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Is my BP a rule breaker?

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  • 02-19-2010, 02:06 AM
    nickdolin
    Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Hello everyone.

    In my very short experience in owning a BP I've come to realize that either mine is an exception to the rule or I'm not sure what is going on.

    Rules Broken...

    1. My snake is active about 8-10 hours a night. While he wasn't like this when he first arrived but over the past 2-3 weeks, (he go here about 5 weeks ago) he is active from dark until morning light. I know most of you have said, a hiding BP is a happy one... well my guy seems fine out exploring.

    2. Even with handling 4-5 times a week, he is still feeding on schedule which suggests to me that this guy seems to feel pretty secure.


    So what do you all think, is this normal, or do I just have an exception?
  • 02-19-2010, 02:22 AM
    justinsane82
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    In my experience, if a BP is out and active more often then not, it's because it isn't happy with it's hides.
  • 02-19-2010, 02:24 AM
    Reediculous
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    If your husbandry is spot on .... your fine ....

    Sounds like normal behavior for a BP to me.......
  • 02-19-2010, 02:30 AM
    nickdolin
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    As far as I can tell, my temps/humidity is fine

    Ambient- 78-80
    Warm- 87-90
    Humidity 55-60 (bit high but is that an issue)?
  • 02-19-2010, 02:39 AM
    Elise.m
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    All BPs are different. As long as he's not roaming during the day I wouldn't worry.
  • 02-19-2010, 02:41 AM
    MustBeSatan
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickdolin View Post
    1. My snake is active about 8-10 hours a night.

    Ball Pythons are nocturnal... So... Uh... Yeah?

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickdolin View Post
    2. Even with handling 4-5 times a week, he is still feeding on schedule which suggests to me that this guy seems to feel pretty secure.

    4-5 Times a week isn't excessive, and as long as you're not throwing them around shouldn't stress them out very much. Others on here handle theirs every single day with no issues.

    Post up when he starts telling you he loves you. Then we'll talk. Till then, sounds like pretty average BP behaviour to this observer. :)
  • 02-19-2010, 03:01 AM
    nickdolin
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Will do Satan.

    I only posted this as from many posts here on BP.net have suggested that he should be acting otherwise with some people stating that he'd be hiding 90% of the time and that handling more than 1-2-3 times a week is excessive. But Elise, he does hide all day so that's all good.
  • 02-19-2010, 03:29 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    how old is he? What is his weight? How much and how often are you feeding him?

    my snakes are usually in their hides at night because they are digesting. When they are hungry, I will see them out more often at night. But right after a meal, nada.
  • 02-19-2010, 03:45 AM
    BiggBaddWolf
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    As long as he is still feeding ok I wouldnt worry about anything. Just ignore all the questions about how old is he? how much does he weigh? how much are you feeding him..It is all immaterial as long as he is still eating :D
  • 02-19-2010, 04:09 AM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BiggBaddWolf View Post
    As long as he is still feeding ok I wouldnt worry about anything. Just ignore all the questions about how old is he? how much does he weigh? how much are you feeding him..It is all immaterial as long as he is still eating :D

    If the snake is being under-fed then yes, it matters. If an adult ball python is being fed pinky mice then obviously not everything is fine because the snake is eating.
  • 02-19-2010, 04:38 AM
    MustBeSatan
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Kaorte View Post
    If the snake is being under-fed then yes, it matters. If an adult ball python is being fed pinky mice then obviously not everything is fine because the snake is eating.

    You got served.
  • 02-19-2010, 07:03 AM
    rabernet
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by BiggBaddWolf View Post
    As long as he is still feeding ok I wouldnt worry about anything. Just ignore all the questions about how old is he? how much does he weigh? how much are you feeding him..It is all immaterial as long as he is still eating :D

    How helpful exactly is instructing someone to ignore questions? There's usually a very good reason a question is being asked. :colbert:
  • 02-19-2010, 08:16 AM
    BPelizabeth
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    As far as what you are describing....it sounds fine. Mine are typically out and checking things out at night. As someone else stated they are nocturnal. Also I have a couple that LOVE to be out. One that thinks she is part human or something....koo koo :rolleyes:

    I do notice when it gets closer to feeding day...they are out and about more. Like they have a mini calander in there enclosure...lol

    The reason we ask about feeding and age is that we have seen ppl that have been mis-informed in regards to how much they should feed there BP and the size. I mean really....some ppl have been told to feed 1 time every 2 to 3 months. :O Its crazy.

    So I am sure Kaorte was just checking....let me tell you she is super smart on this stuff and always gives great advice. ANDDDDDDDDDDDD she is a stickler for details.....;)
  • 02-19-2010, 08:55 AM
    771subliminal
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickdolin View Post
    As far as I can tell, my temps/humidity is fine

    Ambient- 78-80
    Warm- 87-90
    Humidity 55-60 (bit high but is that an issue)?

    what are you useing to check your temps? digital or analog and where are you messureing them at
  • 02-19-2010, 09:41 AM
    nickdolin
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Weight 200-210G
    Feeding Adult Mice 35-45G

    Measuring Temps with Digital Therm with probe directly above UTH
  • 02-19-2010, 10:18 AM
    BiggBaddWolf
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rabernet View Post
    How helpful exactly is instructing someone to ignore questions? There's usually a very good reason a question is being asked. :colbert:

    You know you are right come to think of it, it's just that when someone asks a question on the forum, there are several EXPERTS who are quick to answer a question, and each EXPERT has a different answer, so how does someone know whether to belive EXPERT A, B, C, or D, and on and on, you get the idea!!!!! I just think all the EXPERTS are giving a lot of mixed signals to people seeking answers. I have been keeping snakes for several years and know what works for my snakes, so I don't really have to rely on the EXPERTS on this site, but others who have good questions or concerns are most likely being really confused by the EXPERTS who frequently post advice on this site. And might I ad that none of the advice given by one EXPERT will coincide with the next EXPERT to come along with an answer!!
  • 02-19-2010, 12:41 PM
    dr del
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Hi,

    That's because these are living animals not mathematical equations. :D

    There are nearly always a range of answers and possibilities rather than just one.

    Trying to work out which one is relevant to the problem at hand is usually a fairly involved process of ruling things out by asking more questions. If we just stuck to offering one solution to each concern then we might never ask the question that suggests it is, in fact, caused by something the OP thought was inconsequential and so never bothered to tell us until asked.

    I'm sorry you have such a problem with EXPERTS and know what works for your snakes in situations where you can actually see the animals and know every possible variable in their care and behaviour. :rolleyes:


    dr del
  • 02-19-2010, 12:47 PM
    spitfireashlea
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    4-5 Times a week isn't excessive, and as long as you're not throwing them around shouldn't stress them out very much. Others on here handle theirs every single day with no issues.
    I take mine everywhere I go.
  • 02-19-2010, 01:10 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickdolin View Post
    Weight 200-210G
    Feeding Adult Mice 35-45G

    Measuring Temps with Digital Therm with probe directly above UTH

    Well everything seems to be in order. I wouldn't worry about it. He is a bit young to be looking for a lady but there have been males who will breed around 300g so maybe that is it.
  • 02-19-2010, 01:13 PM
    nickdolin
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Really?

    Maybe I gots an early bloomer, lol. Are you saying that he may be out looking for a female?
  • 02-19-2010, 01:16 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by nickdolin View Post
    Really?

    Maybe I gots an early bloomer, lol. Are you saying that he may be out looking for a female?

    There is a chance, I suppose. This doesn't mean you should put him in with a female though. He is still very tiny.
  • 02-19-2010, 01:18 PM
    nickdolin
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Haha

    1. I don't have a female.

    2. If I did, I have no plans on breeding.

    3. Yes he is tiny, but so adorable.. lol
  • 02-19-2010, 04:49 PM
    BiggBaddWolf
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Hi,

    That's because these are living animals not mathematical equations. :D

    There are nearly always a range of answers and possibilities rather than just one.

    Trying to work out which one is relevant to the problem at hand is usually a fairly involved process of ruling things out by asking more questions. If we just stuck to offering one solution to each concern then we might never ask the question that suggests it is, in fact, caused by something the OP thought was inconsequential and so never bothered to tell us until asked.

    I'm sorry you have such a problem with EXPERTS and know what works for your snakes in situations where you can actually see the animals and know every possible variable in their care and behaviour. :rolleyes:


    dr del

    Right again you are Doc, sometimes there is no single, simple solution, but all the EXPERTS here will tell someone you either do it MY WAY or you are killing your snake....Ummmmmm yeah ok :rolleyes:
  • 02-19-2010, 05:28 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Is my BP a rule breaker?
    Not all the EXPERTS do this. Most of the people on this website don't consider themselves experts because these are animals, and they're all different. There is no one way to do things, and we simply just make suggestions. If someone says "Well the ambient temp in my house is 60 and I'm going to keep it that way" ...Yeah we're going to try to get that person to change their mind.

    Once again, huffing and puffing, but you can't seem to blow that house down.
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