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Selling Feeders

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  • 03-06-2010, 03:40 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Selling Feeders
    Prices here for feeders are getting so high. If I want somewhat "cheap" feeders, I have to drive 30 minutes to a reptile store and 30 minutes back and even then, the feeders are often sick (though he always has the right size). The other option is to go to a pet store on the other side of town but their prices are so high and they don't carry live mice or anything smaller than a small rat, live. Even if they did, live prices are through the roof. A small rat (which is little more than a wean) is $4. A "medium" is $5! Frozens are just a little less, smalls being $3.30 a piece. The man at the store is always trying to get me to buy the mediums which are only around 100g or so (100g is what I need for my girls but they are soooo expensive. $4-5 each for 4 females. That's $16-20 a week just to feed four of my snakes!)

    So I came up with a solution. Breed my own. And so far I've managed to get one litter of rats (I'm saving all females I produce until I get a nice colony going) and 3 litters of mice. I just bought a 50lb bag of Mazuri and its going to last me a few months with as few breeders/feeders as I have now, but hopefully my colony will start to grow. So I can easily provide my own, healthy, properly sized, humanely raised, feeders for less than $50 a month. (as opposed to spending $130-140 a month on feeders)

    Then the thought came to me. What about other people in the area who have to rely on places like Petco ($2.50ish per small mouse) and the reptile store I go to. I thought, maybe I can sell extras to people around town. Would it be a good idea to make this into a small business? And would these prices seem fair?

    Prices for mice:

    0.10 per pinky mouse
    0.20 per fuzzy mouse
    0.30 per hopper mouse
    0.50 per mouse wean (3-4 weeks of age)
    1.00 per adult mouse (20+g)

    Prices for rats:
    0.20 per pinky rat
    0.40 per fuzzy rat
    0.50 per rat pup
    1.00 per rat wean (3-4 weeks of age)
    1.50 per small rat (up to 100g)
    2.00 per medium rat (up to 200g)

    And for those of you that sell to local people, how do you get the feeders to the customer? Meet somewhere? Deliver them to their house? Have them come pick them up? When selling frozen, do you just freeze them in ziplock bags or do you use vacuum "food saver" type bags?

    I'm far from being able to sell surplus feeders but I want to get an idea on how to best do this.
  • 03-06-2010, 03:44 PM
    suzuki4life
    Re: Selling Feeders
    those are wholesale prices...you need to raise them a bit...
  • 03-06-2010, 03:57 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Selling Feeders
    This is the price list for the place I get my feeders from:

    Mice
    - Pinkie - $1.25
    - Fuzzie - $1.25
    - Hopper - $1.50
    - Adult - $1.75

    Rats
    - Pinkie - $2
    - Fuzzie - $2
    - Pup - $2.50
    - Small - $3.50
    - Medium - $5
    - Large - $6
    - Jumbo - $7

    I buy two small rats and two hoppers a week. Needless to say, if I were in your area I would be knocking on your door all the time to get feeders, lol.

    This business sells feeders, all sorts of reptiles, and reptile supplies. I think their main income is from feeders, hence the prices. But, it's the cheapest place in town.
  • 03-06-2010, 05:27 PM
    Jt.
    Re: Selling Feeders
    I hear you on the ridiculous feeder prices. My local pet store sells pinkies for $2.99 a piece.

    And I also think your prices are too cheap. You want them cheap enough for people to buy from you over the other places but you still want to charge enough to make it worth your while.

    I charge a little less than the local pet store.
  • 03-06-2010, 07:44 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Ok, I will bring them up some, but not too much. I don't want to be charging an arm and leg like the pet store. I know I would love it if I could buy heathy, properly sized rodents at a fraction of what I buy them for now so that is something I would like to give to people in the area. Rats that are free from wounds, disease, infections (I have gotten rats like this as feeders.) and don't cost you so much. Maybe something like this?

    Mouse:

    Pinkies - 0.25
    Fuzzies - 0.50
    Hoppers - 0.75
    Weans - $1.00
    Adults - $1.50

    Rats:

    Pinkies - $1.00
    Fuzzies - $1.50 (2 weeks old)
    Weans - $1.75 (3 weeks old)
    Smalls - $2.00 (up to 100g)
    Mediums - $3.00 (up to 200g)
    Large - $4.00 (250g +)
    Jumbo - $5.00 (retired breeders)

    What about getting the feeders to the customer? Deliver them? Have them come to you?
  • 03-06-2010, 08:00 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Pretty awesome price list! I would have people come to you. All the places I've seen on CL have advertised that they can deliver but you can also go pick them up. There's one person that sells frozen around here, he drives along the highways in a big O once a week and has people from whatever town he's in stop by when he's there and gets a week supply of f/t.
  • 03-07-2010, 12:41 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Very cool. I guess I could offer delivery on big orders that are a short driving distance. I put an ad up a while ago with the first price list to see if anyone would even be interested (I stated in the ad that I currently wasn't selling and that I was seeing if there was a demand for feeders in my area) I've gotten 5-6 emails from people needing feeders. With this kind of interest, I might go ahead and build up my colony to the point that I can be producing extras for sale. Now, how many breeders do I need?...Haha. Well I'll be doing some math today, thats for sure.
  • 03-07-2010, 01:13 PM
    771subliminal
    Re: Selling Feeders
    this is the price list where i get my feeders from all her frozen come individually vacuum sealed

    Mouse ............. Live........................ Frozen
    Pinkie .............$ 0.25 .............$ 0.20
    Hopper ............. $ 0.45 .............$ 0.40
    Weanling ............. $ 0.65 .............$ 0.60
    Adult ............. $ 0.80 ............. $ 0.75
    Jumbo .............$ 1.00 ............. $ 0.80

    Rat ............. Live ............. Frozen
    Pinkie ............. $ 0.45 ............. $ 0.35
    Fuzzy ............. $ 0.55 ............. $ 0.45
    Pup ............. $ 0.65 ............. $ 0.60
    Weanling ............. $ 0.80 ............. $ 0.75
    Small ............. $ 1.25 ............. $ 1.10
    Medium ............. $ 1.75 .............$ 1.60
    Large ............. $ 2.25 .............$ 2.10
    Jumbo ............. $ 4.00 ............. $ 2.50

    ASF ............. Live .............Frozen
    Pinkie .............$ 0.35 ............. $ 0.30
    Hopper ............. $ 0.50 ............. $ 0.45
    Weanling ............. $ 1.00 ............. $ 0.75
    Adult ............. $ 2.00 ............. $ 1.75
    Jumbo ............. $ 3.50 ............. $ 3.25
  • 03-07-2010, 01:16 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Selling Feeders
    I wish I could get my hands on some ASF! Apparently, they are illegal here. :mad:
  • 03-07-2010, 01:19 PM
    RichsBallPythons
    Re: Selling Feeders
    When i get over ran i sell my Mice no matter what size .50

    My rats no matter what size 1.00 and i have non stop ppl coming back week by week.
  • 03-07-2010, 02:06 PM
    suzuki4life
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    I wish I could get my hands on some ASF! Apparently, they are illegal here. :mad:


    maybe that is why so many people came from VA to get ASF from me :D
  • 03-07-2010, 04:15 PM
    kc261
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    I wish I could get my hands on some ASF! Apparently, they are illegal here. :mad:

    Where did you hear that ASF are illegal in VA? A while ago I looked into it and couldn't find any info either way.
  • 03-07-2010, 04:31 PM
    pavlovk1025
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Its me VS a pet store here for ASFs, and I have the best quality and prices. I dont advertise really, but people find me through a website where I listed that I have ASFs. I sell trios for breeding for 20, pinkies through weaners for 1 dollar, and anything thats in a grow out tub for 3 bucks.
  • 03-07-2010, 04:51 PM
    boasandballs
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    Ok, I will bring them up some, but not too much. I don't want to be charging an arm and leg like the pet store. I know I would love it if I could buy heathy, properly sized rodents at a fraction of what I buy them for now so that is something I would like to give to people in the area. Rats that are free from wounds, disease, infections (I have gotten rats like this as feeders.) and don't cost you so much. Maybe something like this?

    Mouse:

    Pinkies - 0.25
    Fuzzies - 0.50
    Hoppers - 0.75
    Weans - $1.00
    Adults - $1.50

    Rats:

    Pinkies - $1.00
    Fuzzies - $1.50 (2 weeks old)
    Weans - $1.75 (3 weeks old)
    Smalls - $2.00 (up to 100g)
    Mediums - $3.00 (up to 200g)
    Large - $4.00 (250g +)
    Jumbo - $5.00 (retired breeders)

    What about getting the feeders to the customer? Deliver them? Have them come to you?

    Before you do to much, check you local laws. In Colorado if you sell over 200 you have to get a PACFA license. Also there are areas that it is illegal to breed rodents, and in some areas it is illegal to have any constrictors. (Yes it sucks) But when you put an add on CL you could bite off more than you want. There was a guy that posted a dumeral on cl and he got busted. They got a warrant and came in and took everything but 5 exotics and everything over 2 feet.
  • 03-07-2010, 05:18 PM
    matt71915
    Re: Selling Feeders
    This is my list
    weaner 1.00
    small 1.50
    medium 2.00
    large 3.00

    In my area I'm the cheapest and I have healthy rats. I do have a lot of customers but none are really all that consistent.The majority of my sales are pets and very small amounts, for a couple of snakes. They always want bulk priced on a small amount of rats. Then I say no and they get frustrated and go somewhere else. To me I don't breed enough to sell any amount at a bulk price.
  • 03-07-2010, 10:43 PM
    lamina1982
    Re: Selling Feeders
    I charge $1 for smalls and meds, advertise on craigslist and rarely get sales. I have a couple soso regulars and 1 pet store that buys once -twice a month. I know my prices are damn cheap but troubles selling. I even deliver-not sure what prob around me is as not any good stores or feeders and most $3-6. But at least I do sell occassionally
  • 03-08-2010, 12:03 PM
    Jay_Bunny
    Re: Selling Feeders
    I was told that ASFs were illegal in Virginia from someone on here actually. I have found nothing online about it but I did contact a local reptile store. They are selling males as feeders. Apparently he had to get permission to just sell them as feeders and he's not allowed to sell females. (Trust me, I've asked) I would love to be able to breed ASFs, but I wouldn't know where to get them.
  • 03-08-2010, 12:23 PM
    suzuki4life
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    I was told that ASFs were illegal in Virginia from someone on here actually. I have found nothing online about it but I did contact a local reptile store. They are selling males as feeders. Apparently he had to get permission to just sell them as feeders and he's not allowed to sell females. (Trust me, I've asked) I would love to be able to breed ASFs, but I wouldn't know where to get them.


    next time I come south, I'll be in touch with you ;)
  • 03-08-2010, 01:05 PM
    dembonez
    Re: Selling Feeders
    i pay $1.50 for a mouse pinky at my pet store = /
  • 03-08-2010, 01:07 PM
    dembonez
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Jay_Bunny View Post
    I was told that ASFs were illegal in Virginia from someone on here actually. I have found nothing online about it but I did contact a local reptile store. They are selling males as feeders. Apparently he had to get permission to just sell them as feeders and he's not allowed to sell females. (Trust me, I've asked) I would love to be able to breed ASFs, but I wouldn't know where to get them.

    can u order a live one online anywhere?
  • 03-08-2010, 01:15 PM
    dnnsfam
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Those are the same prices I pay at a small reptile shop here too. I can only get frozen from the big stores.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elise.m View Post
    This is the price list for the place I get my feeders from:

    Mice
    - Pinkie - $1.25
    - Fuzzie - $1.25
    - Hopper - $1.50
    - Adult - $1.75

    Rats
    - Pinkie - $2
    - Fuzzie - $2
    - Pup - $2.50
    - Small - $3.50
    - Medium - $5
    - Large - $6
    - Jumbo - $7

    I buy two small rats and two hoppers a week. Needless to say, if I were in your area I would be knocking on your door all the time to get feeders, lol.

    This business sells feeders, all sorts of reptiles, and reptile supplies. I think their main income is from feeders, hence the prices. But, it's the cheapest place in town.

  • 03-08-2010, 04:28 PM
    boasandballs
    Re: Selling Feeders
    No, we use to ship live. But times have changed and now you need a health cert to ship live unless you are a lab.
  • 03-22-2010, 07:03 PM
    rodentmanward
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Wow some of the prices are pretty low there in the states. here are my prices here in Canada, you can check out my pricing on my website at
    www.nearnorthrodents.com

    I have been told that some of my prices are the most reasonable in Canada
    Nice to meet all of you

    Robert Ward
  • 03-22-2010, 07:12 PM
    moravaguy
    Re: Selling Feeders
    these are my prices:

    Mice frozen
    pink- .25 2-3 grams
    fuzzy-.30 3-7 grams
    crawler-.50 7-10 grams
    small-.75 10-16 grams
    med- .80 16-25 grams
    large- .90 25-35 grams
    jmbo-1.00 35-45 grams

    RATS frozen
    pink- .75 4-10 grams
    fuzzy- .85 10-20 grams
    pup- 1.00 20-30 grams
    weaned- 1.50 30-45 grams
    small- 2.00 50-75 grams
    medium- 2.50 100-195 grams
    large- 3.00 200-295 grams
    jumbo- 3.50 300-395 grams
    super jumbo- 4.50 400-600 grams

    im not sure about live prices but they arent much more and always healthy:gj:
  • 03-22-2010, 08:22 PM
    dr del
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Guys, please.

    Can we leave the sales patter out of the posts?

    A request for general pricing is ok to respond to but if the self promotion part kicks in then the post will have to be deleted for breaking the advertising rules.


    dr del
  • 03-22-2010, 09:19 PM
    moravaguy
    Re: Selling Feeders
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Guys, please.

    Can we leave the sales patter out of the posts?

    A request for general pricing is ok to respond to but if the self promotion part kicks in then the post will have to be deleted for breaking the advertising rules.


    dr del



    i didnt realize i was trying to sale anything....i was just posting what i get them for and i was giving the "general price" i get.
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