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  • 02-21-2010, 09:04 PM
    jacob985
    can it
    can a normal BP from a spider clutch have characteristics of a spider?
  • 02-21-2010, 09:09 PM
    dembonez
    Re: can it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jacob985 View Post
    can a normal BP from a spider clutch have characteristics of a spider?

    good question and i guess i mean wont it be het for spider?

    therefore have some spider genetics
  • 02-21-2010, 09:18 PM
    2kdime
    Re: can it
    From what I know of Ball Python genetics, (Im a Blood Python Guy)

    Spiders are Co-Dom

    So in a clutch, you have....

    Normals

    Spiders

    Post a picture of the one your curious about
  • 02-21-2010, 09:20 PM
    steveboos
    Re: can it
    The normals wont have any wobbles as its just the spider gene itself. Your fine breeding a spider to a normal and yes 2kdime is right with the results you'll get.
  • 02-21-2010, 09:23 PM
    WingedWolfPsion
    Re: can it
    No, spider is a single mutant gene. The normals in a spider clutch are simply normal. They don't have the gene, thus they don't have spider traits.
  • 02-21-2010, 09:43 PM
    jacob985
    Re: can it
    okay cus i was comparing my two normals and the one that came from the spider clutch actually resembled a spider
  • 02-21-2010, 09:55 PM
    Fallguy
    Re: can it
    Could we see pictures?
  • 02-21-2010, 09:59 PM
    jacob985
    Re: can it
    maybe one day soon i loaned out my camera and waiting to get it back. it would be useful
  • 02-22-2010, 02:58 PM
    alan1
    Re: can it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by jacob985 View Post
    okay cus i was comparing my two normals and the one that came from the spider clutch actually resembled a spider

    sounds like a banded/reduced pattern...
  • 02-22-2010, 03:23 PM
    Toronto Python Gurus
    Re: can it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alan1 View Post
    sounds like a banded/reduced pattern...

    I agree, it can only be normal or spider, if it's normal an resembles a spider than I'd have to agree with you it's most likely a reduced pattern normal, what did the Normal parent look like, do you have pictures of him/her?
  • 02-22-2010, 07:55 PM
    jacob985
    Re: can it
    no i do not but yea a reduced pattern would make since i didn't think about that one.
  • 02-22-2010, 08:05 PM
    blackcrystal22
    Re: can it
    There is no such thing as a Het. Spider. :gj:

    Nor is there any Het. Co-dominant traits. (Heterozygous only applies non-visually to recessive traits. If a Co-Dominant animal is Heterozygous, it displays that trait and it's super form is Homozygous).

    So, if there is a 'normal' ball python hatchling from a Co-Dominant breeding, it is just that, normal. (this includes Pastels, Mojaves, Spiders, Pinstripes, Fires, Lessers, Butters, and all other co-dom traits).
  • 02-22-2010, 08:18 PM
    alan1
    Re: can it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by blackcrystal22 View Post
    (Heterozygous only applies non-visually to recessive traits. ).

    incorrect...
    heterozygous means 'one', homozygous means 'the same'

    a pastel is 'het' for super pastel
    a yellowbelly is 'het' for ivory
    a fire is 'het' for BlakEL (2 'the same' fire genes)... etc
  • 02-23-2010, 01:17 AM
    unspecified42
    Re: can it
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by alan1 View Post
    incorrect...
    heterozygous means 'one', homozygous means 'the same'

    a pastel is 'het' for super pastel
    a yellowbelly is 'het' for ivory
    a fire is 'het' for BlakEL (2 'the same' fire genes)... etc


    What? No, that's not quite right, either. 'Hetero' means 'different'- as in the individual has two different genes for that allele.

    You are correct that whether an individual is heterozygous or not is irrelevant to the genetic disposition of the trait- you can be 'het' for a codominant trait or a recessive one. 'Het' simply refers to the fact that the individual carries two different genes.
  • 02-23-2010, 04:52 PM
    alan1
    Re: can it
    only one (out of a possible two) is the same as 'different' yes?
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