Another is this a morph poll

Hi,

Before we begin I have to admit the camera won this round and I couldn't get an accurate representation of his colours. :oops:

The pics should still be clear enough for our purposes though I think.

Once again the filenames should provide the answer for those who do not wish to play. :gj:

http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/2...gbetterbe1.jpg

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/4...gbetterbe2.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5...gbetterbe3.jpg

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/1...gbetterbe4.jpg

Have fun. :salute:


dr del

a lesser maybe a butter?:)

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Originally Posted by BjDavid

a lesser maybe a butter?:)

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I second that..


Gavin

my gut very strongly says that it is. very neat looking flames. I haven't seen those colors on a normal, I don't think. Anyway, neat lookin' snake.

A nice looking Butter.

Jim Smith

buttah:gj:

what does tuupence a bucket well stamped down mean??

I voted morph.

Bit too easy if you ask me.

Jim

Normally I don't play because I don't know all the different morphs. But this doesn't look like a normal ball. It's very nice though.:gj:

im gonna say really nice nromal, I have a 1800g female that looks jsut like that, and she's a total normal

Nice lesser :cool:

in my opinion thats a butter. a nice little butter =] lol:D

wait i take that back!!! its a lesser!! lol or maybe a butter................:confused::confused::confused::rolleye2:

Sure looks like a lesser to me... and now that I've place my "yes" vote, I will check the filename for the answer. :D

butter

butter?

What's a Sodding Better Be? Is that like a Bumblebee, but from a British import strain?;)

I like how people keep saying butter or lesser and its pretty split what people think, but some will still argue they are not the same morph.

Hi,

Well he was produced from my lesser platinum male to a normal female.

But a lot of people say the biggest difference is colour and I know I can't get a decent pic of his colours so that may explain it. :oops:


dr del

I just KNEW it was a bacon buttie!! :D :rolleye2:

I am by no means an expert, that being said...I believe that that is a really nice looking Butter.

Lol I was actually talking about a sandwich that dr del likes.. I believe its a lesser. That was going to be my guess anyway (had I typed it). I was reluctant to say butter because Im biased and compare all butters to my own. It just didnt look buttery enough. Very nice lesser though :)

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Originally Posted by Never3

I am by no means an expert, that being said...I believe that that is a really nice looking Butter.

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In spite of its father being a lesser platinum? :rolleyes:

Mind you, I believe both are the same mutation from different founding animals. (Though I prefer calling them butter over lesser, since lesser has negative implications...)

Hi,

It's worse than you think Russ - the lesser I have is supposedly an F2 from Noahs Platinum female in Africa.

So it is from a different animal again than the lessers and butters over there. :rofl:


dr del

This one is too tough for BG. Lavender albino maybe?:D

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Originally Posted by Russ Lawson

In spite of its father being a lesser platinum? :rolleyes:

Mind you, I believe both are the same mutation from different founding animals. (Though I prefer calling them butter over lesser, since lesser has negative implications...)

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What negative implications?

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

It's worse than you think Russ - the lesser I have is supposedly an F2 from Noahs Platinum female in Africa.

So it is from a different animal again than the lessers and butters over there. :rofl:


dr del

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Yet I'm still unconvinced any one of those lines is a different mutations from the others. (Can't forget EBN's lesser line if you want to throw a 4th into the mix.) ;)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

What negative implications?

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Nothing to do with the mutation, just the fact that you're calling the animal "lesser" sounds a bit demeaning to a beautiful mutation in my opinion. Yes I know they were named that because the platinum father looked "better," I just don't like calling any of my animals "lesser."

looks like a morph to me but i cant be sure eiter way its a beautiful ball

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Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser

I like how people keep saying butter or lesser and its pretty split what people think, but some will still argue they are not the same morph.

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Agreed IMO only the top 2% of lessers look differant enough (more green) to even tell the differance, or maybe people are breeding both and dont know what they are so we are getting some of both. My butter and a friends lesser look like they could have come from the same parents.... But I will have to say good examples of both morphs as adults its easier to see why people still consider them differant morphs. Does anyone know if a butter x woma produces similar offspring to the lesser x woma?? I have been very curious to know as I have a male butter and if thats the case I need to find a higgen gene woma female.

Sorry HIDDEN gene woma lol

Hey two for two alright. It's a Mojave Butter. I thought it was a morph for dummies question because it was a Mojave so of course it's a morph, but when I read a post in one of the pictures it really looks like a Mojave Butter.

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Originally Posted by Spider@BHB

Hey two for two alright. It's a Mojave Butter. I thought it was a morph for dummies question because it was a Mojave so of course it's a morph, but when I read a post in one of the pictures it really looks like a Mojave Butter.

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A mojave butter would be a blue-eyed leucistic.

i say its a ball python:rolleye2:

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Originally Posted by Russ Lawson

A mojave butter would be a blue-eyed leucistic.

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Agreed ;)

Beautiful snake that Del, Its a pied isn't it ;)

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Well he was produced from my lesser platinum male to a normal female.

But a lot of people say the biggest difference is colour and I know I can't get a decent pic of his colours so that may explain it. :oops:


dr del

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any Yb in there?
belly is 'suggesting' it?

Hi,

Not that I know of mate. :)

Neither parent shows any YB markers that I can see.

If I still have him at breeding size I may point him at his mama out of curiosity. ;)


dr del

7.59% of us! Awesome!

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Originally Posted by jimbo4382

what does tuupence a bucket well stamped down mean??

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It's a quote by this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rincewind

:D

Heh,

<---- Big discworld fan. :salute:

It's much older than that - it stems from the days of horses and then horse drawn carridges etc.

The, erm...... byproduct, of horses used to be collected by street urchins or other entrepreneurs and sold as fertilizer to help the urban populace grow good veg etc in their gardens. :D

And at tuppence ( :2cent: ) a bucket you'd hope it was a well packed bucket. :P

My grandfather used to tell me about following the horse drawn coal cart with a shovel to get some "good for the roses". :rolleyes:

No flies on my Granpa - he'd have charged them rent. :rofl:


dr del

mystic, pastave, or butter. Eitha way I know its a ball python lol or is it?