Is this an enchi ??

This was sold to me as a female enchi , done my research and it seems to be an enchi i took this fast photos in dark lighting of her , sorry but wanted to post her up tonight , let me know what you think .

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/IMG_0543.jpg

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/IMG_0546.jpg

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/IMG_0551.jpg

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/IMG_0545.jpg

http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/x...s/IMG_0560.jpg

from those pics I would say no.

looks like a banded or reduced pattern normal until i get to the last photo with light eye color and distinct head pattern. Enchi :gj:

Usually i would give you a definite, but really not sure on that one.

I have a velvet that looks quite similar in coloration, but the head pattern... if I had to give an absolute I would say no. From the darker grade enchis I have seen they do not look quite like that.

Bruce

she has alot of yellow in her sides but it was dark in my basement and didnt have time to get good photos , but this is my problem they said its an enchi is yes it looks like one and has all the markens as an enchi but is it... shes 1300grams and has been cooled im thinking of breeding her to my bee and that will tell the truth...

she also has the high yellow sides with alot of white around the pattern

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Originally Posted by West Coast Jungle

from those pics I would say no.

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+1 :d

looked again... have to change that maybe no to a definite no. :(

Who sold you this female 'enchi'??

I hope passing normals off as Enchi's isn't becoming a new fad...

:( Doesn't look like an Enchi to me.

We need better pics...

. . . .breed it to the bee, see what she pops out.

When I looked at the first pic I said no but after seeing the other pics I would say yes. If you take notice of the orange coloration creeping up the sides and the banded pattern those both say Enchi to me.It could be the lighting but that looks like the worst enchi I've seen colorwise.If you snap a few pics in good lighting we could clear this up 100%

You asked, so BG is gonna give you the full answer that all his fans expect.

If it is, it's the ugliest Enchi in the history of Enchis, and Big Gunns has seen some ugly ones.

Your pics are lousy also. Take some better ones.

Listen....do you want the truth, or do you want the "nice guy answer"?

Big Gunns gives "THE TRUTH"!!!!!!!

Sorry, but sometimes BG tells his fans things they don't wanna hear.

It's a really incredible normal anyway then :cool:

definitely not an enchi

Looks like a very reduced normal to me.

I've seen similar reduced normals and this one isn't screaming Enchi to me.

If you have to ask if it is a specific morph, then it either isn't, or a very poor quality example. She is a very pretty normal, but I am going to say no to being an enchi.

Hi, its a nice animal you have there but its not an enchi.Enchis get more and more colourfull with age (actually one of the morphs that gets nicer with age), and this look like a very nice banded normal.
When you have an adult enchi, theres nearly no black pigments, only brown and yellow/orange.

a reduced pattern normal :)

Enchi Negative.

If you don't mind me asking, how much did you pay for her? You don't have to answer, but I'm curious.

:weirdface Doesn't look like an enchi to me, but like everyone else is stating we need some much better pictures...

Super nooooooooooo. Nice normal.

That cuold very well be an enchi, i've seen uglier (no offense)

Its got the head and the pattern, just very bad color :P

My honest opinion I will have to agree with most on here and say no...
The only thing that looks like Enchi to me is the head pattern...
Could be wrong but I don't think so.

Doesn't look like an enchi from here. There isn't the sharp contrast between the more bronze back colouration and yellow sides and too much dark speckling. Adult enchis look more bronze/brown/green/yellow than that. It Looks like a reduced normal.

I'll reply for the OP as I know how he ended up with his "Enchi" and the deal involved.

The suspect Enchi was traded for an 09 male Butter if I remember correctly.(if there was other animals or cash involved I'm unaware of it)

The Butter was then traded to me for my 09 male Super Pastel. The person trading the Enchi has since dropped off the face of the earth along with any hopes of verifying the background of the snake.

I do have to agree with most and say by the pics alone it's not an Enchi but the head pattern says otherwise.

If and when the OP gets new pics they will be posted to help the confusion.

(I hope your okay with me replying Jon)

Thanks,
Gavin Cooper.

Wow, a butter for that? Sorry but that couldn't possibly be an enchi. I guess I haven't seen any of these "ugly" enchis that everybody talks about. Both mine are a VERY vibrant yellow ( brighter than my pastels ) mixed with a copper/gold speckling. Also they both have a very distinct jungle pattern, and extreme blushing. I don't know if mine are just awesome enchis ( if so thanks Mike Caranente from maballs.net, and some guy at the Rocky Mountain Reptile Expo ), but I'd say they would be what I'd expect as an enchi.

Anyway it sucks to get ripped off. I just paid $750 for the lowest quality cinnamon bp on earth :mad:

But on a brighter side she's the sweetest ball python I own, and she is a great "pet". So.... I guess it just gets marked up as a newbie mistake. Trust me it wont happen twice.