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  • 02-24-2010, 01:48 AM
    seeya205
    Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    My normal female came from a normal and pastel bred together. Can she produce a pastel if bred to a normal?
  • 02-24-2010, 01:51 AM
    xdeus
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    No. Pastel is a codominant trait which means only one gene is needed to show the pastel attribute. If your female doesn't look like a pastel, she doesn't have the gene.
  • 02-24-2010, 01:56 AM
    seeya205
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Thanks! I have no idea about genes and mixing but I am going to a show this weekend and wanted to get her a mate. She is only 7 months old so it will be awhile before she is ready!
  • 02-24-2010, 03:35 AM
    Lolo76
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Since your girl is a normal, try getting her a co-dominant mate... then you have a 50/50 chance (per egg) of visual morphs in her first clutch. :gj: Some co-dom morphs to consider would be spider, pastel, mojave, lesser, and cinnamon - among others.

    Here's a genetic calculator, which should help you figure things out... choose Ball Python under "species select," and "wildtyp" for normal. http://geneticcalculator.traxxtec.de/en/rechner.aspx
  • 02-24-2010, 04:04 AM
    draco398b
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    here is another good wizard to do calculations on. this one does multiple genetic combos go to bottom of page and down load. even though it says corn snake its the best combo ball python I've found

    http://www.cornsnakes.nl/GenericGenWiz/MPGW.htm
  • 02-24-2010, 10:24 AM
    seeya205
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Thanks! I was wanting a spider so that's probaly what I will get if they have a nice one at the show!
  • 02-24-2010, 11:04 AM
    Pedy9970
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by seeya205 View Post
    Thanks! I was wanting a spider so that's probaly what I will get if they have a nice one at the show!

    actually a spider is a dominant not co-dom morph :)

    the difference is it has no super form :)
  • 02-24-2010, 12:21 PM
    Turbo Serpent
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Pedy9970 View Post
    actually a spider is a dominant not co-dom morph :)

    the difference is it has no super form :)

    That is still debatable.... but that's another story.

    Spiders are nice, just make sure to talk with the breeder about it beforehand, make sure it is eating okay, and that the wobble (which it WILL have) isn't a complete train wreck.

    Good luck. :gj:
  • 02-24-2010, 12:40 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    That is still debatable.... but that's another story.

    Spiders are nice, just make sure to talk with the breeder about it beforehand, make sure it is eating okay, and that the wobble (which it WILL have) isn't a complete train wreck.

    Good luck. :gj:

    No...Please Turbo....Let talk about wether the Spider has a super form or not;)...This thread would be completely:hijackd:
  • 02-24-2010, 06:54 PM
    seeya205
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent View Post
    That is still debatable.... but that's another story.

    Spiders are nice, just make sure to talk with the breeder about it beforehand, make sure it is eating okay, and that the wobble (which it WILL have) isn't a complete train wreck.

    Good luck. :gj:

    I am aware of the head wobble so I will be looking for that! I wouldn't mine a bumble bee too! I will just see what they got!
  • 02-25-2010, 02:41 AM
    Evilme5229
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    i would probably go pewter in your case with a normal female. That way you get pastels and cinnys. Keep a cinny and pastel female out of your 1st clutch and breed back to your pewter in 3 yrs. to get pewters, super pastels, super cinnys, cinnys. and lets not exclude the norms.
  • 02-25-2010, 08:58 AM
    zeke
    Re: Can a normal produce a pastel if she came from a pastel?
    Here's a Genetic Wizard thats in english. I checked the other one out .. but I no spaark enz dutch (sp)


    Cheers:gj:
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