Sand Boas

Anyone here into sand boas? We've had a few species of boas but not many in the desert category (except for a Rosy Boa that was AWESOME). What do you guys think about 'em?

Love em :D

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love em.

We have some awesome paradox albinos and a super hot Paradox Snow.

I haven't gotten one yet, but I've been looking into the rough-scaled sand boas. I like the way they look...

I LOVE sand boas. One of my favorite snakes in the world. I've been working with them for about 3 years now. I have several albino, anery, and high orange breeders. I picked up a nice pair of stripe het anery's last year. I plan on hooking the male up with some of my anery females this fall to make some anery stripes!

Sand boa enthusiasts seem to be few and far between so we gotta stick together!!

That's what I plan on getting next. I've always like them. I just find them fascinating. I would love a high orange female :)

i just picked up my first kenyan today and i cant wait till i pic up another(dont let my BPs read this):D

Black Russian Sands are awesome too. We have a pair of those as well.

I love sand boas! The one I had one docile as can be. A great eater as well!

I was never really interested in the smaller boa species. (It's funny how often I say things like that. I was never really interested in lizards until I was introduced to beardies, then I was never really into amphibians until I brought home my first tree frogs, then I was completely uninterested in inverts until my best friend bought a tarantula... I wonder if there's any reptile/amphibian/invert I actually don't like. :P) But anyways, I was at the San Mateo show on Saturday and spotted these little rough-scaled sand boas from Global Captive Breeders and fell in love.

My new little guy. :D

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I haven't gotten one yet, but I've been looking into the rough-scaled sand boas. I like the way they look...

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps

I was never really interested in the smaller boa species. (It's funny how often I say things like that. I was never really interested in lizards until I was introduced to beardies, then I was never really into amphibians until I brought home my first tree frogs, then I was completely uninterested in inverts until my best friend bought a tarantula... I wonder if there's any reptile/amphibian/invert I actually don't like. :P) But anyways, I was at the San Mateo show on Saturday and spotted these little rough-scaled sand boas from Global Captive Breeders and fell in love.

My new little guy. :D

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Very nice pick-up. They just made it to the top of my "want" list. Maybe someone will have some at the next reptile expo in May...
I do have to admit that those "true" sand boas with the eyes on top of their heads are a bit freaky and interesting looking

hence my name i am a TREMENDOUS fan of the family Erycinae and have studied many of the species within its three genera, however these are my only sand boas (for now :D) they are pretty rare and it was a hassle to get them, and i totally agree with Coldblooded! us sand boa enthusiasts are few in numbers, so dont lose interest in these little wonders. so heres my Eryx jayakari or Arabian Sand Boa

P.S. they are radically sexually dimorphic so don't think that ones underfed/overfed

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I've always loved sand boas. Not sure I'd ever own one but never say never.


That one is VERY pretty.

Ive always loved sand boas. The first time I ever saw Beetlejuice I said OH MY GOD! The sand worms look like like sand boas!! My friends thought I was nuts but I liked the beetlejuice sand worms and thought they were cute because of that. :P

I bought a new adult female Kenyan sand boa on Saturday at a show, and I haven't seen her since then, haha. I have to say, I love her! It's so different to hold one compared to a python or even a colubrid, they don't grip on you whatsoever.

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Originally Posted by NotaMallard

I bought a new adult female Kenyan sand boa on Saturday at a show, and I haven't seen her since then, haha. I have to say, I love her! It's so different to hold one compared to a python or even a colubrid, they don't grip on you whatsoever.

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agreed, to be honest i think they are the most docile snakes out there, and ive never been bitten by them once, and Rubber Boas (Charina bottae which is in the family Erycinae) is an extremely tame snake that will stay on your hand for hours!

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Originally Posted by Erycinae

agreed, to be honest i think they are the most docile snakes out there, and ive never been bitten by them once, and Rubber Boas (Charina bottae which is in the family Erycinae) is an extremely tame snake that will stay on your hand for hours!

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I just got one yesterday. I got her from Brian at BHB. He picked her out for me, and said well, she's a little wild :) And that she is. She is quite jumpy. Hopefully she calms down soon!

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Originally Posted by NYDragon

I just got one yesterday. I got her from Brian at BHB. He picked her out for me, and said well, she's a little wild :) And that she is. She is quite jumpy. Hopefully she calms down soon!

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haha well do you know if shes a Southern Rubber Boa (Charina umbritica) or a Northern Rubber Boa (Charina bottae)? ive heard that the Southern one is more jumpy, and all the ones ive held are great, but that could just be my experience :oops:

She's actually a female Kenyan Sand Boa. The rubber boa's next on the list. My friend has a few and they are awesome. Anywho, here's a picture of her.

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She's just a little skittish. I assume with regular handling she'll calm down.

I have a normal Kenyan at home, and have for about 15 years. He's honestly my favorite snake of our collection. Extremely docile should you want to show him off, and when feeding time comes around I can't stop watching. Ambush predation at its finest.

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Originally Posted by Erycinae

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Beautiful snakes!! You definitely don't see many jayakari out there. I've always wanted to get my hands on a pair!

There was an Indian Sand Boa for sale through the wholesaler table at White Plains also. Tempting but you just have no idea about the background of the animal. She was gorgeous though, and quite large. I also almost bought a Calabars too. Really cool snakes! If I wasn't moving out of state in a month or two, I probably would have picked up a few more. :)

Do the Rough Scaled SB come in any color/pattern morphs...?

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Originally Posted by Patrick Long

Black Russian Sands are awesome too. We have a pair of those as well.

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Hey Pat, where'd you get your Black Russians?

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Originally Posted by ColdBloodedCarnival

Beautiful snakes!! You definitely don't see many jayakari out there. I've always wanted to get my hands on a pair!

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thanks a lot man, its REALLY hard to get one of these let alone a pair! but hopefully ill be breeding them in January and should have neonates by early summer :) theyll be the only CB babies youll find in a long time, so PM if youre interested :D

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Originally Posted by Erycinae

thanks a lot man, its REALLY hard to get one of these let alone a pair! but hopefully ill be breeding them in January and should have neonates by early summer :) theyll be the only CB babies youll find in a long time, so PM if youre interested :D

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VERY interested!!!! PM sent. Keep me up to date on those!

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

Do the Rough Scaled SB come in any color/pattern morphs...?

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none have really been made except for naturally occuring mutations which STILL havent been found out, but there's a high chance that theres albino, anery, and patternless E. conicus and thanks about the PM ColdBlooded i replied, and nice site you got there :D REALLY excited about the future plans for an anery/amel striped colubrinus!!!!!

Could someone please tell me the difference between Eryx conicus and Gongylophis conicus? I've seen both. :confused:

how big do sand boas get? jw i like boas but a 10ft snake? haha im not that good yet

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Originally Posted by dembonez

how big do sand boas get? jw i like boas but a 10ft snake? haha im not that good yet

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Couple feet max.

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Originally Posted by Crazy4Herps

Could someone please tell me the difference between Eryx conicus and Gongylophis conicus? I've seen both. :confused:

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Gongylophis and Eryx are two genera in the family Erycinae, the main difference is where the species within the genus live, Gongylophis is essentially Middle Africa, which is is below Egypt, and it includes India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh (Eryx johnii comes from India and Pakistan, but it is considered in the genus Eryx) so Eryx conicus is actually a "mislabeled" name for Gongylophis conicus which is the correct scientific name for the Rough Scaled Sand Boa which hails from the region of India, and Pakistan

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here are some pics for ya... i know theres like 10 other people that cherped in b4 me but oh well i promiced!! i cant really get a good pic of her so sorry they are not that good.

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Originally Posted by Erycinae

Gongylophis and Eryx are two genera in the family Erycinae, the main difference is where the species within the genus live, Gongylophis is essentially Middle Africa, which is is below Egypt, and it includes India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, and Bangladesh (Eryx johnii comes from India and Pakistan, but it is considered in the genus Eryx) so Eryx conicus is actually a "mislabeled" name for Gongylophis conicus which is the correct scientific name for the Rough Scaled Sand Boa which hails from the region of India, and Pakistan

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Ah, I see! Thanks very much!

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Originally Posted by Hulihzack

Love em :D

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Zack, where did ya get that one???:O

That thing is too cute...



I will admit this to EVERYONE... I've had a secret love & soft spot for KSBs:D
I'll get myself a trio or pair at the San Diego Show hopefully, I'm gonna be breeding:P

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here are some pics for ya... i know theres like 10 other people that cherped in b4 me but oh well i promiced!! i cant really get a good pic of her so sorry they are not that good.

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i dont want to sound annoying here :oops: but in the last picture, i saw that your keeping your KSB on fine sand....i wouldnt recommend it :( you cant see it, but theres dust that comes off of the sand when shifted, and this sand will eventually lead to nasal and respiratory infections in your snake. and i know that people always ask the question "if they're called Sand Boas, shouldn't they be kept on sand?" and the answer is no. in the wild where Sand Boas live, they actually bury themselves in coarse sand, somewhat like sandblasting sand, or the sand you find in Californian deserts. they also bury into the top layers where theres leaf litter and dead plant material that (to a degree) holds moisture when wet creating a humid microclimate.

just trying to help :D

How many here are working with Rough Scaled Sand Boas....I am very interested in them...

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Originally Posted by Jerhart

How many here are working with Rough Scaled Sand Boas....I am very interested in them...

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I will be working with them as soon as the SD Reptile Super Show starts. Got two months left until that big weekend.

I'll be getting a trio of Anery Kenyans and most likely a pair of Rough Scales. Can't forget about my JCP and Borneo though, I'll be getting them I hope.

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How many here are working with Rough Scaled Sand Boas....I am very interested in them...

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I am! :D Coolest little guys ever!

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Originally Posted by Erycinae

i dont want to sound annoying here :oops: but in the last picture, i saw that your keeping your KSB on fine sand....i wouldnt recommend it :( you cant see it, but theres dust that comes off of the sand when shifted, and this sand will eventually lead to nasal and respiratory infections in your snake. and i know that people always ask the question "if they're called Sand Boas, shouldn't they be kept on sand?" and the answer is no. in the wild where Sand Boas live, they actually bury themselves in coarse sand, somewhat like sandblasting sand, or the sand you find in Californian deserts. they also bury into the top layers where theres leaf litter and dead plant material that (to a degree) holds moisture when wet creating a humid microclimate.

just trying to help :D

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thanks for your concern... but i have tried several times to switch her substrate and she hates anything other than sand. ive had her over a yr and she has ben happy and healthy ever since. i have tried aspen, cypress multch, and other stuff that ive read about to use but when i do she stresses out horribly and flips out. so sand is the only thing to keep her happy, and i know just bc they are called sand boas that they arnt supose to be housed with sand. as i said, she hates everything else. :( but thanks!

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Originally Posted by SnakesNStangss22

thanks for your concern... but i have tried several times to switch her substrate and she hates anything other than sand. ive had her over a yr and she has ben happy and healthy ever since. i have tried aspen, cypress multch, and other stuff that ive read about to use but when i do she stresses out horribly and flips out. so sand is the only thing to keep her happy, and i know just bc they are called sand boas that they arnt supose to be housed with sand. as i said, she hates everything else. :( but thanks!

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hmmm thats weird :confused: have you tried Sani-Chips? thats what i keep my Sand Boas on

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

Zack, where did ya get that one???:O

That thing is too cute...



I will admit this to EVERYONE... I've had a secret love & soft spot for KSBs:D
I'll get myself a trio or pair at the San Diego Show hopefully, I'm gonna be breeding:P

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I got a trio from Howard dal Monte (Reptile Fanatics) at the Phoenix show last year. They're anery het snows. :)

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Originally Posted by Hulihzack

I got a trio from Howard dal Monte (Reptile Fanatics) at the Phoenix show last year. They're anery het snows. :)

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I hope to get a trio of Anery at the San Diego Show. Two more months!

And I think I know who your talking about, I saw his Kenyans and they were pretty nice looking. Was he in the booth right next to those Leopard Geckos?

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Originally Posted by Erycinae

hmmm thats weird :confused: have you tried Sani-Chips? thats what i keep my Sand Boas on

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tried this and aspen, along with cypress multch and some other stupid stuff the pet store told me too. i am cleaning her cage today so ill throw some aspen in and see what she does :)

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Originally Posted by CoolioTiffany

I hope to get a trio of Anery at the San Diego Show. Two more months!

And I think I know who your talking about, I saw his Kenyans and they were pretty nice looking. Was he in the booth right next to those Leopard Geckos?

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Hmm I don't remember who he was next to. But he's a great guy, he even gave me a hands on popping lesson and let me practice on his snakes. I'm really bad at it. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by SnakesNStangss22

tried this and aspen, along with cypress multch and some other stupid stuff the pet store told me too. i am cleaning her cage today so ill throw some aspen in and see what she does :)

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sounds good :) also if she demands sand, then you could try sandblasting sand, ive heard that it works great with Sand Boas as long as you get a fairly coarse grain of it, but one that isnt too coarse

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Originally Posted by Erycinae

sounds good :) also if she demands sand, then you could try sandblasting sand, ive heard that it works great with Sand Boas as long as you get a fairly coarse grain of it, but one that isnt too coarse

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ok, i didnt get to get aspen in her tank i will do that monday, i really dont want to hurt her, but shes a picky lil brat lol

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Originally Posted by SnakesNStangss22

ok, i didnt get to get aspen in her tank i will do that monday, i really dont want to hurt her, but shes a picky lil brat lol

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haha i understand, well good luck

hey, seen that this thread was back on top and checked it out, last thursday i got aspen in there and she seems lo like it. shes all happy now with no sand!! :)

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Originally Posted by SnakesNStangss22

thanks for your concern... but i have tried several times to switch her substrate and she hates anything other than sand. ive had her over a yr and she has ben happy and healthy ever since. i have tried aspen, cypress multch, and other stuff that ive read about to use but when i do she stresses out horribly and flips out. so sand is the only thing to keep her happy, and i know just bc they are called sand boas that they arnt supose to be housed with sand. as i said, she hates everything else. :( but thanks!

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Try crushed walnut shells. It's basically sand but isn't nearly as fine and doesn't have the same amount of dust material. It's also a bit safer.

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Originally Posted by SnakesNStangss22

hey, seen that this thread was back on top and checked it out, last thursday i got aspen in there and she seems lo like it. shes all happy now with no sand!! :)

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great :D

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Originally Posted by blackcrystal22

Try crushed walnut shells. It's basically sand but isn't nearly as fine and doesn't have the same amount of dust material. It's also a bit safer.

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ive never heard of people using that before :confused: have you used it?