which hypo do you like?

well, i am buying one of these hypos but i am stuck. i cant pick one! so i am going to make a vote!whitch one do you like(keep in mind they lose color with age to the bigger one dose not have as mutch color)?so who will it be?:confused:

hear is the link. http://gallery.pethobbyist.com/data/57571ghosts.jpg

#1(bigger)
or #2(smaller)

If I only had them two to choose from I would go with the smaller one! There are alot of nice Hypos out there!

I'd wait it out for a nicer one personally

If I HAD to pick one I'd pick the smaller one but I've seen nicer hypos before and I would not personally purchase either of them. The one on the left barely looks like a hypo to me.

smaller one, depends on the price tho, I don't think its bad looking just no wow factor at all. personally I'd try to find another one.

Yeah don't waste your money on those, with morphs like ghosts and hypos, you have to find a good one, just like pastels, in order to make it most worth your while. Plus if i were you i would wait, spend another $50 a get a great looking ghost from someone else.

Agreed... Niether... But if I had to choose, it'd be the smaller one.

i know, its just they are only $ea,very healthy,and are still a hypo. cumon,only $100!:D

i found a hypo for 250 shipped and its most beautifull hypo ever, its 100 more, i could get two!:rofl:

i know you have to shop the snake not the price but still.

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Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele

i know, its just they are only $ea,very healthy,and are still a hypo. cumon,only $100!:D

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for a lot of people here, they would rather hold out and spend more money on an animal that WOWs them (especially if they plan on breeding it) rather than picking up the first available animal or the "best deal"

Like most other people, i'd pass on both of them. No offense to the breeder or producer but they don't meet my personal quality standards. Pets? Sure. Future breeders? Not for me.

I hope your plans do not include breeding Balls, because what you are telling everyone who reads this is, you care more about price than quality. That way of thinking is fine if you are buying a Ball for your kid to have as a pet, but not if you are setting up animals to eventually breed.

Dave

i dont know what to say, i alredy sead yes to the man.

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Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele

i dont know what to say

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You seem to say this sentence alot ;).

Maurice, your threads are often the same and lots of people have given you good advice that you seem to ignore. You should re-read some of the threads you've started and absorb what people have said. Why would you ask advice and continue to ignore it?

I really think you should buy one of them, that way you can learn your lesson the way we ALL have, the hard way. That way when they grow up and look like a normal, you will then say to yourself, "dang i really wish i'd just spent an extra hundred bucks!"

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Originally Posted by David Green

Why would you ask advice and continue to ignore it?

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Sadly thats what kids do these days :(.

I am assuming they are both males, and in my opinion, in any project, your male should be the best looking snake. For example, if I was going to start a Ghost project, and I got a great deal on a female Ghost that was just ok looking, I would probably take her. I would also probably get a Pastel Het Ghost and maybe a Het Ghost female. When it came to choosing the male Ghost, or Pastel Ghost, I would choose only a male that was a 10. Why? Your male is going to be bred to multiple females, so you want a looker male to breed to your females. If you have a male that is a 10, and your female was only an 8, you should still come out with great looking offspring. If you buy a Het female, or Pastel Het female, you will probably not know how any Ghost siblings turned out, and that is not the end of the world if you have a REALLY nice male. If you buy an ugly male, and you have Het females and have no clue what the adults looked like, chances are, you are going to end up with just average or below average offspring.

If for some reason, the pictures you posted of the two Ghosts are pictures of females, buy them both, if they are asking $100 each and they are healthy. Then, buy yourself a stunning Ghost male and you should have some nice babies eventually.

This is all just my opinion, and could be totally wrong....

Dave

what do i do, i already told the man i was sending him the check, i asked for his adress and everyting.:(

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Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele

what do i do, i already told the man i was sending him the check, i asked for his adress and everyting.:(

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Then you honor the commitment you made, and hopefully learn from this experience.

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Originally Posted by kc261

then you honor the commitment you made, and hopefully learn from this experience.

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+1

#2 will be a better looking adult. I don't know who told you that Hypos lose color as they age, but they were wrong. They do change color almost their entire life, but they surely don't lose it.

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Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele

what do i do, i already told the man i was sending him the check, i asked for his adress and everyting.:(

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Then why did you ask our opinion? :confused:

Here's an example - I spoke to another forum member about a snake that I want to purchase from them. They quoted me a price, but told me to go to the show today to see if I found something I liked better. I found the same morph at almost the same quality at the show for $100 less. I say almost the same, because I know this was a broker, and I know I won't have any customer service after the sale.

Did I come home with it? Nope - I decided I'd rather purchase from this member and support someone that I know, rather than someone that I didn't. And the animal that I chose from this member is stunning and I can't wait to bring him home. I knew that I could have easily purchased the animal at the show today and been very happy with him, but I just am just as happy - wait, no - I'm happier to pay more for the animal that I really wanted. And I believe that quality is more than just the snake - it's also what you get after the sale and how that breeder keeps your animal while it's still in their care.

I also know that this member is also as picky as I am when it comes to their selective breeding.

You're young - and because you are young, you are impulsive and want things right now, rather than taking your time to really search for an ideal animal. It could take MONTHS (and in my case on some of my animals, a year or two) to search and find the animal that meets your expectations.

But, as someone else said, people here have long memories, if you hope to breed and produce animals for sale, I personally would not look to you to purchase an animal, because you seem more fixated on the price and wanting everything RIGHT NOW rather than quality. If you'll take shortcuts on the animal, I have to wonder what else you'll take shortcuts on (feeding, housing, heat regulation, veterinary care, etc).

With that said - I wouldn't pick either one of them.

I have a question.Where are your parents? Whether you like it or not you are unable to enter into a legal contract to buy any reptiles.So unless you are lying to us about all these "transactions" you are making here left and right.You are pretending your older while talking to these people.Which is it?

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Originally Posted by joepythons

I have a question.Where are your parents? Whether you like it or not you are unable to enter into a legal contract to buy any reptiles.So unless you are lying to us about all these "transactions" you are making here left and right.You are pretending your older while talking to these people.Which is it?

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my mom makes the transactions...

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Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele

what do i do, i already told the man i was sending him the check, i asked for his adress and everyting.:(

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If you haven't sent the check, call him and say you're very sorry but you've changed your mind. You are under no obligation to buy anything from anyone.

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Originally Posted by David Green

Maurice, your threads are often the same and lots of people have given you good advice that you seem to ignore. You should re-read some of the threads you've started and absorb what people have said. Why would you ask advice and continue to ignore it?

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your right, i am going to get the hypo(i already sead yes)from the man. but i wont breed him i will just keep him as a pet. i am going to save up my alounace and get the nicest example i can fund.i gess it fianly sunk in, thanks guys.:)

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Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele

your right, i am going to get the hypo(i already sead yes)from the man. but i wont breed him i will just keep him as a pet. i am going to save up my alounace and get the nicest example i can fund.i gess it fianly sunk in, thanks guys.:)

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Oddly enough, and i don't know why i get this feeling, but i feel you really haven't learned anything and it will take losing either an animal because you bought a cheap example with a RI, or losing a thousand dollars because the cheap "breedable het lavender albino female" you bought is a normal male.

Hopefully next time you post it wont be because you want our opinion on something, but because you honestly need our help.

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Originally Posted by Maurice Tebele

your right, i am going to get the hypo(i already sead yes)from the man. but i wont breed him i will just keep him as a pet. i am going to save up my alounace and get the nicest example i can fund.i gess it fianly sunk in, thanks guys.:)

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Its obvious you are still ignoring everything said because your reply has nothing to do with what David said.

And the grammar in your responses is killing me. I'm sorry but if you plan on becoming a breeder and hope to sell any offspring your snakes produce, you will not get much business with the way you are posting and the quality of snakes you are looking to purchase. When I first got here I may have been like you, wanting to get my hands on as many morphs as possible, no matter what their quality. Then I spent time on these boards and talked with so many wonderful people and I realized that if I want to take any pride in my collection, whether I'm just keeping them as pets or for breeding, then I will need to not only strive to obtain the best examples I can find of any morph (even hets!) but to also heed the advice of these wonderful people. You are young and even if you've been keeping ball pythons since you were in diapers, there are those on this forum with years and years of experience and want to share that experience with you so that you may become a good keeper/breeder. These people do not just post gibberish because they feel like it. They are actually trying to help you. If you plan to go anywhere as a breeder, I would listen to their advice.

Hi,

Well to be fair his signature does say;

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I am sorry in advance for the spelling above :rolleyes:

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So that indicates it is a known problem and doesn't need to be re-hashed.


dr del

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Originally Posted by fishboyUK

If you haven't sent the check, call him and say you're very sorry but you've changed your mind. You are under no obligation to buy anything from anyone.

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I strongly disagree! He said he told the man that he would buy the snake. If he said it out loud (on the phone maybe), he is under a verbal contract. If he said it in email or a text message, he is under a written contract. Informal contract, yes. Enforceable in court, probably not. But lack of formality or enforceability is a horrible reason to go back on your word. The seller has potentially stopped advertising the snake and/or passed up other offers.