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Witch sable combis

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  • 02-25-2010, 12:03 PM
    jcp
    Witch sable combis
    Hi

    Guys, i know you probaly get insane of this type of topics sorry. But witch combi's are there al ready made with sables and super sables

    I know the mojave sable
  • 02-25-2010, 01:13 PM
    singingtothewheat
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Well if you mix a witch with a sable I guess you get a very sweet looking witch with creamy colors, a black hat and a nice wet / dry vac.:rolleye2:

    I think you meant which.
  • 02-25-2010, 03:49 PM
    jcp
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Sorry, Thats one stupid mistake! yes i mean Which
  • 02-25-2010, 03:56 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by singingtothewheat View Post
    Well if you mix a witch with a sable I guess you get a very sweet looking witch with creamy colors, a black hat and a nice wet / dry vac.:rolleye2:

    I think you meant which.

    I wasn't gonna go there today:D
  • 02-25-2010, 04:18 PM
    muddoc
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Sable Pinstripe
    Pastel Sable
    Sable Mojave
    Super Sable
    Sable Spider (does not live)
    Sable Mojave Spider (again it does not live with the Spider gene involved)
    Sable Yellow Belly
    Sable Pastel Yellow Belly

    I know that Jon Courtney is working with
    Sable Het Hypo
    Sable Het Axanthic

    There may be more, but those are what I am aware of thus far.
  • 02-25-2010, 04:36 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Which sable combos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by muddoc View Post
    Sable Spider (does not live)
    Sable Mojave Spider (again it does not live with the Spider gene involved)

    I didn't know about this, that's very interesting I wonder why they don't live? Do they hatch and then die young or do they not hatch at all?

    Have there been a lot of these crosses done? Or was it determined that they don't live after just a few tries?
  • 02-25-2010, 05:13 PM
    jcp
    Re: Which sable combos
    Ow, Nice didn't no there where already so many! i'm already in search for the pictures, I'm thinking about buying a pair of sables (first i love them,second in think there is a good future for them)
  • 02-25-2010, 11:29 PM
    muddoc
    Re: Which sable combos
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    I didn't know about this, that's very interesting I wonder why they don't live? Do they hatch and then die young or do they not hatch at all?

    Have there been a lot of these crosses done? Or was it determined that they don't live after just a few tries?

    The one I produced this year never made it out of the egg. The ones Sean produced this year never made it out of the eggs. The first guy to produce them had 2 hatch, but they didn't live a week. Also, from what I have heard, Kevin (NERD) has produced a few and they didn't live either. Kevin has a pic of one on his site somewhere (I don't remember where), and he called it something I can't remember. However, I know of at least 7 that have never lived past a week. I only tried it this year, because I hadn't been able to confirm that, and I wanted to experience it for myself for personel reasons.

    Hope that helps Mark,
  • 02-26-2010, 12:44 AM
    RandyRemington
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Thanks for the info! Do you know if chocolate has the same problem combined with chocolate? I've heard that chocolate and sable MIGHT be alleles.
  • 02-26-2010, 11:50 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by RandyRemington View Post
    Thanks for the info! Do you know if chocolate has the same problem combined with chocolate? I've heard that chocolate and sable MIGHT be alleles.

    Randy,
    Although I feel they are very similar, as you do, Brian has produced Chocolate Spiders and Chocolate Spinners, and they live. Therefore, it will be interesting to see what happens with the Sable gene as we produce more with it. I think one of the things that will help us learn a bit more is when the Super Sable Pinstripe is produced. I expect it will look very similar to the Camo ball, but that remains to be seen. As of now, I know that I have a Sable Pin girl, and Sean has a Sable Pin boy. So, one of us should be able to hit on it in the next 2 years.

    Lastly, I have been debating getting a Chocolate from Brian to test compatibility with the Sable gene. As of now, I currently have no Chocolate stock.
  • 02-26-2010, 07:33 PM
    axeman569
    Re: Witch sable combis
    I am also curious about the chocolate sable cross. I have a chocolate male and was considering getting a female sable, but that would still be a ways down the road.
  • 02-27-2010, 05:56 PM
    justinmann17
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Has anyone done a sable or chocolate and a cinnamon?
  • 02-28-2010, 01:45 AM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Witch sable combis
    I'm also hoping for some Butter Sables this year...I have one other Sable female ready to breed that I'm hoping to make something new with too!!!

    Butter x Sable
    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...Sable_4087.jpg
  • 02-28-2010, 07:23 AM
    jcp
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Nice pairing Jon, Sad that there are not that many (maybe not even one) Sables in holland. But i love the super sable,

    Darkside is a nice side i think (but lol lightside to)
  • 02-28-2010, 10:14 AM
    muddoc
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by justinmann17 View Post
    Has anyone done a sable or chocolate and a cinnamon?

    Sable Cinnamon has been done. I forgot to mention that one earleir. It is not a very impressive animal. It basically looks like a Cinnamon that is slightly different (you have to lok hard).
  • 02-28-2010, 02:47 PM
    jcp
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Hi,

    But i guess a dark looking morph with a dark looking morph, Will never really show a lot of difference ? So i would do Sable x lesser or something like it!
  • 08-12-2011, 01:43 PM
    true~bp~high
    Re: Witch sable combis
    Correction successfully have made a cross between a sable ball
    And a chocolate tom make chocolate sable ball python
    Add to sable morph list
  • 08-12-2011, 09:35 PM
    chago11
    Re: Witch sable combis
    I think Sean also made a super sable pin. I know he posted a pic on his FB page.
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