Ambient Temps?

So, from what I've read on here, having your UTH, heat tape, flexwatt, etc. heated at the right temps is just enough heat for your BP to not get an RI.

Well, all my BPs are at their correct temps. But, what about the ambient temp? Wouldn't that need to be warm enough for BPs to not get an RI? I wouldn't imagine only a UTH is enough for a BP not to get sick from incorrect temps.

During the Winter my temps for ambient get a bit cool, but in the Summer they rise just where I want them to be. I haven't noticed any RIs yet (knock on wood), but my ambient does get a bit cool.

Would this have any effect on the BP or is a UTH actually enough heat?:confused:

I use a space heater controlled with a Johnson t-stat to keep the whole room around 81F. In a few weeks, when the outside temps get into the high 80's and I need to turn the a/c on, then I just close the vent for the snake room and use fans...

I provide my snakes with a hot spot of 92-93*. The ambient temps in my room are a little bit low (mid to low 70's) which makes my ambient temp in the snakes tubs around 75*+.

I have never had any issues with respiratory infections. I think when we are talking about low temps causing RI's, we are talking about way below 70* for long periods of time. Many times, with no other source of heat.

No, sometimes temps under 75F ambient can lead to RIs. Some individual snakes will handle it better than others, too.

If your cage temps are consistantly below 80F during the day, consider a radiant heat panel.

what are some other ways to get the coolside temps up other than using a space heater?

Lamps, second UTH, radiant heat panel, insulating the tank.

It really depends on your climate which method will be most effective.

space heater in the colder months keeps the room at 80 and summer keeps it at around the same temp since i have a dual exhaust fan.

Putting a second uth on the cool side and covering with foam board should do it but if you have multiple snakes, a space heater may be better! It's up to you which way you want to go!

space heater on the lowest setting keeps my room 80 degrees int he with and thats with the house thermostat set at 70. I just have the space heater plugged in and on the lowest setting. been doing this for a few years now with no problems whats so ever.

hmm im thinking second uth for coolside connected to a dimmer (which is then connected to a tstat) Do you guys think this is the most economical way? i live in los angeles.. Oh and reason why im avoiding a space heater is due to the lack of a " snake room"

p.s. the snakes will be in tubs

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Originally Posted by herpdaily

hmm im thinking second uth for coolside connected to a dimmer (which is then connected to a tstat) Do you guys think this is the most economical way? i live in los angeles.. Oh and reason why im avoiding a space heater is due to the lack of a " snake room"

p.s. the snakes will be in tubs

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Yes doing that would work fine :)

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Originally Posted by herpdaily

hmm im thinking second uth for coolside connected to a dimmer (which is then connected to a tstat) Do you guys think this is the most economical way? i live in los angeles.. Oh and reason why im avoiding a space heater is due to the lack of a " snake room"

p.s. the snakes will be in tubs

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I wouldnt run your heating device through a dimmer(rheo) and a thermostat together. I would run either or. Your T- Stat isnt designed to work properly through a dimmer as power output would fluctuate. T-stat alone would be best. Dimmer would fluctuate with your ambient room temps.

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Originally Posted by trott

I wouldnt run your heating device through a dimmer(rheo) and a thermostat together. I would run either or. Your T- Stat isnt designed to work properly through a dimmer as power output would fluctuate. T-stat alone would be best. Dimmer would fluctuate with your ambient room temps.

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You can run a dimmer between a thermostat to get a different temperature on the second heating device. They just need to be identical. This is helpful for single setups that want two UTHs on different temperatures.

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Originally Posted by herpdaily

what are some other ways to get the coolside temps up other than using a space heater?

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i have a 20 gallon tank and this is how i keep my temps up

i have a 20 gallon UTH not quite centered but put a little bit towards the left side and a lamp with a regular 100 watt light bulb pointed slightly towards the left and it seems to keep it perfect.

my room temps are 74 degrees pretty consistently

my hotspot - 90-94 cool side - 80-84 humidity - stays around 48-50 ambient humidity and i spray every once in a while under favored hide (i move her and the hide and moisten the substrate and re-even it and replace the hide.

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Originally Posted by Kaorte

You can run a dimmer between a thermostat to get a different temperature on the second heating device. They just need to be identical. This is helpful for single setups that want two UTHs on different temperatures.

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From what i've read stats like Helix and Spyder highly recommend against splicing a power adjuster in between. Which is what a dimmer is. i believe something about Triax failure but not sure.

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Originally Posted by trott

From what i've read stats like Helix and Spyder highly recommend against splicing a power adjuster in between. Which is what a dimmer is. i believe something about Triax failure but not sure.

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I think in most cases, people who do this use on/off type thermostats.

i tried a uth on the coolside of a tub... didnt work. still couldnt get my ambient temp above 75 with my thermostats/dimmers off.(no animals in there of course) so im forced to use a tank with lighting to get my ambient temp up. i have a dedicated reptile room but 4 of my geckos cant deal with temps over 80, so heating the room is out. pretty much sucks! wish i could find a way to use the tub. itd be sooo much easier

A second heat source will work fine. I personally would use a herpstat or helix one for each or a multi probe one. It may be possable to run both off the same thermostat with a dimmer between cool side one. I don't know it should work fine but I have never seen it. Kaorte is that what you ment earlier?

ls1goat04 to me it sounds like 2 things that your source is too low wattage, and or the enclosure is very inefficient. Tubs (not in a rack) for all the advantages are very poor at holding heat. Insulating 3 sides (leave an air space around the tub) and or depending on the heat source thermal mass. That is a rock or heavy object that will become warm with the primary heat source and radiate it out to the cool side. Much like a panel.