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Question about GTP or ETB

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  • 03-03-2010, 07:11 PM
    Emohooker
    Question about GTP or ETB
    What are the major diffrences between the 2...Anything other then size of the head.

    Which would you choose.

    im looking to finish doing resarch but cant find any real diffrnces on them. and I really really want one.
  • 03-03-2010, 07:18 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    one gives live birth, the other lays eggs for starters.

    besides being green and white, having different neo colors, and living in trees thats about where it ends.

    size of the head, heat pits on ETB are bigger, gtp lay eggs, ETB patterns are white stripes most of the time while gtps white is random scales, gtps come in many assorted colors besides green and white

    just look at a picture side by side, they don't look that close that you can't tell them apart
  • 03-03-2010, 07:23 PM
    Aeries
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    GTP:
    Indonesia, Northern Austrailia
    Can be yellow as neonates
    Pits set in scales
    Smaller head scales
    3-5ft

    ETB:
    South America
    Can't be yellow as a neonate
    Pits border scales
    Larger head scales
    6-7ft
  • 03-03-2010, 07:25 PM
    Emohooker
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Would you suggest getting one over the other?
  • 03-03-2010, 09:30 PM
    Warocker's Wife
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Emohooker View Post
    Would you suggest getting one over the other?

    I am personally am more fond of GTP but emerald are amazing reptiles. its really just a personal choice.
  • 03-03-2010, 11:21 PM
    Emohooker
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    I think ill look for GTPs :D haha thanks for all the help yall.
  • 03-06-2010, 09:21 PM
    DavidG
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Emeralds have bigger teeth too! I can't believe no one pointed that out! :D

    You can find chondro care sheets every where but a good emerald one is hard to come by.

    http://www.kingsnake.com/emeralds/

    I will admit, I did not read it all but it seems like pretty ligit information.
    Emeralds are the only ones (so far) that can be born green (really rare) and just grow up without changing.
  • 03-07-2010, 11:24 AM
    olstyn
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DavidG View Post
    Emeralds have bigger teeth too! I can't believe no one pointed that out! :D

    No kidding! IIRC they have the largest teeth of any non-venomous snake relative to their body size. Especially the first few in the front are just HUGE relative to the size of their head. Check out this picture of an ETB skull I found with google - the teeth are just amazing.
  • 03-07-2010, 06:36 PM
    leper65
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
  • 03-07-2010, 06:46 PM
    DrLew
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    News Flash - ALL SNAKES HAVE TEETH!

    I'm sure if I held someone by the neck like this pic - they wouldn't be too happy either!

    I am lucky enough to have both in my collection, and while you can't just reach in there like you would a BP, they are handleable and both are great display animals as well!
  • 03-07-2010, 10:46 PM
    olstyn
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrLew View Post
    News Flash - ALL SNAKES HAVE TEETH!

    Well, obviously, but you can't deny that ETBs have impressive dentition. :)
  • 03-08-2010, 03:16 AM
    leper65
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DrLew View Post
    News Flash - ALL SNAKES HAVE TEETH!

    News Flash: No sugar Sherlock. Just posting the best picture I've seen of the teeth on a ETB. I did not comment on handle-ability...and I certainly don't endorse the grip the guys got on the ETB. I'm sure it wasn't happy...I hope he got a piece of the guy actually.
  • 04-07-2010, 09:24 AM
    Russ Lawson
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Aeries View Post
    GTP:
    Indonesia, Northern Austrailia
    Can be yellow as neonates
    Pits set in scales
    Smaller head scales
    3-5ft

    ETB:
    South America
    Can't be yellow as a neonate
    Pits border scales
    Larger head scales
    6-7ft

    The bold bit isn't true. While much more rare than red or green, there have been yellow neonate ETB's. There are a few pics here: http://www.d-g-s.com/daemons/morphs.htm
  • 04-07-2010, 12:26 PM
    bman123
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Gtp are more sensitive to handling when they are younger. They are easier to care for then etb. I like etb more due to the pattern, some have thick white stripes but the teeth are huge. Just don't stick your hand in there at night time. And you should be ok
  • 04-07-2010, 07:52 PM
    Mettle
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    I find that GTPs are much more adept at moving about when off their purches versus ETBs. When my ETB comes off her perch, she's a bit of a flailing mess to be honest. Not graceful. Almost seems panicked. To watch her in her enclosure, she's graceful. But in over a year of owning her I have only ever caught her fully on the ground once... My friend's GTPs both seem to cruise the entire tank at night, ground included, and are much more graceful when handled.

    Yes, as it turns out, I have a super handleable ETB and she has two very handleable GTPs. :D

    There seems to be more variety and locales when it comes to GTPs. There isn't a whole lot of variation when it comes to the ETBs.

    Regardless, avoid fresh imports in both cases and buy only from reputable breeders.
  • 04-08-2010, 11:35 PM
    AdamM
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
  • 04-11-2010, 07:40 PM
    bman123
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    I like the etb more due to the color and pattern but i would get a gtp first. Just due to the teeth size of the etb that's all. I think the the gtp are easier to care for bit if you want to breed the etb would be easier due to bearing live birth.

    It's really up to you, they can both be had for around $350 low end from a reputable breeder so price isn't really a issue. Etb does get bigger length and width and bigger teeth. Maybe look into a ATP instead..
  • 04-12-2010, 09:15 PM
    Mettle
    Re: Question about GTP or ETB
    Quote:
    I didn't say there was no variation in etbs. However, that link proves my point exactly. You're getting different shades of green and variations with the white markings, some black in there. With gtps you get yellows, blues, greens and whites, and in a variety of different combinations and looks. There is a ton more variation.
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