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  • 03-14-2010, 12:11 AM
    bamf64
    my bp going under newspaper?
    Pheobe has been being annoying lately by somehow manuvering herself under the newspaper i have as her substrate. Its concerning me because im afraid she could get burned if she isnt able to get out. this happens every day when i get home from school. Her temps are 88 on warm side around 70 on cool.

    should i switch to aspen?.. or keep newspaper?
  • 03-14-2010, 12:15 AM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    if hottest spot she can get to is 88 then you have no worries. Most dont get burned till temps reach 97+, and thats for a long exposure time.


    some love going under the paper some dont. Nothing wrong with it, let her do what she wants.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:18 AM
    bamf64
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    thanks! im still going to switch to aspen because im getting some for free :)
  • 03-14-2010, 12:23 AM
    steveboos
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Yeah some like to hide and thats one of the bst ways to do it. Also they can get out no issue, they are all muscle and its just some newspaper!
  • 03-14-2010, 12:46 AM
    lesserlover
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Aspen is free to start but will become another fee later.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:49 AM
    mpkeelee
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    if she is on top of newspaper or underneath it the temp shouldnt change, and if ur worried about her getting burned then turn the UTH down.

    my lil guy does that once in a while. they wont get stuck there, they got in they can get out when they r ready
  • 03-14-2010, 01:41 AM
    OzarkMountainBalls
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Aspen is not free but is definatly a good substrate. I like newspaper because it is free although i have been told aspen holds humidity better.
  • 03-14-2010, 02:54 AM
    Monty
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    i have 2 that do that and i decided to take out the hides since they pushed them aside everytime and i havent had any problems with feeding or shedding i'm not recommending this however it does work for me and my snakes
  • 03-14-2010, 12:01 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    I would raise your hot spot to the low 90's. She is probably trying to get closer to the heat source. 88* is pretty cool for a hot spot.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:13 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    88 is perfect for ambient temperature on the warm end, which is what the op says it is,
    but 70 is cooler than I'd have it on the cool end.
    I try to keep my cool end at 78 to 80 degrees.

    I see no mention of a hot spot temp :confused:
  • 03-14-2010, 12:20 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by snakesRkewl View Post
    88 is perfect for ambient temperature on the warm end, which is what the op says it is,
    but 70 is cooler than I'd have it on the cool end.
    I try to keep my cool end at 78 to 80 degrees.

    I see no mention of a hot spot temp :confused:

    generally when people list their warm side temp, its the temp of the UTH.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:21 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    I would raise your hot spot to the low 90's. She is probably trying to get closer to the heat source. 88* is pretty cool for a hot spot.

    88 is perfectly fine for ball pythons warm side. the 90-94 we recommend is what we all know works but 88 is just as fine.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:22 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    generally when people list their warm side temp, its the temp of the UTH.

    Really?
    Most people tend to say the hot spot temp when quoting a belly heat temperature.

    Since there is 3 temperatures to know, when a person doesn't say they are talking about the "hot spot" it generally means they are speaking of the ambient temperature.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:37 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RichsBallPythons View Post
    88 is perfectly fine for ball pythons warm side. the 90-94 we recommend is what we all know works but 88 is just as fine.

    My point was that if the snake is going under the paper towel, it might want to get more heat. That is why I suggested raising the temp.

    In my opinion, 88 is too low for the hot spot.

    I am pretty sure the OP is talking about the hot spot right on the UTH if I remember correctly.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:39 PM
    snakesRkewl
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    In my opinion, 88 is too low for the hot spot.

    I agree, especially if your trying to get the ambient temperature in the tub up to what it needs to be.

    I keep my "hot spots" at about 92 :)
  • 03-14-2010, 12:41 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: my bp going under newspaper?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    My point was that if the snake is going under the paper towel, it might want to get more heat. That is why I suggested raising the temp.

    In my opinion, 88 is too low for the hot spot.

    I am pretty sure the OP is talking about the hot spot right on the UTH if I remember correctly.

    88F or 90 is not that noticable of a difference. But 88 is what most breeders keep them at when using room temp and not hot spot. VPI is one that comes to mind that keeps room 88 with no hot spot. Each snake is different and not all require exactly 90-94. They thrive well in the high 80s to low 90s with a 77-80 cool side.
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