Requesting Boa Info Please

Before I say anything, Boas are "the" snakes that made me fall in love with snakes in the first place, but I have hold out in getting one until I find the right one for me and other issues.

First question is color. It seems to me that Boas go through a color change with age, or is it just different colors of the same sub-species? For example, I'm realy interested in Surinames. I realy like the gray-ish looking color of them, but that seems to be a "youth" (I keep reading "neaonate" Im guessing thats a young boa) color? If I'm right, what is the final color of a Suriname boa?

Example Here, first top left picture, I realy like those colors.
http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/boas_suriname.htm

Second is size. Is a male Suriname a Boa that I will always Be able to handle by my self alone? If not what are other options of similar color?

Third is temperament. Are they a easy Boa to deal with?

Also Please! Could anyone post pictures of their Surinames and their Ages?

Thanks!

I would stay bci if you are wanting to be able to handle by yourself from now on... Bci (like columbians) stay smaller,Bcc (like surinames) tend to get quite large, over 10 feet. In my oppenion Columbians are quite beautiful all of tgheir lives

My absolute favorite boas are BCCs. They are absolutely the most beautiful of the boas, they are just out of this world!!

Peruvians are probably my favorite, but sometimes it's a tossup between a spectacular Peruvian and a spectacular Suriname.

They do get bigger, however for me that is part of the appeal as well. A male will get big, but I would never consider it a snake that you couldn't handle by yourself. Big females can be VERY impressive in size, and a good part of that is that they are just a heavy bodied snake as well. If you don't want a 60+lb snake, just get a male. It will get big, but that's part of the fun! They are certainly a manageable size.

As with all snakes, there are a range of temperments, and some snakes will just be snappy their entire life. There are plenty (I'd say most, but I haven't personally met "most") of BCCs and BCIs that are kitten-tame. They do have a fairly strong feeding response, so that is something to always watch out for.

P.S. I believe BP.net's very own JimiSnakes of www.jimisnakes.com has a pair of adult Surinames, but his website does not list any babies for sale. He would be a great guy to talk to because he knows just about everything there is to know about boas.

Check out his website for a pic of one of his adults

I dont mind if they are big, But ofcourse I dont want something that I cant handle by my self, or would be a danger by my self. I seem to like more BCCs as well. But still, most of my questions are still standing :P Thanks though.

all snakes go thru a slight color change from baby to adult it should be expected. as for size i have a female BCI who is about 8 foot and from what i read the sarinames are bcc so and they tend to get a bit bigger

I don't have a suriname boa but I do have a male Guyana who is also a BCC.

Babies tend to be more gray but they usually brown out as they age. But if you get a good quality snake it won't be just brown. It will have pinks and purples.

You should have no trouble handling a male by yourself.

I had a BCI a few years ago who was satan in scales. The BCC that I have now is a total sweetheart and everything I read told me the opposite. That BCC were evil and BCI were angels. Temperment really depends on the snake.

If you're on the fence about getting a BCC, do it! They are so pretty. That's why there are no BCC morphs. Because you can't improve perfection. :P

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I don't have a suriname boa but I do have a male Guyana who is also a BCC.

Babies tend to be more gray but they usually brown out as they age. But if you get a good quality snake it won't be just brown. It will have pinks and purples.

You should have no trouble handling a male by yourself.

I had a BCI a few years ago who was satan in scales. The BCC that I have now is a total sweetheart and everything I read told me the opposite. That BCC were evil and BCI were angels. Temperment really depends on the snake.

If you're on the fence about getting a BCC, do it! They are so pretty. That's why there are no BCC morphs. Because you can't improve perfection. :P

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I do want a BCC, I'm having trouble deciding which though. How old is your male? do you have any recent pictures of him?

Thanks.

Yes you can handle one by yourself,provideing your not 2'6" tall..lol..
The color gray is normal for youngsters in many of the sub species..
If this is the color your after you may want to look at the peruvian animals
which many a times will be colored as such..The peruvian BC longicaudia is a essentually a bicolored animal of black and gray and carries a wicked appearence..The other 2 peruvians are generally advertised as locale animals Pacaupa and Iquitos the grayer of the two..Which you can find here from some of the members..

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I do want a BCC, I'm having trouble deciding which though. How old is your male? do you have any recent pictures of him?

Thanks.

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All I know is he is an '08. Not sure exactly when he was born but he hasn't filled out at all yet.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...l_thee/034.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...l_thee/003.jpg
http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...l_thee/029.jpg

Those are the most recent pictures I have of him but they are a few months old.

Everyone loves a nice BCC!

Here's my Suri pair-
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...Pair/bcc-5.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...Pair/BCC-1.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...Pair/BCC-3.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...Pair/BCC-2.jpg

Peruvian BCC-
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...n/06peru1f.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...n/06peru1m.jpg

There's just sooo many cool natural boa localities, how can anyone just have one???

Argentine BCO-
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...Argentine1.jpg

Hog Island BCI-
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...02008/Hog2.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...02008/Hog1.jpg

And don't forget Dumerils too!
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y88...2008/Dums2.jpg

Awesome! I wish I had as much room to keep them as you lol....

The colors of the male Suriname is just awesome and the size of the female just dwarfs the male!

They are all awesome examples, I like the colors of that Hog Island male too ;)

You saw pics of my 2 youngsters on here not that long ago. Suri's can vary but they should always have the same basic look and traits that no other boa's have.

My female looks like Jimisnakes female. She has much more pink along her sides and a crimson tail. My male looks like his male. A more creamy look. I went with a russo line suri because his tend to throw striped babies and have less pepper spots. My female came from a different breeder because of all her pink.

Like many other boas, they can change color from one minute to the next too. Some days my female is very pink. Other days she looks like she crawled through charcoal. Its really neat to see the different day/night/mood color changes.

If you get a BCC just be choosy. Talk to breeders. Tell them what you want exactly. Find one that is already calm and easy to handle. Then just handle it regularly and you will never have anything to worry about.

My male is a 2 1/2 ft handfull because he is so skittish. I have to work very slowly and consistently with him. He is getting better though. The female will just curl up in my lap and stay there. You want one like that right off the bat.

Dont worry. You'll find what your looking for and when you do you'll be in love :love: :snake:

I been reading alot these last 2 days, I think I have a better understanding of the different colorations of the same Boa.

There is not a very detail Boa Caresheet here in bp.net, Specialy when it comes to details like Boa changing colors from one day to the other, I always had a vague Idea that Boas went through just an "Age color chage" and then stayed like that color.

Finding info in different sites and putting it together has taken me some time. Im still learning, but Surinames have realy caught my eye, specialy as my first Boa.

:gj: Sure is good to see that Bob Sears line of animals are alive and well,
Sweet looking animals..:gj:
Thanks Jimi,
Tim.

Well I've been reading alot about boas now. I even looked into BCIs and morphs. There are some nice BCI morphs, but I realy wasnt into them while I was ready about them and looking at pics. The only one I liked was the Anery.

So I've realy come to the conclusion that I want a Suriname preferably or an Anery, either way the Anery would be a good learning Boa, since I've never had one. Male either way. Now to the issue of IBD and my BPs. How would I go about finding a "IBD free" Boa breeder?

Thanks. :)

If you really like the grey color on Boas take a look at BCI Anerys, Ghost and Motleys! The Colombian Boas tend to stay smaller than most BCC too!:gj:

Thats tricky. Any new boa you get should be kept in a seperate enclosure preferably in a different room from the BP's for at least 3 months. If you're worried about IBD then look for a baby that is an 08' or early 09'. Babies are more like to show signs early on so if its from a decent breeder that does not constantly swap out their animals like a dealer does, you shouldnt have anything to worry about. Getting one that is at least 6 months old or more will be more likely to be healthy if it is from the breeder that produced it and has been taken care of.

You shouldnt even have to worry about IBD if you buy from a good breeder though. Regardless of age. Just check the BOI on fauna for any breeder you may buy from.

Mine was labled as a Peruvian when I purchased it through Exotic Reptile Jungle. She changes colors daily. I have not quite figured it out yet, but sometimes she will be on the lighter side of grey and at other times, be more brown.

She's currently 38" and just a doll.

http://adventurousguy.com/prtb/IMG_0517.JPG
http://adventurousguy.com/other/reiandeve.jpg

Good luck in your search! I wanted a hogg island but they just didn't have the personality I was looking for. When we found Eve, we just fell in love.

Oh wow why did you revived this thread LOL. Now I want that RTB bad again!

As far as BCCs I really like the male suris colors and muscular bodies.

and as far as BCI morphs aneries seem pretty cool. But I would most likely just get a suri.

At least I've made my choice now. But still at this point in my life I dont have a permanent home and Im scared I will get my self in too deep by getting a RTB.

I might just find out Jimi Snakes address and go rob him of his male Suri from the pictures he posted!

Thanks though!

BCI FTW:D

If you are actually concerned about the size, I would consider just getting a male BCI since they don't get very large. I would like to keep my male and see him get to be an adult but boas aren't my thing, though I wouldn't mind trading him for a Dumeril's boa:D

I opted for a male Caulkers Cay and a male Costa Rican. Both BCI's.

Dan, here are 2 links you can check out, if you haven't already found them...


http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/contactinformation/

http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/index.htm?502ba930

im not a boa guy but i took a im a common boa and she has grown on me. She was previously fed only once a month and i was told she is 10 years old. Shes got some size to her and can be on the cranky side at times but once she is out of her enclosure she calms down. If i was going to get a boa from a baby it would prob have to be an albino.

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I opted for a male Caulkers Cay and a male Costa Rican. Both BCI's.

Dan, here are 2 links you can check out, if you haven't already found them...


http://www.cuttingedgeherp.com/contactinformation/

http://www.riobravoreptiles.com/index.htm?502ba930

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I have seen those sites, but thanks for trying to help either way. Also, they reminded me of the Longicauda. I love those too. Like I said, my living situation is the problem now. But Im sure that will get better with time. Im not in a hurry since I dont plan to breed Boas.

surinamboas.com --- Marc Duhon
Gonna meet this guy soon. He lives about 5 minutes from me.
Check out Bolivians if you get a chance.

Talked to Marc last night. Very nice and like a reptile encyclopedia.
We are the same age(tooo old) and my wife is the same age as his girlfriend. We'll get together in the near future to check out each other's snakes, etc..
Looking at his website would make all of us want a BCC!