What came first?

I don't want to drive anyone crazy with any lees than two brain cells...But...What came first, the snake or the egg?

the chicken DUH! wait why isn't the chicken in the poll??? :rage::rage::rage::rage:

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Originally Posted by Reediculous

the chicken DUH! wait why isn't the chicken in the poll??? :rage::rage::rage::rage:

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Because we are not talking about one of these...
http://www.geekologie.com/2009/09/15/snake-foot.jpg

That thing is disturbing. If the question is "what came first, the egg or the wierd snake with one leg sticking awkwardly out of it", my vote is that the egg that thing hatched out of was a little too close to something highly radioactive. Yikes.

And just in case you were looking for a legitimate response to the question, I vote the egg.

My reasoning follows simple evolutionary theory: At some point, something that was not quite a snake hatched out a mutated offspring that was, officially, a snake. That little mutant baby did well, and before you know it he was fathering (or mothering, I'm not sexist with my theoretical mutant snake babies) all over the place.

The first snake obviously survived better than that freaky snake with the one leg. Otherwise we'd all be breeding the fantastic Peg-Legged Pythons.

Eggs don't just appear out of nowhere, although I'm sure some of us wish they did. The snake came first.

Then what did the first snake hatch out of?

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I rest my case.

and the age old debate has began

I'm sitting this one out with a kewl beverage and a smile :D

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Originally Posted by snakesRkewl

and the age old debate has began

I'm sitting this one out with a kewl beverage and a smile :D

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I fugured it hadn't been debated in a while. So...What the hell!

If there was an egg laying creature before there were snakes, then the egg. If not, then the snake.

but not all snakes are born from eggs so now we are at a connundrum

The answer is simple.Since God created everything he did not need to wait until the eggs hatched.So the snake came first :P

If your religious, then you will say the snake seeing God created all animals at once in pure form.

If your not, then it all depends on WHAT u consider a "snake" evolution states that things evolved from one organelle. Sooo at what point in the evolutionary tree did the first snake come to be. My guess would have to be the egg b/c for a snake to come to b/c we see vestigial structures on the snake that were either deformities or weaned out. Most likely than not a mutant something was born without a leg or 2 or with shorter and shorter legs. So the first "snake" would have to be from an EGG. As evolution happens in generations not to a species as it's living to something had to be born as a snake to be a snake.

Take your pick

The egg. Because according to harry potter, the baskalisk ( For those who do not know... a giant deadly snake...) is hatched from a chickens egg that is incubated under a toad.

So HA

Ya God probably created the snake first. Or maybe both a full grown snake and an egg.....ohhhhhhhh

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Originally Posted by Monty

but not all snakes are born from eggs so now we are at a connundrum

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Not really, live bearers could just be more evolved.

Well, in MY house, the snake(s) came first - then the eggs! :rofl:

You didn't say in what situation the snake or the egg came first! Right? Right?????

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Originally Posted by MustBeSatan

And just in case you were looking for a legitimate response to the question, I vote the egg.

My reasoning follows simple evolutionary theory: At some point, something that was not quite a snake hatched out a mutated offspring that was, officially, a snake. That little mutant baby did well, and before you know it he was fathering (or mothering, I'm not sexist with my theoretical mutant snake babies) all over the place.

The first snake obviously survived better than that freaky snake with the one leg. Otherwise we'd all be breeding the fantastic Peg-Legged Pythons.

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i was going to post the same thing ,lol.

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Well, in MY house, the snake(s) came first - then the eggs! :rofl:

You didn't say in what situation the snake or the egg came first! Right? Right?????

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I Totally Agree!!! You don't pick up eggs on reptiles show or pet stores.. You get Snakes... eventually This snakes lay eggs...
So in my case like in Yours... SNAKE WAS FIRST!!!.... (Still waiting for egg) ;)

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Originally Posted by rabernet

Well, in MY house, the snake(s) came first - then the eggs! :rofl:

You didn't say in what situation the snake or the egg came first! Right? Right?????

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Now your confusing me...I was supposed to be the one confusing people with this thread here darnit! I'm only as smart as the monkey in my avatar.

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Originally Posted by MustBeSatan

And just in case you were looking for a legitimate response to the question, I vote the egg.

My reasoning follows simple evolutionary theory: At some point, something that was not quite a snake hatched out a mutated offspring that was, officially, a snake. That little mutant baby did well, and before you know it he was fathering (or mothering, I'm not sexist with my theoretical mutant snake babies) all over the place.

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this is my reasoning for it too :gj:
its just like creating morphs! a bumblebee was produced in an egg by a pastel and a spider. the bumblebee didnt come out of the female first, it was the egg that was gona host teh bee :gj:.

now the bumblebee can produce more bees =]. and travis looked down and smiled at his bees.. ya rite =(.. some day

tell you what i came first. i scared the crapp out of the lizzard so much that it ran and forgot its legs. haha so the snake

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Originally Posted by MustBeSatan

And just in case you were looking for a legitimate response to the question, I vote the egg.

My reasoning follows simple evolutionary theory: At some point, something that was not quite a snake hatched out a mutated offspring that was, officially, a snake. That little mutant baby did well, and before you know it he was fathering (or mothering, I'm not sexist with my theoretical mutant snake babies) all over the place.

The first snake obviously survived better than that freaky snake with the one leg. Otherwise we'd all be breeding the fantastic Peg-Legged Pythons.

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So what happened to the something that was not quite a snake(or for that matter the fossils of the not quite a snakes)?;)

The egg...because it got laid? :D

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Originally Posted by herpenthusiast

So what happened to the something that was not quite a snake(or for that matter the fossils of the not quite a snakes)?;)

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We probably haven't found them yet. Just because they haven't been unearthed yet doesn't mean they don't exist. Here's a link to a primitive snake with well defined hip bones..

Here

Some snakes still have remains of a pelvis/legs in the form of vestigial bones.. This is also true for whales (vestigial leg bones)

There are MANY transitional fossils out there, you just have to do some research, open your mind, and look ;)


Edit: I am also on the egg boat.

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Originally Posted by herpenthusiast

So what happened to the something that was not quite a snake(or for that matter the fossils of the not quite a snakes)?;)

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I ate it.