Het VPI Axanthics

My Hets will not lock up, the female seems interested, but the male doesn't.

I am debating on putting in my pastel or woma (I have a friend's Woma here breeding right now) in with the female and just holding back a male to try for axanthic combos.

Which would you do?

Het VPI Axanthic x Het VPI Axanthic
Het VPI Axanthic x Pastel
Het VPI Axanthic x Woma

Try to put the Pastel or Woma in there with her, and see if they lock up. If they do, pull the Pastel/Woma, and put the Het male back in. She may just not have large enough follicles (i.e. be putting off enough pheromones) to interest the Het, but another male used to start her up may help.

She tail wags and scents all over the tub when I put him in. I have tried using the shed of my other males and it doesn't make a difference. I will try with the woma and then throw the het male in.

This is my wife's most anticipated pairing, she really wants to see that silver and black. I figure if he never gets the hang of it, I can use the woma and have a chance at axanthic womas next year. :D

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

She tail wags and scents all over the tub when I put him in. I have tried using the shed of my other males and it doesn't make a difference. I will try with the woma and then throw the het male in.

This is my wife's most anticipated pairing, she really wants to see that silver and black. I figure if he never gets the hang of it, I can use the woma and have a chance at axanthic womas next year. :D

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If she is doing that, then she is ready, and it sounds like a male problem. Here is one more trick that you can try. Take some sperm from your Pastel or Woma, and wipe it on the neck of your Het girl, and then put the male Het in the tub. This may also spur him into breeding, by thinking he is competing with another male.

I can never seem to get sperm plugs from my other males without urates. (ewww) But I will give it a shot.

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

I can never seem to get sperm plugs from my other males without urates. (ewww) But I will give it a shot.

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Your pushing to hard James, gentle, nice and gentle. J/k I get urates too when popping, a good hand sanitizer is a must :P

Yellow belly ax would be sweet too :)

I'd vote but the woma used to be mine*biased opinions won't help* ;)

Hi,

Do you have any other females at breeding age?

Maybe you could put their sheds in with the het axanthics to see if that gets his junk inna funk.


dr del

I wouldnt put a het with a co-dom, it would be just a heart breaker for you if you dont figure out the hets and poss hets later on. I guess just give the guy some time :P

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Originally Posted by Danounet

I wouldnt put a het with a co-dom, it would be just a heart breaker for you if you dont figure out the hets and poss hets later on. I guess just give the guy some time :P

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Yes and no. If it were a female co-dom to the het then it could be bad, but since the breeding female is the het I can prove the possibles out the next year.

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Originally Posted by dr del

Hi,

Do you have any other females at breeding age?

Maybe you could put their sheds in with the het axanthics to see if that gets his junk inna funk.


dr del

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My YB just shed yesterday so I put her shed in and placed the female in the male's tub this time, I woke up to tails curled, but no for sure lock, they could've locked overnight, but we will see.

They are both from Adam Wysocki, she is an 08 at about 1400g, he is an 07 at about 1300g. Hoping things start moving along. :D

You can tease him with another male.... Just watch em, Id go for Axanthics though...

Good luck man...

I would give the hets more time, but that's because I don't have the patience to deal with possible hets. Let's say you throw a woma at her and get multiple male womas poss het axanthic from the pairing. Do you have enough het females or axanthic females to prove them all out next year? It will take many years to prove out all of them if you just have the one breeding size het axanthic female. I'd stick with the known hets, then use a visual axanthic male to make your codom 100% hets.

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Originally Posted by herpenthusiast

I would give the hets more time, but that's because I don't have the patience to deal with possible hets. Let's say you throw a woma at her and get multiple male womas poss het axanthic from the pairing. Do you have enough het females or axanthic females to prove them all out next year? It will take many years to prove out all of them if you just have the one breeding size het axanthic female. I'd stick with the known hets, then use a visual axanthic male to make your codom 100% hets.

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This is what I meant when I said this:

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Originally Posted by Danounet

I wouldnt put a het with a co-dom, it would be just a heart breaker for you if you dont figure out the hets and poss hets later on. I guess just give the guy some time :P

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UPDATE!

Thank you to all who suggested I keep at the hets. We have a storm moving in so I paired up my females who havent ovulated and all locked. EVEN MY HETS! Finally got a visual lock from these two. So lets hope that they have been locking and that I just never saw any of them. :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...lxCitrine2.jpg

:taz::banana::taz::banana:

Nice lock!

And what a storm it was, short lived, but dang the wind blew :rolleye2:
Congrats James, hoping you get some silver and black :)

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

And what a storm it was, short lived, but dang the wind blew :rolleye2:
Congrats James, hoping you get some silver and black :)

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They have all been locked for 3 days straight now. My hets, YB x YB and normal x Pastel.

Plus my 2500g girl just had her pre-lay shed this morning. :D

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Originally Posted by Turbo Serpent

They have all been locked for 3 days straight now. My hets, YB x YB and normal x Pastel.

Plus my 2500g girl just had her pre-lay shed this morning. :D

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Sweet!
Waiting for eggs soon myself, pre-lay was earlier this week :banana:
That storm seems to have perked up all of our females :D