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  • 02-24-2010, 04:22 PM
    jjsnakedude
    Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Would you have to quarantine a spotted python from a ball python collection?
  • 02-24-2010, 04:34 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    You have to quarantine EVERY new reptile you bring into your home. Some illnesses are specific to some species of snakes--some can affect all snakes, and some can affect all reptiles.
  • 02-24-2010, 06:13 PM
    WaRocker
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    All reptiles need to be quarantined.. ALL:O

    Your geckos could get your snakes sick and vise versa.

    Every reptile needs to be Quarantined.. No ifs ands or buts..
    If you want to be safe...

    To many reptile sicknesses to list that can get each other sick.. :gj:
  • 02-24-2010, 06:51 PM
    MitsuMike
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Wow I was just gonna ask this. I only have 1 room, no house for me. So I have a little cabinent under my bed that I norm do my quarantines at.
    I have a super hypo tangerine coming in from BHB (she is a yr old) and i have a seperate cage and tank for her. Would it matter if I just put her in the glass tank and wash hands and what not inbetween handling or do i need to lock up the little leo for 3 weeks?
  • 02-24-2010, 06:54 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    Wow I was just gonna ask this. I only have 1 room, no house for me. So I have a little cabinent under my bed that I norm do my quarantines at.
    I have a super hypo tangerine coming in from BHB (she is a yr old) and i have a seperate cage and tank for her. Would it matter if I just put her in the glass tank and wash hands and what not inbetween handling or do i need to lock up the little leo for 3 weeks?

    IMO, lizards are a bit different.

    But if anyone wants to cite a source with information of a disease that can be passed from Leo's to Ball Pythons, please do so.
  • 02-24-2010, 07:09 PM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    Wow I was just gonna ask this. I only have 1 room, no house for me. So I have a little cabinent under my bed that I norm do my quarantines at.
    I have a super hypo tangerine coming in from BHB (she is a yr old) and i have a seperate cage and tank for her. Would it matter if I just put her in the glass tank and wash hands and what not inbetween handling or do i need to lock up the little leo for 3 weeks?

    If you only have one available room then quarantine isn't really possible in your case so your either ''all in'' or nothing I'm afraid.
  • 02-24-2010, 07:13 PM
    kc261
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    Wow I was just gonna ask this. I only have 1 room, no house for me. So I have a little cabinent under my bed that I norm do my quarantines at.
    I have a super hypo tangerine coming in from BHB (she is a yr old) and i have a seperate cage and tank for her. Would it matter if I just put her in the glass tank and wash hands and what not inbetween handling or do i need to lock up the little leo for 3 weeks?

    Some people just do not have the ability to quarantine as effectively as others. You are left with a choice of never getting a new animal, or just QTing as best as you can.

    If/when you get new animals, always be especially careful where you get them from, look them over very carefully before you bring them home, etc. Also, look into other possibilities you may not have considered. Do you have a friend who could QT your new animals at their house? Even if it stayed at their home for only a few days, it would be better than nothing. Normally, I'd say an animal you got from your friend should still be QTed when you brought it home, but a friend that has no other reptiles would seem like a reasonable QT location if you have no other options.
  • 02-24-2010, 07:20 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    IMO, lizards are a bit different.

    But if anyone wants to cite a source with information of a disease that can be passed from Leo's to Ball Pythons, please do so.


    http://aem.asm.org/cgi/content/full/...&pmid=14766569

    Page down to "Cross-transmission of Cryptosporidium between snakes and lizards".
  • 02-24-2010, 08:03 PM
    MitsuMike
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by SNIKTTIME View Post
    If you only have one available room then quarantine isn't really possible in your case so your either ''all in'' or nothing I'm afraid.

    I mean I norm keep the cabinet closed or crack alittle with a towel over the opening. I put a lamp inside for "light" and shut it off at night. Nothing that I use in that area is used or put near the rack or my other snakes.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by kc261 View Post
    Some people just do not have the ability to quarantine as effectively as others. You are left with a choice of never getting a new animal, or just QTing as best as you can.

    If/when you get new animals, always be especially careful where you get them from, look them over very carefully before you bring them home, etc. Also, look into other possibilities you may not have considered. Do you have a friend who could QT your new animals at their house? Even if it stayed at their home for only a few days, it would be better than nothing. Normally, I'd say an animal you got from your friend should still be QTed when you brought it home, but a friend that has no other reptiles would seem like a reasonable QT location if you have no other options.

    I don't trust other ppl with my reptiles. To them they are just stupid objects that have no meaning or value they are just what they are, reptiles that should be in the wild not as a pet. I might look into keeping the gecko at my girls place in a 16 qt for 3-5 days and see how the little girl is doing.
    I'll be sure to check the her over very well before she is brought in the room.
  • 02-24-2010, 08:15 PM
    OhhWatALoser
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    If keeping animals in the same room isn't QTing them right, then I have never QT'd one animal I own. I keep them in seperate tubs and make sure they do not get handled without washing hands.
  • 02-24-2010, 08:24 PM
    West Coast Jungle
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Reptile mites can be transfered from any reptile to any reptile.

    Then whatever disease one reptile may have could be transfered via mites.


    I have heard of dealers putting Sevin dust (I think thats how its spelled) on the floor in their quarrantine room and keeping enclosures away from each other so if they do get an animal with mites they would be killed as the crawled across the floor.

    I have a different room and all new arrivals are put in tubs treated with PAM as if they already had mites. Luckily I have never had a problem.
  • 02-24-2010, 08:26 PM
    MitsuMike
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by OhhWatALoser View Post
    If keeping animals in the same room isn't QTing them right, then I have never QT'd one animal I own. I keep them in seperate tubs and make sure they do not get handled without washing hands.

    Haha. From my understanding I haven't seen or heard of any airborne diseases or viruses. But I'll see what other ppl say before making any misinformed points.
    I'll PAM it too cuz I now mites can travel.
  • 02-25-2010, 10:10 AM
    Skiploder
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    Haha. From my understanding I haven't seen or heard of any airborne diseases or viruses.

    :confused:


    Paramyxovirus is airborne.
  • 02-25-2010, 10:16 AM
    jjsnakedude
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    :confused:


    Paramyxovirus is airborne.

    I have been hearing people say this but I dont know what it is. Anyone want to shed some light?
  • 02-25-2010, 11:09 AM
    jjsnakedude
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    :confused:


    Paramyxovirus is airborne.

    I have been hearing people say this but I dont know what it is. Anyone want to shed some light?
  • 02-25-2010, 12:00 PM
    MitsuMike
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    :confused:


    Paramyxovirus is airborne.

    BUT the animal will show signs of an RI, so you will know if the virus is present.
  • 02-25-2010, 12:15 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    BUT the animal will show signs of an RI, so you will know if the virus is present.


    Will it?

    "In many of the outbreaks on OPMV infection, minimal or no clinical signs are noted by the keeper/owner. Often snakes will be found dead in their cage early in the morning, having died the night before. Many of these snakes appear to be in good health with good weight and normal behavior prior to death. Clinical signs can be subtle or non-specific such as off feed for one to two weeks. "

    I don't think so............
  • 02-25-2010, 12:56 PM
    MitsuMike
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Skiploder View Post
    Will it?

    "In many of the outbreaks on OPMV infection, minimal or no clinical signs are noted by the keeper/owner. Often snakes will be found dead in their cage early in the morning, having died the night before. Many of these snakes appear to be in good health with good weight and normal behavior prior to death. Clinical signs can be subtle or non-specific such as off feed for one to two weeks. "

    I don't think so............

    I'm trying to find the point in all this. Your just proving there is no safe quarantine process besides leaving ur snake in a bubble to 3-6 months and getting it test every month.
  • 02-25-2010, 01:45 PM
    Skiploder
    Re: Other species of snakes Quarantined
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MitsuMike View Post
    I'm trying to find the point in all this. Your just proving there is no safe quarantine process besides leaving ur snake in a bubble to 3-6 months and getting it test every month.

    The only points I am making are in response to inaccurate comments you made:

    (1) There are airborne reptile pathogens.
    (2) OPMV oftentimes presents with NO symptoms.

    Plan your QT procedures accordingly. If you want to take short cuts, it's no sweat off my back.

    For some diseases - there are no 100% effective QT procedures. For many, there are.

    Many of us to separate our animals for 3 to 6 months and many of us test animals prior to mixing them into the general population. Those are responsble and effective QT measures that minimize, but do not completely eliminate risk.

    While OPMV isn't really a concern with your geckoes, crypto could be. Sterilizing tools isn't always enough, as there are other ways you could potentially spread the disease from one animal to another.

    However with respect to the OPs question, proper quarantine is essential as there are many more pathogens that are transferable from snake to snake.
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