Normal females

well im new to all this ball breeding and I see lots of people with lots of morphs still have 1 if not multiple "normal" females, why?......... I mean I know for breeding, but wouldnt you do better to cross morphs and exclude a :normal:?anyway thnx and great site!

snakefreak64

p.s the genetics thing makes my pea brain hurt, :rolleye2:,lol

I think the fact that you can pick a breedable female up for next to nothing makes them a great investment. Just my 2 cents.

correct me if i'm wrong, but i would assume breeders keep normal females for their co-dom/dom breedings. since breeding those to a normal yields 50/50 normal/morph (according to the odds)

i.e. pastel x normal gets 50% normal and 50% pastel

I'm not breeding yet but in my plans i have set in there to buy normal females that are over 2500 grams. Because larger skanes produce more eggs. So insted of hoping for 6 or 8 eggs, you can hope for 11 or 12 eggs. Plus you can pull different traits out of snakes with 3, 4, 5 morphs in them when you breed to a normal. Then there is always the dinker projects normals that have somthing different to them and you want to see if its a genetic thing. Those will be some of my reasons to buy females when I'm deep into breeding.

Responsible breeders will always keep normal females for outcrossing and proving morphs. A breeding age female normal, while not expensive, is worth her weight in gold to keep morph lines strong and for proving out new or unproven morphs and morph combos.

Gale

The simple answer is Super Males!!! when producing base morphs to sale I like to know what I'm getting so a Super Pastel male bred to 3 normals at 6 eggs each I know with out a doubt that I'm getting 18 pastels.. this also reduces the number of females one male has to breed..With breeding a Male super to say a female spider I have no clue how many are going to be Bee's and how many are going to be jsut regular pastels..

interesting, I knew there was method to the madness.........:P

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Originally Posted by Whoodnballs

I'm not breeding yet but in my plans i have set in there to buy normal females that are over 2500 grams. Because larger skanes produce more eggs. So insted of hoping for 6 or 8 eggs, you can hope for 11 or 12 eggs. Plus you can pull different traits out of snakes with 3, 4, 5 morphs in them when you breed to a normal. .

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thats not always true. You want a female that is the proper weight for her size. Overweight girls will give you more slugs than viable eggs. At least that is my understanding of it.

You also need those normal girls to help you figure out those one of a kind multi-combo's. Breed that 4 or 5 gene combo to a normal and see what morphs made up the combo if you're not sure what's in the mix.

They can also be useful in proving out a dinker.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

You also need those normal girls to help you figure out those one of a kind multi-combo's. Breed that 4 or 5 gene combo to a normal and see what morphs made up the combo if you're not sure what's in the mix.

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thats what im talking about, very informative, I knew there was a reason people with multiple morphs ALWAYS seem to have a few normals also:gj:

thnx everyone :D, great site.........

If you buy a higher end morph, like right now deserts are around 3k, you could breed to a normal and still have half deserts.... if bred to large spider female you could produce a few normals a few spiders a few deserts and a few desert spiders, dont get me wrong i like the idea of multiple mutations, but if i am fortunate enough to pick up a desert next year, i will plug into a normal female as well as a spider female......

I will always have at least 1 normal female because they are fun to work with :gj:.

Put a champagne male to a adult normal female, if you're lucky, the champagne will pay his rent in a year's time.

Because...you have to start somewhere.

I have one normal that is reduced that Im using to clean up genes, and I have one which throws early clutches.