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  • 02-15-2010, 04:54 AM
    tizzle89
    blue tongue skink issues
    i know this is the wrong forum.. couldnt find the skink forum lol

    but heres the issue i have had earley for about a month now.. hes a feisty one with a big tude on him... but now during his shed.. he is very timid and he hasnt eaten in about 3 days maybe 4... he wont even eat his apple sauce which he loves.. hes a milky color all on his belly

    no the temp
    no the humidity

    these are not the issue here since nothing has changed sides the humidity has gone up since he is in shed


    is it norm for him to not eat while he is shedding?
  • 02-15-2010, 09:28 AM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    i know this is the wrong forum.. couldnt find the skink forum lol

    but heres the issue i have had earley for about a month now.. hes a feisty one with a big tude on him... but now during his shed.. he is very timid and he hasnt eaten in about 3 days maybe 4... he wont even eat his apple sauce which he loves.. hes a milky color all on his belly

    no the temp
    no the humidity

    these are not the issue here since nothing has changed sides the humidity has gone up since he is in shed


    is it norm for him to not eat while he is shedding?



    ok so i think i found the issue... i took him out of the cage.. i noticed a swelling on his left upper jaw/lip ...

    shown here

    http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...Photo-0101.jpg


    so after tryn to clean it out with paper towl since i though it was just dirt.. i noticed a white clump thing inside.. so i took a tooth brush to his mouth

    shown here

    http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...Photo-0100.jpg

    after doing this.. and him finnaly getting mad enough to bite it.. breaking another tooth.. i gathered my collection of these..

    shown here

    http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/k...Photo-0102.jpg

    2 of them are rock hard and a few where just moosh... i need to know what they are... i heared of mouth rot.. but i have no idea if these are a result of this
  • 02-15-2010, 10:07 AM
    redstormlax12
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Im not familiar with skinks, but that seems to be a vet visit problem. You should schedule an appointment as soon as possible.
  • 02-15-2010, 10:26 AM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by redstormlax12 View Post
    Im not familiar with skinks, but that seems to be a vet visit problem. You should schedule an appointment as soon as possible.

    thats just it.. it doesnt match with mouth rot.. even though it ses holes will apear.. there is no discoloring of his <lips> ... its almost like he had an abses tooth .. but then again he teeth are cartilage.. so my wife says.. lol she is the one who lookd up the skink and i lookd up the bp.. keeps things fare imo

    a vet bill is to much atm.. only have 50 saved up since valentines came up lol
  • 02-15-2010, 12:04 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    How's the skink doing now? It's possible it's just food that got stuck. Caused a little irritation. I would watch him closely and see how he's doing.

    Good Luck!
    Jim Smith
  • 02-15-2010, 02:09 PM
    wilomn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Clean it aggressively with betadine. You can get it at any drug store.

    Food and debris often get mashed up in the teeth, which are NOT cartiledge, causing gum irritation. You need to get all the cheesy stuff, both hard and soft, out of the gumline and he should then be fine.
  • 02-15-2010, 07:25 PM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    Clean it aggressively with betadine. You can get it at any drug store.

    Food and debris often get mashed up in the teeth, which are NOT cartiledge, causing gum irritation. You need to get all the cheesy stuff, both hard and soft, out of the gumline and he should then be fine.

    i only been feeding him soft food.. but u sound like u no whats up and i did get it all lol he was ever as so kind to bite the tooth brush and the brissels went into the hole n got what i couldnt seem to get.. then he bit it again and broke another tooth out...

    will his eeth grow back? he seems to be young and his teeth are very small..
  • 02-15-2010, 07:43 PM
    wilomn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    They do break easily and will regrow naturally. Squirt some betadine up there just to help keep it clean. Even soft food can cause problems if it gets packed in between teeth or in a hole where a tooth is missing. It shouldn't be a big deal if you stay on top of it.
  • 02-15-2010, 07:49 PM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    They do break easily and will regrow naturally. Squirt some betadine up there just to help keep it clean. Even soft food can cause problems if it gets packed in between teeth or in a hole where a tooth is missing. It shouldn't be a big deal if you stay on top of it.

    will do hes in shed atm which tops it all off lol hes really grouchy .. about the shed and im sure his mouth hurts.. i have to wait till tomarow to get the beta-dine..
  • 02-16-2010, 02:37 PM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    skink is not eating.. or not eating very much. he loves apple sauce and when i put it in there he used to eat all of it within a day.. now it just looks like he goes over and eats a bite or 2 and leaves it till its dry and nasty.. im getting the mouth stuff today and a baby tooth brush just incase he trys to bite it he wont break anymore teeth...

    is his eating because of his mouth being the way it is?

    also getting chicken baby food... << goes crazy over this
  • 02-16-2010, 03:12 PM
    wilomn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    His mouth may be sore or he may simply not be hungry. Mine doesn't eat every day. Others I have had do the same. Often they will eat several days in a row, then skip a few then eat, then not.

    Babies tend to eat more often than adults. So long as there is no weight loss I wouldn't worry if he goes a couple/three days on occasion without eating.
  • 02-16-2010, 09:35 PM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    His mouth may be sore or he may simply not be hungry. Mine doesn't eat every day. Others I have had do the same. Often they will eat several days in a row, then skip a few then eat, then not.

    Babies tend to eat more often than adults. So long as there is no weight loss I wouldn't worry if he goes a couple/three days on occasion without eating.

    got him some chicken baby food.. he ate a lil bit.. after i cleaned his mouth ..

    do i do this everyday?
  • 02-16-2010, 09:58 PM
    wilomn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    You should for 3 to 5 days. If there is no more cheese or swelling he'll probably be ok.

    Be sure to be aggressive in your cleaning. Give a squeeze above the infected area, like you would a needing-to-be-popped pimple, to be sure you're getting all the gunk out. If you don't an infection could set in. It sounds worse than it actually is. Just clean it out good and you should be ok.
  • 02-17-2010, 03:56 AM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by wilomn View Post
    You should for 3 to 5 days. If there is no more cheese or swelling he'll probably be ok.

    Be sure to be aggressive in your cleaning. Give a squeeze above the infected area, like you would a needing-to-be-popped pimple, to be sure you're getting all the gunk out. If you don't an infection could set in. It sounds worse than it actually is. Just clean it out good and you should be ok.

    yeah about that.. earley... well he bit me once.. i kinda was stupid and didnt think of him as a threat to harm me.. but then i realized when he bit me that he has very very powerful jaws... lol but yeah i take a tooth brush to it and scrub it for a bit then he starts biting it so it gets nice n deep in the hole.. ill clean it everyday .. swelling has already gone down.. but are u sure he can eat the betadine?
  • 02-17-2010, 10:18 AM
    wilomn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    yeah about that.. earley... well he bit me once.. i kinda was stupid and didnt think of him as a threat to harm me.. but then i realized when he bit me that he has very very powerful jaws... lol but yeah i take a tooth brush to it and scrub it for a bit then he starts biting it so it gets nice n deep in the hole.. ill clean it everyday .. swelling has already gone down.. but are u sure he can eat the betadine?

    Yup.
  • 03-12-2010, 12:41 AM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    my skink has a r.i i need to know what to give him.. vet isnt an option atm.. is amoxicilin the bitic they give them?
  • 03-12-2010, 04:47 PM
    flynn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    A month ago this thread was started for a mouth issue, and now the animal is (still) sick with a RI? And a vet still isnt an option??

    Either get it to a vet, or give it away to someone who can (and will) afford it.

    Just my two cents.

    :rage:
  • 03-12-2010, 05:01 PM
    flynn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Hate to double post, but this post was created recently. Please take note of point #3.

    http://www.ball-pythons.net/forums/s...d.php?t=114610
  • 03-13-2010, 02:15 AM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by flynn View Post
    A month ago this thread was started for a mouth issue, and now the animal is (still) sick with a RI? And a vet still isnt an option??

    Either get it to a vet, or give it away to someone who can (and will) afford it.

    Just my two cents.

    :rage:

    well like everyone ur two cents is cool lol but really no one will take a insane skink who bites anything that touches him lol so if i dont get the info i need to treat him hes going to die.. and atm i dont really care since if i cant play with him i dont need to spend the money to keep his lights on... or buy his baby food lol so is the biotic amoxicilin? because i have some of that... do i put it in his mouth or does he need injects?
  • 03-13-2010, 02:52 PM
    flynn
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    So you have turned the lights off on this skink because you cant play with him? Dont you think this will make its health worse? How are you maintaining the 95-100f baskinng spot BTS need?

    Theres no point in medicating if you have already given up on basic husbandry.


    As far as your question, the medication should say how to apply it. Meds taken oraly or externally can not be injected and vice versa. If it is infact a RI then you will need injections of 'something'. What the medication is, is usually dictated by a culture test done by a vet. This is all regurged information however, as I have no first hand experience with having to give reptiles meds.

    I wish your skink luck. I wish for some things for yourself as well. Not as nice as the skink though.
  • 03-14-2010, 12:54 PM
    rabernet
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    well like everyone ur two cents is cool lol but really no one will take a insane skink who bites anything that touches him lol so if i dont get the info i need to treat him hes going to die.. and atm i dont really care since if i cant play with him i dont need to spend the money to keep his lights on... or buy his baby food lol so is the biotic amoxicilin? because i have some of that... do i put it in his mouth or does he need injects?

    Wow.......:mad:
  • 03-14-2010, 02:11 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    well like everyone ur two cents is cool lol but really no one will take a insane skink who bites anything that touches him lol so if i dont get the info i need to treat him hes going to die.. and atm i dont really care since if i cant play with him i dont need to spend the money to keep his lights on... or buy his baby food lol so is the biotic amoxicilin? because i have some of that... do i put it in his mouth or does he need injects?


    Okay, I'm going to send you a nickel's worth of advice. If you live within 100 miles from me (Baltimore Maryland), I'll take the skink. If not, I think you need someone that will take the skink from you. With the responses I've read, you don't seem to have the will to do what it must take to work with the skink enough to cure the infection. Without a vet visit, do you actually know what's wrong with the BTS?

    Please find someone that will help this BTS.
    Jim Smith
  • 03-14-2010, 09:20 PM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    yeah, so this is his wife, we haven't given up on the skink, i made a appointment for it, Also, if some of you have nothing nice to say keep your traps shut, he ( my husband ) was having a bad day, we still get the skink out & play with him, he still snaps at us & tries to bite, anyway,Flynn, we do love & care about our skink in "the long run" so before you Attempt to say what we do or do not care about , learn about the people/ person you are trying to figure out!!
  • 03-14-2010, 09:28 PM
    cinderbird
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    yeah, so this is his wife, we haven't given up on the skink, i made a appointment for it, Also, if some of you have nothing nice to say keep your traps shut, he ( my husband ) was having a bad day, we still get the skink out & play with him, he still snaps at us & tries to bite, anyway,Flynn, we do love & care about our skink in "the long run" so before you Attempt to say what we do or do not care about , learn about the people/ person you are trying to figure out!!

    you can't say you're not giving an animal its proper husbandry requirements (ie turning the lights off) in one sentence, and then say that you love the animal dearly and that we should all be quiet and go away in the next because you care "oh so much" about your animal.

    The bottom line is:

    if you cannot afford veterinary care, or provide your animal with its proper requirements, you are not a suitable owner for that animal. period.

    Money gets tight, we understand that. But this forum is NO substitute for a qualified vet to treat an animal. Quite a few people recommended a vet because of their concern for the welfare of the animal.

    I am glad that he's going to see a vet. It is a very nice thing for you guys to give a less than loveable animal a home, but remember, the animals needs come first because they rely completely on their owners. They are helpless to get themselves out of a bad situation. Please remember this.

    Good luck with his treatment, let us know how it goes.
  • 03-14-2010, 09:32 PM
    j_h_smith
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    yeah, so this is his wife, we haven't given up on the skink, i made a appointment for it, Also, if some of you have nothing nice to say keep your traps shut, he ( my husband ) was having a bad day, we still get the skink out & play with him, he still snaps at us & tries to bite, anyway,Flynn, we do love & care about our skink in "the long run" so before you Attempt to say what we do or do not care about , learn about the people/ person you are trying to figure out!!

    I'm glad you are going to take care of the BTS, but you can't fault us, when your husband says he's going to let the skink die. To be honest with you, the BTS should not be "played with". He should be left along in a slightly warmer enclosure. Since you really don't know what's wrong with the BTS, you could be doing more harm than good.

    If you and your husband come here looking for help, then get some information that you don't like to hear, then maybe it's you that need to look at the situation. You asked for help, we told you what you did not want to hear and now you tell us to "keep your traps shut".

    That's fine. I think you will find many here, more than willing to help anyone, but you've got to take the good with the bad.

    I think I will take your advise and I will keep my trap shut.

    Good Luck,
    Jim Smith
  • 03-15-2010, 11:25 AM
    rabernet
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tizzle89 View Post
    yeah, so this is his wife, we haven't given up on the skink, i made a appointment for it, Also, if some of you have nothing nice to say keep your traps shut, he ( my husband ) was having a bad day, we still get the skink out & play with him, he still snaps at us & tries to bite, anyway,Flynn, we do love & care about our skink in "the long run" so before you Attempt to say what we do or do not care about , learn about the people/ person you are trying to figure out!!

    It's nice that you are sticking up for your husband but:

    Quote:

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  • 03-18-2010, 01:06 PM
    tizzle89
    Re: blue tongue skink issues
    oh, ok, well she didn't know that, & i am paraphrasing for her, she was telling Flynn to not try to categorize us as uncaring, or irresponsible, she wouldn't let me turn the lights off, she got a antibiotic for him , & yes we are doing what needs to be done!

    my part:
    I appreciate the help& as my wife puts it, i don't like being talked to like im a little kid, which as my wife stated make sure you know those you are trying to figure out, don't jump to conclusions!
    thanks
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