!

Lemonbacks- u.s.c.b. 2009- Males and females available at $500ea

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Now I realize if they are lying about the Super still being a white snake without a speck of color they would be the first breeders to do such a thing, :rofl: but Chad and Robin have always struck me as guys that were pretty much on the up and up and I will take them at their word.

Great pickup Louis! The lemonback is definately one to add to my collection in the future.

Albey, thanks as usual for the lesson and pics.

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Originally Posted by Tom Barnhart

Very nice Louis! I love the pattern and color of that guy...

Good luck with him.

Tom

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Thanks Tom!

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Originally Posted by dembonez

amazing!!!!!!:bow::bow:

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Thank you!

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Originally Posted by jsschrei

They are so nice. I want one.

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Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Albey

Now I realize if they are lying about the Super still being a white snake without a speck of color they would be the first breeders to do such a thing, :rofl: but Chad and Robin have always struck me as guys that were pretty much on the up and up and I will take them at their word.

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Thanks again Albey! I agree! http://photos.imageevent.com/corners...ate/iagree.gif

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Originally Posted by Alice

Great pickup Louis! The lemonback is definately one to add to my collection in the future.

Albey, thanks as usual for the lesson and pics.

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Thanks Alice!

I wonder how long it will be before they make it over here...

:confused: I'm confused....it looks like a nice normal to me. What makes it stand out visually?

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Originally Posted by Bill Buchman

Very wise!! ;)

I reserve my final verdict based on seeing at least 5 different of ANY, and ALL, MORPHS... at a minimum of 800 grams. :D

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Would you ever expect BG to be anything else?:D

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Originally Posted by Albey

Oh I agree with you whole hardily BG and that is why in my post I stated the following.



Now if you looked at the recent Kingsnake ad you will notice that Pro Exotics states that the following.



Now I realize if they are lying about the Super still being a white snake without a speck of color they would be the first breeders to do such a thing, :rofl: but Chad and Robin have always struck me as guys that were pretty much on the up and up and I will take them at their word.

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We will see. BG for one hopes it does stay perfectly white.

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Originally Posted by 4theSNAKElady

:confused: I'm confused....it looks like a nice normal to me. What makes it stand out visually?

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This is what separates the rookies from the pros. Now BG wants everyone to brace themselves for what's coming. It may have already started. BG gives the over under odds at 1 week. Just like the "Is this a Fire"....and the "Is this a Yellowbelly" threads....there will be 1 million "Is the a Lemonback" threads starting very shortly.

BG is willing to bet that half the people(rookies) on here think they have one right now.:D

BG will say it's once again. A "normal" is not a "normal" until bred and proven to be a "normal". Even if you do that though, you still need to breed the babies back to the parents to prove without a doubt that it is a "normal". So in other words, a few of you may have a Lemonback, but BG doubts it, us pros are pretty good at picking them out. We probably would have spotted it long before it ever made it out to the general public, but you never know.:gj:

Now how many of you have pulled out some of your nice yellow "normals" and are thinking you hit the jackpot?:D

LOve it!!!!!!

really nice lemonback

Louis, wicked looking snake, I love the reduced pattern. Do you know where Pro Exotics got the original. I ask because about 5 years ago, I was talking over the net to a guy who had a Fire looking snake that he called Lemonback Hypos....wonder if PE bought out his project, or if the name was just coincidence.

As far as comparison shots go, I think there is going to be a drastic amount of differing color and patterns in each line. I honestly think you could take two Sulfurs and post pics side by side and they would look different. I think you could take two Fires and put them side by side and they would look different. There is a wide range of appearance inside each morph/line. I produced a very dark and granite looking Sulfur back in 06. I have also produced light and clean Sulfurs. This past year, I produced a few Embers, and all looked similar except one bright orange one. (if you want to see pics, I think there is a thread on here under Emberball comparison or something like that)

I would say, if there are going to be comparisons, everyone has to agree on one snake from each line as a representitive snake, and as an average look for the line, in order for there to be a meaninful comparison of the lines. Or, take 5 random Sulfurs, 5 random Lemonbacks, and 5 random Fires, and do a comparison that way.

Dave