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Will this Co2 Tank work?

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  • 03-28-2010, 06:38 PM
    nbelval
    Will this Co2 Tank work?
    http://www.pntball.com/items/item.as...LAID=412602469

    Will this tank be able to be modified to have a on/off valve for a euthanasia tank and if so, what kind of valve (name/size), would I need to get?

    Thanks so much for any help!
  • 03-28-2010, 09:01 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    It will work, all you will need with this is a coiled remote like this http://www.pntball.com/Items/3509860...%20QD%20ON/OFF
  • 03-28-2010, 09:31 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    So with the tank and that coiled remote is there anything else needed? Therefore, you just need to attach the remote to the cooler and then it should be good to gas??? :D:D:D
  • 03-28-2010, 09:46 PM
    Stewart_Reptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    You need a

    CO2 canister
    Coiled Remote
    Kill tank (Container where you place your feeders)
    Small container (to put water)
    Airline tubing

    http://i954.photobucket.com/albums/a...s/KillTank.jpg
  • 03-28-2010, 10:34 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Thank you sooo much Deborah for the details and pic...

    Please forgive the stupid question, but why the other container, tube and water?? And is that website a good place to pick-up the canister and coiled remote? :):):)
  • 03-29-2010, 08:12 AM
    nbelval
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Great! Thanks so much. I have everything but the remote. I will order one today!

    pandp, I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong), is that the oxygen in the kill tank will get pushed out into the tank with water and it disperses in there (along with Co2) so that you aren't breathing in Co2 while you are gassing your rodents.
  • 03-29-2010, 08:26 AM
    2kdime
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    FWIW when I was gassing rodents, I never had any kind of recovery tank deal like Deborah has set up.

    I always knew that CO2 was heavier than air and would fall to the ground.

    Just my 2 cents:salute:
  • 03-29-2010, 03:37 PM
    Snakefreak64
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    how long (roughly)would that tank last and where can you refill

    thnx:)
  • 03-29-2010, 05:37 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Okay, just placed the order for the tank and coiled remote...Need to start gassing soon...
  • 03-29-2010, 09:37 PM
    Snakefreak64
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakefreak64 View Post
    how long (roughly)would that tank last and where can you refill

    thnx:)

    guess I will find out for myself ,its on the way..........lights out ratties, muwahahahahaha:rolleye2:
  • 03-30-2010, 12:09 AM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakefreak64 View Post
    guess I will find out for myself ,its on the way..........lights out ratties, muwahahahahaha:rolleye2:

    :banana::banana: Looks like someone else pulled the trigger on gas chamber equipment... Good luck to you..
  • 03-30-2010, 10:57 PM
    Snakefreak64
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pandp View Post
    :banana::banana: Looks like someone else pulled the trigger on gas chamber equipment... Good luck to you..

    and you to my friend, muwahahhah:gj:, lmao
  • 03-30-2010, 11:09 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    http://cgi.ebay.com/New-UFD-CO2-HPA-...item3caac94287

    heres the on off valve cheaper free shipping on ebay
  • 03-30-2010, 11:18 PM
    mainbutter
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakefreak64 View Post
    how long (roughly)would that tank last and where can you refill

    thnx:)

    Easy refills at any paintball shop.

    Possibly even a sporting goods store or wal-mart that sells paintball equipment?? Anyone know? Any paintballers out there get CO2 refills at sporting goods stores/wal-mart?
  • 03-31-2010, 12:06 AM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Awe man...Thanks for the ebay heads up...Already pulled the trigger and picked up the things from the website...

    However, Richard's (shortened version, since the real name will get censored) sporting goods does refills for $3.99 for a 20oz bottle...For me that convenient cause it's walking (granted a long walk) away...That was one of the deciding factors in taking the leap and getting the gear...
  • 03-31-2010, 12:08 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    I picked up 20oz tank and the remote for 41shipped fedex. And i may buy co2 in bulk as it costs like .50 to fill your own when doing bulk.
  • 03-31-2010, 08:40 AM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    I picked up 20oz tank and the remote for 41shipped fedex. And i may buy co2 in bulk as it costs like .50 to fill your own when doing bulk.

    What do you mean by buying bulk?:weirdface
  • 03-31-2010, 11:42 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Bulk means buying a large tank filled to fill smaller tanks. To do so you need to be equipped with a fill station hookup and digital scale so you dont over fill the tanks.
    http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/9...1510712168.jpg
  • 03-31-2010, 12:28 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Thanks for that picture...OMG that's a huge tank!!! I'm assuming that would cost WAY more than my soon to be little set-up?? LOL :weirdface:weirdface
  • 03-31-2010, 12:30 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pandp View Post
    Thanks for that picture...OMG that's a huge tank!!! I'm assuming that would cost WAY more than my soon to be little set-up?? LOL :weirdface:weirdface

    itll cost more at initial setup and filling, but only costs about .50 per 20oz fill considering the 3-5 at stores.
  • 03-31-2010, 08:41 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    itll cost more at initial setup and filling, but only costs about .50 per 20oz fill considering the 3-5 at stores.

    Okay Rich...Please forgive the stupid question...How much for the initial tank to get? I assume they can't be cheap?:weirdface:weirdface
  • 03-31-2010, 08:43 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Havent looked too much into it but the actual filling of co2 is cheap. Its the tank thats not.

    this link might help you a bit
    http://www.paintballforum.com/air-sy...ank-worth.html
  • 04-01-2010, 01:59 AM
    sweety314
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    My CO2 canister is smaller, (but now I need a bigger one :mad: ) and I now that our local welding shop (where I BOUGHT the darn thing) is out of business, I have to drive 45 min to the fire extinguisher business, and they'll refill it for me.

    Just remember to flow it SLOWLY! Otherwise there's too much CO2 all at once, and you're actually causing the ratties pain. :( You want them to SLEEP first, then, asphyxiated.....Sadly, the first time I did it, I did it wrong. But I know better now. Gasping is too much, too fast. :tears:
  • 04-01-2010, 10:42 AM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Can you buy tanks in sizes that are in between the mammoth size and the 20oz dinky size? Will a scuba tank work?
  • 04-01-2010, 03:09 PM
    pliskin
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pandp View Post
    Thank you sooo much Deborah for the details and pic...

    Please forgive the stupid question, but why the other container, tube and water?? And is that website a good place to pick-up the canister and coiled remote? :):):)

    the second container, water and tubing is supposed to prevent any air from going back into the kill container.

    CO2 is heavier than air , so it settles on the bottom , and when you fill the container it forces the oxygen out through the tube , the water creates a seal so the air can't go back up the tube.
  • 04-02-2010, 12:06 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pandp View Post
    Can you buy tanks in sizes that are in between the mammoth size and the 20oz dinky size? Will a scuba tank work?

    Yes you can, ebay sells 5lbs tanks
  • 04-02-2010, 12:40 PM
    tonkatoyman
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Another good source for CO2 is your local "gas" supplier. Not the gas company, but the local company that supplies oxygen, acetylene, welding gas, etc. They will fill large bottles at their place. They will even rent you a bottle.
  • 04-02-2010, 02:58 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    Yes you can, ebay sells 5lbs tanks

    I found this on the initial search...Will my coiled attachment fit on this? Would you suggest steel or aluminum? I see some aluminums on ebay for a cheaper price...

    http://cgi.ebay.com/5-LB-CARBON-DIOX...item53dc6e8ee7

    http://cgi.ebay.com/5-lb-Co2-Tank-Ke...item19bb1dedf6
  • 04-02-2010, 03:00 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    It should all co2 tanks are same size attachment/fill stations along with same threading. Be sure to ask seller for more detail on it.
  • 04-03-2010, 04:11 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakefreak64 View Post
    how long (roughly)would that tank last and where can you refill

    Just curious if anyone has figured out how long a 20oz tank like that would last...I won't be able to get mine filled till next week...:mad::mad::mad:
  • 04-03-2010, 04:22 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pandp View Post
    Just curious if anyone has figured out how long a 20oz tank like that would last...I won't be able to get mine filled till next week...:mad::mad::mad:

    No one can answer that at all. Goes by how MANY rodents you doo weekly or monthly. I pay 3.40 per 20oz tank fill up. And i get over 1 months use as i feed mice live, only use it for rats.
  • 04-04-2010, 02:34 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    well previous link to the remote valve on ebay has sold out. Sicne then hes raised his price on new link but still is free shipping, and cheaper than most stores.

    I can vouch hes good guy there as i got my valve from him.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/Extreme-Rage-CO2...22845854161514

    Heres another ad of his 19.95 free shipping

    http://cgi.ebay.com/New-UFD-CO2-HPA-...96910957523971
  • 04-18-2010, 10:30 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    OMG!!! This thing worked awesome!!!:O:O:O Just a couple of minutes and they are out and sleeping...The best things I've make (thanks everyone) in a long time...:banana::banana::banana::banana:
  • 04-19-2010, 12:00 AM
    Snakefreak64
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by pandp View Post
    OMG!!! This thing worked awesome!!!:O:O:O Just a couple of minutes and they are out and sleeping...The best things I've make (thanks everyone) in a long time...:banana::banana::banana::banana:

    sweeeeet:gj:, haven't pulled the trigger on mine yet, so a nice slow leak works good?

    thnx
  • 04-19-2010, 12:44 AM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakefreak64 View Post
    sweeeeet:gj:, haven't pulled the trigger on mine yet, so a nice slow leak works good?

    thnx

    Yep, nice and slow will keep them calm during the whole process...I might have gone too slow and possibly wasted some of the gas, but for the maiden gas, I couldn't have been happier...:gj::gj::gj:
  • 04-23-2010, 03:32 AM
    martinarquero
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Post some pics of your set up! Did you use the water container?
  • 04-26-2010, 05:52 PM
    nbelval
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Okay, this is the remote I ordered. I don't think it was quite the same as the others shown since the assembly looks twice as long.

    http://www.pntball.com/items/item.aspx?itemid=76378

    This is the one I got. I tried it today and it didn't work. I hooked it to the Co tank and it leaked out the main on/off valve. Couldn't feel any air coming out of the other end of the hose. Rats were quite happy in their kill tank. Not the effect I was looking for. Anything I'm missing, or do I have a defective remote coil?

    Thanks!
  • 05-06-2010, 02:33 PM
    Snakefreak64
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakefreak64 View Post
    sweeeeet:gj:, haven't pulled the trigger on mine yet, so a nice slow leak works good?

    thnx

    well.........used it twice, slow leak style, and after 2 uses empty:(.......now I know.In the future,I will put more down at once, the c02 goes fast!!Luckily
    its only 3 bux to refill''''

    Snakefreak64
  • 05-06-2010, 02:35 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Snakefreak64 View Post
    well.........used it twice, slow leak style, and after 2 uses empty:(.......now I know.In the future,I will put more down at once, the c02 goes fast!!Luckily
    its only 3 bux to refill''''

    Snakefreak64

    Your over using it. Ive culled 11 rat litters and only half way through my 20oz tank
  • 05-06-2010, 05:27 PM
    nbelval
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Found out, FINALLY, that mine was missing a gasket. Got it replaced, and it worked like a dream...night night ratties. I watched and they all just curled up together like it was nap time and slowly fell asleep.
  • 05-06-2010, 06:11 PM
    alohareptiles
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    I get a good couple of weeks of use before I need to refill. The C02 definitely goes quick if you need to feed off a lot of rats.
  • 05-06-2010, 09:13 PM
    Snakefreak64
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    Your over using it. Ive culled 11 rat litters and only half way through my 20oz tank

    well, I guess I am? I try to only let it whisper out, but somtimes the valve pops and woosh oops, trial and error. I will try to go waaaaaay slower, do you guys hear it when you run it, I can and I try for the faint sound....
  • 05-06-2010, 10:46 PM
    Snakefreak64
    Re: Will this Co2 Tank work?
    duh , Im probably using to big of a chamber, what size do you guys use?mine is about a 12-15gall tall.........:weirdface oooops
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