his name is PIGGY

and... well... this is why.

https://ball-pythons.net/gallery/fil...ing_725794.jpg

eating during shed, can you see those blue eyes.

Awesome pic!

HAHAHA HILARIOUS PIC! The pink is like "OH NO!!!" Awesome picture!

I was just going to post that exact same thing Failshed but you beat me to it!
Nice avatar

Nice pic, but is that snake in shed? If so you might want to hold off on feeding next time, just a good habit to get into. I have seen horror pics of what can happen when snakes shed after a meal.

Very nice! :gj:

I'm not aware of any harm that can come from feeding while in shed. Most breeders feed their snakes on the same day regardless of who is or isn't in shed. Mine all eat on the same day, even when in blue. Don't worry about it :gj:

I love it when they eat in shed!

I was weary about feeding while in shed, then I tried it and there was no difference. You just have to know how the snake is going to react. For instance, I have two snakes whos strikes aren't the best, so if they're in blue on a feeding day, I won't feed them. My other one though... It doesn't matter if he's in shed or not, he'll eat it!

I always feed no matter what....and let me tell you...if I were to skip due to being blue. I would be in huge trouble with a couple of them. I swear they have calanders in their hides.

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Well I have seen 2 different snakes need serious attention when the snake shed and it rolled down and formed a knot around the food lump. Take the advice or don't, you will see a post about someone crying '' how did this happen '' sooner or later, just trying to help. See this site www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard the link of when things go bad, with the umbilical cord suffocated 2 different snkaes, same idea. If it happens to even 1 snake and can be avoided, it is 1 too many imo

Hi,

The shed thing is odd - I mean if you think about it, since they shed from head to tail, every part of the shed it is trying to get over the bump was loose enough for whatever caused the bump to get in there in the first place. :confused:


dr del

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Well I have seen 2 different snakes need serious attention when the snake shed and it rolled down and formed a knot around the food lump. Take the advice or don't, you will see a post about someone crying '' how did this happen '' sooner or later, just trying to help. See this site www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard the link of when things go bad, with the umbilical cord suffocated 2 different snkaes, same idea. If it happens to even 1 snake and can be avoided, it is 1 too many imo

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i dont know what kind of shed your snakes have but when my snakes shed with or with out a lump in their belly it just slides right off even if it were to "get stuck" on the lump the shed is very brittle and would just break.

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Hi,

The shed thing is odd - I mean if you think about it, since they shed from head to tail, every part of the shed it is trying to get over the bump was loose enough for whatever caused the bump to get in there in the first place. :confused:


dr del

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Ideally yes, but sometimes snakes shed comes of like rolling down pantyhose. and the snakes mid section gets wider toward the middle so the skin will get tighter if there is a food lump and might not be able to pass. Anyway there is also mention of this in VPI book, I don't think they would waste time talking about it if it never happens.

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Well I have seen 2 different snakes need serious attention when the snake shed and it rolled down and formed a knot around the food lump. Take the advice or don't, you will see a post about someone crying '' how did this happen '' sooner or later, just trying to help. See this site www.worldofballpythons.com/wizard the link of when things go bad, with the umbilical cord suffocated 2 different snkaes, same idea. If it happens to even 1 snake and can be avoided, it is 1 too many imo

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If you are feeding something that large that their skin can get stuck around it then you have other issues. And just incase you never noticed their skin is rather loose during shedding it in fact stretches. Now I am not saying that you have not seen that happen before but I just cannot see how it would cause a problem they arent going to be moving around and trying to shed while digesting anyways. And as stated before if you did have one try to shed then the skin would either tear or peal right off over the lump.

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Ideally yes, but sometimes snakes shed comes of like rolling down pantyhose. and the snakes mid section gets wider toward the middle so the skin will get tighter if there is a food lump and might not be able to pass. Anyway there is also mention of this in VPI book, I don't think they would waste time talking about it if it never happens.

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Can u share where in the book it mentions this I am intrigued by this Thanks.

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Can u share where in the book it mentions this I am intrigued by this Thanks.

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I apologize, I misspoke previously when I said I saw this in a VPI book. I actually saw it in a book from John Berry who if people don't know who he is, has one of the better morph books on BP called Designer Morphs.He is a licensed herpetologist and a legend in the industry. This is the direct quote

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Most, but not all ball pythons will go off their food while they are getting ready to shed. This is normal. Some ball pythons however can be so accustomed to feeding that they will still take food if offered to them while in shed. This is not a good practice. If their dry shed skin rolls down their bodies and gets caught up on the food item in their belly you can have a problem. If this were to go unnoticed the dry tight skin roll around them could damage your snake. Wait until they have shed and then feed them.

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I apologize, I misspoke previously when I said I saw this in a VPI book. I actually saw it in a book from John Berry who if people don't know who he is, has one of the better morph books on BP called Designer Morphs.He is a licensed herpetologist and a legend in the industry. This is the direct quote

Shedding:
Most, but not all ball pythons will go off their food while they are getting ready to shed. This is normal. Some ball pythons however can be so accustomed to feeding that they will still take food if offered to them while in shed. This is not a good practice. If their dry shed skin rolls down their bodies and gets caught up on the food item in their belly you can have a problem. If this were to go unnoticed the dry tight skin roll around them could damage your snake. Wait until they have shed and then feed them.

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Okay...1st of all, all I wanted to do was show a pic of my BP eating, thought it was a cool & funny pic.
2nd of all, when my BP is in shed his humidity is at 70% - 80% so there is no chance of a dry shed. I can only see this being a problem if a snake is shedding in a dry environment and eating a large meal. In the pic he is eating a pinky and I usually feed him pups or bigger. I chose to feed him a pinky because he was in shed and has NEVER turned down a meal.
I do however appreciate everybody's comments and concerns.:D

I love feeding pics where the prey looks like it could be trying to say something.
There should be a caption contest for pics like that.

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Okay...1st of all, all I wanted to do was show a pic of my BP eating, thought it was a cool & funny pic.
2nd of all, when my BP is in shed his humidity is at 70% - 80% so there is no chance of a dry shed. I can only see this being a problem if a snake is shedding in a dry environment and eating a large meal. In the pic he is eating a pinky and I usually feed him pups or bigger. I chose to feed him a pinky because he was in shed and has NEVER turned down a meal.
I do however appreciate everybody's comments and concerns.:D

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Sorry bud, just tried to pass along some advice like everyone else on this forum... didn't realize it would get such an overreaction. :tears:

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Sorry bud, just tried to pass along some advice like everyone else on this forum... didn't realize it would get such an overreaction. :tears:

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I dont think its an over reaction, were all just saying its highly improvable that that would happen. One thing is that the food prey should not be so big that the shed can get stuck on it, and if it is you should lower the size of the prey.

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I dont think its an over reaction, were all just saying its highly improvable that that would happen. One thing is that the food prey should not be so big that the shed can get stuck on it, and if it is you should lower the size of the prey.

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Well if a 30 year reptile veteran says something I listen, and thought others might also. Especially when that veteran is highly respected by EVERY respectable breeder out there.

I believe that shedding problem is complete bull. Hes in Cloudy eye stage, which means hes not going to shed for at least 3-4 days if not a week, so he has plenty of time to digest the meal. I don't understand why your trying to convince us all an extremely, extremely rare occurrence is something we all have to worry about. If you snake eats while in shed, feed it, mine usually don't but some will. The snake knows what to do so let it do its job.

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I believe that shedding problem is complete bull. Hes in Cloudy eye stage, which means hes not going to shed for at least 3-4 days if not a week, so he has plenty of time to digest the meal. I don't understand why your trying to convince us all an extremely, extremely rare occurrence is something we all have to worry about. If you snake eats while in shed, feed it, mine usually don't but some will. The snake knows what to do so let it do its job.

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Sorry the expert has spoken, I will keep advice to myself... hmm if everyone else does the same the forum will be of no use. Keep in mind everyone that likes quoting me like I made this up, I have posted the original quote from someone way more qualified than anyone that has disagreed with it. Also I never said it is a MUST NOT to do it, I said it is a good practice not to do it. People need to relax on here.