pastave X pastave

what would the offspring be? im trying to look everywhere but no luck

Wow! I could only imagine what you would get. Pastel Super Mojo? It would seem like you would have the possiblity of a number of combos from the offspring.

i just found it right after i posted this. the results--

6.25%: Normal
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Super Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Super Pastel

Yeah WTF! That would be a heck of a clutch. I just want to know what the Super Mojo Super Pastel would look like. Odds arent good. But wow that's alot of potential.

Thats a 1n16 chance. A wide variety

i would be happy with any out come of that clutch. even with the 1:16 you are going to have some good babies

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Originally Posted by rebel750

Yeah WTF! That would be a heck of a clutch. I just want to know what the Super Mojo Super Pastel would look like. Odds arent good. But wow that's alot of potential.

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actually it wouldnt be that killer looking of a combo. But breeding wise it would.
Leucistic means no pigmet at all.

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Originally Posted by jjsnakedude

actually it wouldnt be that killer looking of a combo. But breeding wise it would.
Leucistic means no pigmet at all.

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well with the Super mojo and Ivory that is not so true the case. but its a rough translation.

i would think the super pastel super mojo would be a lot cleaner than the super mojo because the super pastel would probably fade away the dirty head of a super mojo.

i googled some pics of the super mojo super pastel and it is a very clean BEL. hopefully one day i will be lucky enough to breed one

ACTUALLY, These are your odds...:P

6.25%: Normal
12.50%: Mojave
12.50%: Pastel
6.25%: Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave
25%: Mojave, Pastel
12.50%: Super Mojave, Pastel
12.50%: Super Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Super Mojave, Super Pastel

How do you figure?

6.25%: Normal
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Super Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Super Pastel

This is also what I found. Where did you look to get your percentages? Just curious.

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Originally Posted by jjsnakedude

actually it wouldnt be that killer looking of a combo. But breeding wise it would.
Leucistic means no pigmet at all.

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Then people need to stop calling a Super Mojave a BEL. Seeing as how they have pigment on the head.

I thought having pastel in a BEL may show in some way or another.

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Originally Posted by mpkeelee

i just found it right after i posted this. the results--

6.25%: Normal
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Super Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Super Pastel

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To partially & poorly quote Forrest... it reminds me of a box of chocolates... You never know what you're gonna get.
But i like the suprise part, and the 1:16 on the killer BEL :D
Roll them dice!

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Originally Posted by rebel750

How do you figure?

6.25%: Normal
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave
6.25%: Super Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Pastel
6.25%: Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Pastel
6.25%: Mojave, Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave, Super Pastel

This is also what I found. Where did you look to get your percentages? Just curious.

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Here is where you guys are going wrong.
Your doing some online breeding, where it doesn't comprehend that it is giving different percents for the same morphs. Basically, it has some morphs two and three times, as 6.25% when it wouldn't be that.

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Originally Posted by rebel750

Then people need to stop calling a Super Mojave a BEL. Seeing as how they have pigment on the head.

I thought having pastel in a BEL may show in some way or another.

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It is still a blue eyed lucy. They are compatible morphs.
would we not call a Mojave x lesser a BEL then, because the Mojave doesn't make BELS?

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Originally Posted by rebel750

Then people need to stop calling a Super Mojave a BEL. Seeing as how they have pigment on the head.

I thought having pastel in a BEL may show in some way or another.

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Leucism is just a form of reduced pigment. A pied animal is actually leucistic.
YB Ivorys and all the lesser/butter/mojo/fires etc 'supers' are infact leucistic. Ball breeders name the different visual leucistic traits with 'fancy' names to indentify which animals they were produced from or make them sellable.

Try a google I'm sure wikipedia etc has more indepth info if you need it. :gj:

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Originally Posted by FIEND_FO_LYFE

It is still a blue eyed lucy. They are compatible morphs.
would we not call a Mojave x lesser a BEL then, because the Mojave doesn't make BELS?

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2 Mojaves dont make what I would call a true BEL. But a Mojave and a Lesser sure as heck do. That's why one is called a BEL and the other is a Super Mojave. 99% similarities doesnt make them the same.

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Originally Posted by rebel750

2 Mojaves dont make what I would call a true BEL. But a Mojave and a Lesser sure as heck do. That's why one is called a BEL and the other is a Super Mojave. 99% similarities doesnt make them the same.

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All just descriptive names given by BP breeders/sellers.
They are all leucistic at the end of the day.

Potatoe, Pototoe. Wait that doesnt have the same effect on the internet.

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Originally Posted by rebel750

Potatoe, Pototoe. Wait that doesnt have the same effect on the internet.

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LOL...no matter what my odds are im gonna try and breed some pastave's and see what comes out. in a couple years ill post again with the outcome. lol if anyone knows of someone who is doing this now, ask them to post with their results

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Originally Posted by FIEND_FO_LYFE

ACTUALLY, These are your odds...:P

6.25%: Normal
12.50%: Mojave
12.50%: Pastel
6.25%: Super Pastel
6.25%: Super Mojave
25%: Mojave, Pastel
12.50%: Super Mojave, Pastel
12.50%: Super Pastel, Mojave
6.25%: Super Mojave, Super Pastel

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Eeh Im a tard. I get it now.

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Originally Posted by mpkeelee

i googled some pics of the super mojo super pastel and it is a very clean BEL. hopefully one day i will be lucky enough to breed one

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could you share a link to the pic, i tried to google that and got either super mojos or super pastels but no combo pics.

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Originally Posted by rebel750

Eeh Im a tard. I get it now.

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Thats why id rather do the math myself, then do some online thing...
:gj:


(CMON! that so deserves rep pts.) hahahaha

As fiend for lyfe pointed out, the genetic calculator you used http://www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard/ doesn't add up the possibilities that are the same combo. It listed pastel twice, so you have to double the 6.25 to 12.5. Same with Mojave. It listed the mojave/pastel(pastave) 4 times, so you have to quadruple it, etc.