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Breeding a normal?

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  • 02-04-2010, 07:09 PM
    Lorgakor
    Breeding a normal?
    If I bred a normal female to a morph, would I get 50% normals and 50% whatever morph it is? I confess I'm having a really hard time understanding the whole genetics thing.

    I am getting a super gorgeous normal soon, and I don't know if I will ever breed because she will be my first ball python, but I thought I would find out for the future. Thanks!
  • 02-04-2010, 07:13 PM
    rabernet
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Lorgakor View Post
    If I bred a normal female to a morph, would I get 50% normals and 50% whatever morph it is? I confess I'm having a really hard time understanding the whole genetics thing.

    I am getting a super gorgeous normal soon, and I don't know if I will ever breed because she will be my first ball python, but I thought I would find out for the future. Thanks!

    If you breed her to a co-dominant or dominant gene, each EGG from the clutch will have a 50% chance of being either a normal or that mutation that you bred her to.
  • 02-04-2010, 07:26 PM
    Lorgakor
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Ah okay, thank you.:)

    What about a recessive? Or a normal that is het for something? Would it be the same thing?
  • 02-04-2010, 07:28 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Well, a homozygous recessive to a normal gives you all normals 100% het for the trait. A het to a normal gives you all normals 50% het for the trait.
  • 02-04-2010, 07:31 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Het to het gives you...
    25% homozygous(showing the trait)
    50% hets(66% hets is what they are called)
    25% normals
  • 02-04-2010, 07:33 PM
    Lorgakor
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    That's great, thanks so much for the info.:)
  • 02-04-2010, 10:31 PM
    kc261
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twistedtails View Post
    Well, a homozygous recessive to a normal gives you all normals 100% het for the trait. A het to a normal gives you all normals 50% het for the trait.

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by twistedtails View Post
    Het to het gives you...
    25% homozygous(showing the trait)
    50% hets(66% hets is what they are called)
    25% normals

    That is all correct, except if you don't understand genetics yet, it might be confusing. I'll try to make it a little more clear.

    recessive het x normal =
    50% hets
    50% normals
    You will not be able to visually distinguish the hets from the normals (that's part of the definition of recessive), so ALL of the babies are considered 50% possible hets. On average, half of them should prove out as het, and half of them should prove out as normal.

    recessive het x recessive het =
    25% visual recessive
    50% hets
    25% normals
    Again, you won't be able to visually distinguish the hets from the normals. You will, however, be able to recognize the visual one, so it goes out of the equation for phets. Out of the remaining hatchlings, 2 out of 3 should prove out as het, and the 3rd should prove out as normal, thus they are considered 66% possible hets.

    Hope that makes it more clear for you.
  • 02-05-2010, 03:18 AM
    MustBeSatan
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Learn Punnett squares! They're the most useful tool in determining genetic outcome since a slightly less useful tool in determining genetic outcome!

    http://www.schools.utah.gov/CURR/Sci...er/punnett.htm

    Hope that helps. Play around with them a little bit, once you get the hang of the concept you can wow your friends by theoretically combining the genetic potentials of any two donors! You'll be the envy of all you meet! You'll get attractive women to fall head over heels for you!

    Trust me, it worked for me.
  • 02-05-2010, 12:49 PM
    Lorgakor
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Well, I don't need the attractive women to fall over me, as I don't swing that way.:P Although my husband might think it was pretty neat lol!

    Thank you everyone, this really helped.:)
  • 02-05-2010, 02:03 PM
    ls1goat04
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    go here and at the top click on genetic wizard. pretty cool

    http://www.worldofballpythons.com/morphs/
  • 02-05-2010, 02:24 PM
    Lorgakor
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Thank you, that is a very cool link!
  • 02-05-2010, 02:46 PM
    twistedtails
    Re: Breeding a normal?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MustBeSatan View Post
    Learn Punnett squares! They're the most useful tool in determining genetic outcome since a slightly less useful tool in determining genetic outcome!

    http://www.schools.utah.gov/CURR/Sci...er/punnett.htm

    Hope that helps. Play around with them a little bit, once you get the hang of the concept you can wow your friends by theoretically combining the genetic potentials of any two donors! You'll be the envy of all you meet! You'll get attractive women to fall head over heels for you!

    Trust me, it worked for me.

    That's kinda funny cause once I learned the punnet square my wife wanted to divorce me? I thought all those women wanted to know what a guy that "looked" like me, and their children would look like. I get it now!:banana:
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