Wow! Here we go again!

WOW.. on animal planet they just had this show.. that was called aliens that kill...

it was about the burms and other exotic animals that are "taking over" FL..

basically said they need to stop the exotic pet trade and if we don't stop it now all of the US is screwed!.... well at least the last part of it that i saw was like that..

it makes me mad.. here they go again trying to scare people into making these animals illegal... i mean honestly if i didn't know what i know about these animals.. and if i didn't keep exotic pets.. then i would have completely believed everything they said on this show.. don't get me wrong i know that some of it is true.. but parts of it were just BS!...

like they said that in so many years the burms in Florida will be in around 30 other states.. which is bs... in my opinion.. cuzz in every state besides like 3-5 it gets below 0 during the winter months.. which would kill them... no doubt...

just thought i would blow off some smoke.. and see if anyone else on here saw it.. and what you all think

yeah animal planet has been demonizeing herps alot i much prefer nat geo

Anyone know how to use the search button? lol jk, but already a thread :) its in herp broadcast

Yeah thats gettin to me pretty hard to being as though im fresh in the snake world man this sucks str8 up.:sabduel::rage:

didn't Florida just experience a little bit of a cold run and most of those "aliens" are dying due to the cold temps?

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Originally Posted by Toronto Python Gurus

didn't Florida just experience a little bit of a cold run and most of those "aliens" are dying due to the cold temps?

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some have ive heard.. but there are still many there..

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Anyone know how to use the search button? lol jk, but already a thread :) its in herp broadcast

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lol... the show had just gotten over when i posted this.. so i didn't even think about that lol..

I watched a few moments of the show. When they said that if something wasn't done, these snakes and monitors would be in 36 states. They had them all the way to New York.

I wonder if they've ever heard of WINTER?
Jim Smith

ugh i know! it pisses me off soo bad...in my chem 101 class we were talking about questions that were in the SAT when we took it in HS, and she started talking about how the new popular question was the whole florida snake thing, and how snaked needed to stop being bred cause they were going to eat everything in the everglades and go up north....and i was like "excuse me mrs george, but do you OWN snakes?" and she was like "no, why?" and i was like "because if you did you would know that snakes die when its too cold outside, so if they were to go up north they would most likely die in the winter"...needless to say, she kicked me out that day for being "disrespectful" and questioning her "inteligence":mad:

Ignorance is bliss. Good for you. Maybe the teacher won't be so quick to believe what she sees or hears, but will research things before she brings it to class.

Bravo!
Jim Smith

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Originally Posted by Andrew24

some have ive heard.. but there are still many there..

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Not really. And there wasn't that many to begin with either.

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Originally Posted by maria1232

ugh i know! it pisses me off soo bad...in my chem 101 class we were talking about questions that were in the SAT when we took it in HS, and she started talking about how the new popular question was the whole florida snake thing, and how snaked needed to stop being bred cause they were going to eat everything in the everglades and go up north....and i was like "excuse me mrs george, but do you OWN snakes?" and she was like "no, why?" and i was like "because if you did you would know that snakes die when its too cold outside, so if they were to go up north they would most likely die in the winter"...needless to say, she kicked me out that day for being "disrespectful" and questioning her "inteligence":mad:

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WOW! sounds like somebody got mad that she was wrong lol!..

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ugh i know! it pisses me off soo bad...in my chem 101 class we were talking about questions that were in the SAT when we took it in HS, and she started talking about how the new popular question was the whole florida snake thing, and how snaked needed to stop being bred cause they were going to eat everything in the everglades and go up north....and i was like "excuse me mrs george, but do you OWN snakes?" and she was like "no, why?" and i was like "because if you did you would know that snakes die when its too cold outside, so if they were to go up north they would most likely die in the winter"...needless to say, she kicked me out that day for being "disrespectful" and questioning her "inteligence":mad:

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I would have gone a step further and asked if she had any remote understanding of optimal conditions for tropical species in general, and asked her what on earth would make her think they could survive in temperate environments, let alone anywhere that gets below freezing at any point in the year. Then I would have asked if she thought the same when armadillos, cattle egrets, brown anoles, and a plethora of other exotics invaded Florida decades ago. Then would have called her a hypocrite and told her to stick to chemistry and leave this subject to ecologists and herpetologists because her media-influenced opinion is worth nothing. If I'm going to be kicked out of class, I'm going to earn it. :)

hahahaa....yeah i should have, but then again....i really need that chem credit, better not piss the teach completely off...love the speech though

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hahahaa....yeah i should have, but then again....i really need that chem credit, better not piss the teach completely off...love the speech though

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Well at the university I go to, TA's do all the grading, so I don't really have to worry about pissing off the professor. I already went off on my ecology professor during lecture earlier this semester for using the USGS burm map on one of his PowerPoint slides. I discussed it with him after class and sent him the Pyron et al report, but he emailed Dr. Rodda at the USGS, and apparently is still unfortunately siding with him. Either way, he seems to respect me after it, and I really can't wait for a report to be published on the effects of the cold snap earlier this year on the feral burm population so I can rub that in his face.