so yeah

So please ignore the fact I look like hell in this pic....the snake around me is an indian/burm cross I've been trying to get rid of unfortunately I am extremely picking about who takes her, not to mention she is mean as hell I love her to death but I really don't think she can be tamed~ she did mu8sk all over me right after this shot I knew it was coming





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No Thanks LOL

She's pretty!

Oh took me a second to see the snake..

she is gorgeous but nothing I have tried has worked not even letting her bite the heck out of me....her past owner was scared to death of her and I have begun to wonder if that fed her ego.....and that pic was taken right before she went into shed she's like two to three shadeds lighter

Like with all animals some snakes are just more skiddish and defensive around humans. She may never calm down. Try and think about things from her vantage point and perspective. Look a things and situations that we might not think is stress full but a scared snake finds terrifying. For example going into shed, after a feed, ect. You may simply want to leave her be only feeding and water and cleaning her for a few weeks even months. Then slowly start earning her trust.

Be prepared you might never have a tame snake..

that is all I do anymore and just merely walking by her cage she strikes out it's insane I have not seen retics like this. everything I do with her is on a have to basis I cover her whole body with a pillow case when I ave to go into her cage in and out in 30 sec

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I have not seen retics like this.

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This statement, is ridiculous on so many levels. :thumbsdow

I haven't I've seen retics with strong feeding responses but nothing like this girl you can take her out and she'll musk about half a cup faeces pee you name it put her back 30 min later do it again same amount never have I seen a retic do this.........

Your implying that retics are like that...?
Thats a pretty bold statement...

no I simply said I've never seen retics like this....she isn't a retic there is really no reason for her to be so aggressive....it's not a feed response

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no I simply said I've never seen retics like this....she isn't a retic there is really no reason for her to be so aggressive....it's not a feed response

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I think u are comparing apples to oranges :rolleye2:

and this is a banana :banana::banana::banana::banana:

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no I simply said I've never seen retics like this....she isn't a retic there is really no reason for her to be so aggressive....it's not a feed response

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Its not a retic, so why on earth are you comparing it to one?
It sounds like you are making retics out to be big bad snakes....
which they already have a bad rep, so why further the stereotype?

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Its not a retic, so why on earth are you comparing it to one?
It sounds like you are making retics out to be big bad snakes....
which they already have a bad rep, so why further the stereotype?

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Sort of like news articles making Afrocks out to be evil and out for blood after some were found in south Florida, mostly implying that through hybrid vigor (which I believe is a severely flawed theory) that they'll hybridize to form a super snake that will get bigger and super mean, in spite of captive breeding efforts for the same hybrid which completely contradict that idea.

For any species, if there aren't many in captivity, they are likely to be a bit more aggressive than those that have been bred for several generations, simply due to the higher number of WC animals people are working with. Does that mean that it is an aggressive species by nature? No. Someone's got to start somewhere with any species. Neither retics nor afrocks are aggressive by default. I've seen examples of each (many more so with retics) that were baby dolls and a pleasure to work with. I'm under the firm belief that pretty much any species with regular handling from a young age will be very handleable at somewhat larger sizes.

All that said, she is a beautiful snake, and hopefully with some more work and patience, you will at least get her used enough to handling for it not cause her to get defensive.

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Its not a retic, so why on earth are you comparing it to one?
It sounds like you are making retics out to be big bad snakes....
which they already have a bad rep, so why further the stereotype?

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I don't think she meant anything negative by it.


Anyway, I had an evil pet BCI and what I did was trade him to a breeder who didn't care about his temperament. So I can't really help you, but I do wish you luck.

Ok everyone..lets try and keep the nit picking to a minimum. The lady had a question..If you feel the need to keeping the Off topic poking up do it in PM..

Ok back to the show..

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Ok everyone..lets try and keep the nit picking to a minimum. The lady had a question..If you feel the need to keeping the Off topic poking up do it in PM..

Ok back to the show..

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Well said and thank you!!!!!...

I can see my phrase was taken way out of context...FYI Retics do happen to be my fav snake....I have seen several retics with strong feeding responses, several that were big babies such as one I worked with in St. Louis he was about 16 feet and laid on a guinea pig cause it annoyed him. My snake as beautiful as she is...is just straight mean I can take her out on one of her good days and hold her with out musking and such, though they are few and far between. Yet as soon as someone walks by at that point I am playing catch the flying 5.5 foot snake...honestly thats a lot of snake she's four inches longer than me

Here is another pic of here I just took it she rearranged her cage lol




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Lol looks like I have to clean it again the funny things pics point out sneaky girl!

Hopefully, she'll mellow for you with love and attention...I have a friend who got a down right viscious Burm and tamed her to the point that she's a big ole' lazy puppy dog...It took awhile and a lot of blood, but in the end it paid off...Good luck...I know all about the musking, I have a couple that fling poo/pee and musk the crud out of me...Too bad my Gucci cologne doesn't fully cover that yucky smell...:rage::rage::rage:

Don't worry JEWSKIN...I get what you are saying about retics. They are definitely jumpy animals(wether it be feeding response or not). Maybe try feeding that snake a bit more. It may just have a big appetite. Hope it tames down for you.

Thank you so much guys! BTW she eats like 15 dollars worth of rats a week appetite isn't it lol.....hopefully she will tame down I do want to breed her when she's big enough she's so beautiful in person!

dumb questions but can't retics get even 30 ft?!
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Alright. You're working with a young, "mean" snake. No problem. Be glad she's not 12 yrs. old...

You are doing some things right, some things wrong. Don't handle her much. As little as possible at the start. You want to gain trust. Do your "30 second in and out" enclosure maintenance, but make sure she gets your scent and is not threatened by you. Try not to cover her if you can. You are trying to eliminate her associating your scent with negative experiences. If she gets used to your scent and is not covered, poked, prodded, picked up, etc. she will realize you mean her no harm. Then let her start to approach you. Let her initiate contact. Let her lick your hand/arm. If you think she's going to bite, back off (sounds like you have a bit of experience, you should be able to "read" the snake by now). This could take awhile (longest I've ever taken to calm a snake was six months. A different species which shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, but it went from a psycho mouth of needles to a crowd favourite at our herp club's mall shows), but if you're dedicated and patient, it will work out in the end. And the reward for the work you've done will be amazing.

Good luck.

Chris

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Alright. You're working with a young, "mean" snake. No problem. Be glad she's not 12 yrs. old...

You are doing some things right, some things wrong. Don't handle her much. As little as possible at the start. You want to gain trust. Do your "30 second in and out" enclosure maintenance, but make sure she gets your scent and is not threatened by you. Try not to cover her if you can. You are trying to eliminate her associating your scent with negative experiences. If she gets used to your scent and is not covered, poked, prodded, picked up, etc. she will realize you mean her no harm. Then let her start to approach you. Let her initiate contact. Let her lick your hand/arm. If you think she's going to bite, back off (sounds like you have a bit of experience, you should be able to "read" the snake by now). This could take awhile (longest I've ever taken to calm a snake was six months. A different species which shall remain nameless to protect the innocent, but it went from a psycho mouth of needles to a crowd favourite at our herp club's mall shows), but if you're dedicated and patient, it will work out in the end. And the reward for the work you've done will be amazing.

Good luck.

Chris

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Thank you so much! I have gotten her on frozen thawed instead of live yay since I've had her and I will kepp you posted again thank you so much

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dumb questions but can't retics get even 30 ft?!
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yes but they are amazingly beautiful

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Oh took me a second to see the snake..

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Where is the snake? :rolleyes: If thats what hell looks like i am there :D

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Where is the snake? :rolleyes: If thats what hell looks like i am there :D

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lol good stuff ugh wish I could put more down have a rescue coming in have to set up for and aggressive neglected tegu :P

Love GU's want one someday...If you're looking for a great GU resource...Check out The Tegu Community @ thetegu.com A ton of knowledge and dang nice people too....

awesome will do I am hoping to adopt her out she needs to be tammed though funny all the animals I get need that

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yes but they are amazingly beautiful

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i agree but what r u gonna do when its 30 ft? lol

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i agree but what r u gonna do when its 30 ft? lol

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Well, since there has been a substantial financial reward (I believe it's now in the $100,000 range) offered by the Smithsonian for any snake of 30 feet since the 1930's, I would collect that...

Jewskin:

Taming of tegu's is pretty much the same as for snakes, except you have the benefit of much better hearing capabilities. Audible cues can be a great help...

Chris

she is wiley only when I first pick her up and then she sleeps on me though she's missing the tip of her tounge :(

I would take the python if the owner came with it LOL.

I would give both of you a good home LOL.

On second thought, can I just move out to Arizona with you? NJ sucks LOL.

lol arizona isn't much better lmao and hell at this point the owner of the snake is probably gonna keep her the rest of her bratty life so snake and owner are well are for sure a package deal lol

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lol arizona isn't much better lmao and hell at this point the owner of the snake is probably gonna keep her the rest of her bratty life so snake and owner are well are for sure a package deal lol

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Thats fine with me. I like package deals LOL. I have an empty 72" Neodesha hanging out in my garage. It will only be another year or two until she needs it anyway. For the record...Arizona is much better than NJ :-)

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Thats fine with me. I like package deals LOL. I have an empty 72" Neodesha hanging out in my garage. It will only be another year or two until she needs it anyway. For the record...Arizona is much better than NJ :-)

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then what r u still in NJ for lol

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then what r u still in NJ for lol

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I guess that I just never had any good offers in Arizona LOL.

Great... now we're a dating site! LOL

Chris

LMAO omg plenty of herps instead of plenty of fish oh wait not herps oh that could be bad

It is a beautiful snake and good luck with your efforts on taming her :gj:

thank you she is gorgeous I though lilith a fitting name