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  • 03-07-2010, 04:02 PM
    ramz7887
    how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    any idea?
  • 03-07-2010, 04:12 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ramz7887 View Post
    any idea?

    Do you mean right after they hatch?

    What I did for my corns, and what I intend to do with my ball pythons is keep them all in one tub until they shed their first time. Then I separate them all and give a go at feeding.

    If you're referring to any other time, I don't recommend having them in the same container at all.

    :gj:
  • 03-07-2010, 04:19 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by ramz7887 View Post
    any idea?

    i kept them in the same tub from hatch date till 1st shed, some people give them their own tub from the time they hatch out, i will most likely do the same this year.
  • 03-07-2010, 06:55 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Baby balls will occasionally eat each other, and they start eating a few days after their first shed, so any time after that is simply not worth the risk.
  • 03-08-2010, 07:28 AM
    sum182
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Baby balls will occasionally eat each other, and they start eating a few days after their first shed, so any time after that is simply not worth the risk.


    ^^^learn somethin new everyday
  • 03-08-2010, 08:35 AM
    j_h_smith
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Once they're out of there eggs, I clean them up after a day or two. At that point I weigh them. After weighing them, I put them in their own tubs.

    Jim Smith
  • 03-08-2010, 09:03 AM
    Wh00h0069
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Baby balls will occasionally eat each other, and they start eating a few days after their first shed, so any time after that is simply not worth the risk.

    I have never heard of that.
  • 03-08-2010, 10:17 AM
    retic720
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    What many caresheets won't tell you (not the author's fault...coz there IS something new to learn almost everyday!!!) is that some snakes have cannibalistic tendencies...and we're not talking about kings and king cobras here!

    http://www.herpcenter.com/snakes-gen...-together.html

    A few posts down, you could see a ball python who ate his cage mate (another ball), a boa constrictor who ate his ball python cagemate and a corn snake (???) who ate another corn snake.

    The risk, although it CAN be small, is just too....unpleasant to deal with.
  • 03-08-2010, 10:20 AM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by WingedWolfPsion View Post
    Baby balls will occasionally eat each other, and they start eating a few days after their first shed, so any time after that is simply not worth the risk.

    Really..how many times have you had this happen??
  • 03-08-2010, 10:26 AM
    rabernet
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Freakie_frog View Post
    Really..how many times have you had this happen??

    I've never had that happen. :confused:
  • 03-08-2010, 11:02 AM
    j_h_smith
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    I'm not saying it can't happen, but I've never seen or heard of this before.

    Jim Smith
  • 03-08-2010, 12:38 PM
    rabernet
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retic720 View Post
    What many caresheets won't tell you (not the author's fault...coz there IS something new to learn almost everyday!!!) is that some snakes have cannibalistic tendencies...and we're not talking about kings and king cobras here!

    http://www.herpcenter.com/snakes-gen...-together.html

    A few posts down, you could see a ball python who ate his cage mate (another ball), a boa constrictor who ate his ball python cagemate and a corn snake (???) who ate another corn snake.

    The risk, although it CAN be small, is just too....unpleasant to deal with.

    That photo is the ONLY one I've ever seen of a ball eating a ball. But I've never seen any other photos, nor heard of any first hand experience from any of our members (now numbering over 15K registered members on this site alone).

    I keep my hatchlings together until their first feed, and then I separate them. I've had no issues doing so.
  • 03-08-2010, 01:39 PM
    Big Gunns
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Most breeders BG knows will put a whole clutch in a container until their first shed. Then they will separate them.

    If you're talking about how long they can live in a particular cage. Well that all depends on how big it is to begin with and how fast they grow. Just use some common sense.
  • 03-08-2010, 05:50 PM
    FIEND_FO_LYFE
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    They are only in the same tub for a day or less here...

    They get cleaned weighed, and labeled.
    Then off to their very own tub...
  • 03-08-2010, 05:57 PM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    I personally separate them after they hatch. I see no reason to keep them all in the same enclosure for a week if I'm going to separate them all after that anyway. I also like to get them sexed and give them ID numbers as early as possible. Just my preference.
  • 03-08-2010, 07:15 PM
    Big Gunns
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    Most breeders BG knows will put a whole clutch in a container until their first shed. Then they will separate them.

    If you're talking about how long they can live in a particular cage. Well that all depends on how big it is to begin with and how fast they grow. Just use some common sense.

    BG meant how long one snake can live in a particular cage with his second comment in case anyone is confused.
  • 03-08-2010, 11:43 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by retic720 View Post
    What many caresheets won't tell you (not the author's fault...coz there IS something new to learn almost everyday!!!) is that some snakes have cannibalistic tendencies...and we're not talking about kings and king cobras here!

    http://www.herpcenter.com/snakes-gen...-together.html

    A few posts down, you could see a ball python who ate his cage mate (another ball), a boa constrictor who ate his ball python cagemate and a corn snake (???) who ate another corn snake.

    The risk, although it CAN be small, is just too....unpleasant to deal with.

    The risk.......

    The risk is........

    The risk is infinitesimal..........
  • 03-08-2010, 11:48 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Big Gunns View Post
    BG meant how long one snake can live in a particular cage with his second comment in case anyone is confused.

    The question is:

    How long can one snake live in a cage with an 8' long/80 pound water monitor?
  • 03-09-2010, 12:33 AM
    retic720
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    I guess it now all boils down to OP's decision...at least we did present to him the two sides of the coin.

    @OP: listen to Rabernet....I read her posts on BP keeping way back in repticzone....she's one of the reasons why my sickly ball python juvie is now a very healthy but lazy couch potato :D
  • 03-10-2010, 09:18 PM
    Big Gunns
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    The question is:

    How long can one snake live in a cage with an 8' long/80 pound water monitor?


    It all depends on whether this monitor is fictional or not.:D
  • 03-29-2010, 01:40 PM
    ramz7887
    Re: how long can baby pythons be in the same container?
    I was thinking about how long the babies could stay together after birth. I'm in the process of building my first rack system and was wondering how many spaces should i need. I figured if I have a breeding pair they should have about 4-6 babies on average so i was thinking of a 8 rack system.
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