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  • 01-27-2010, 02:49 PM
    cardell75
    Home Defense
    BUTTE, MONTANA

    Shotgun preteen vs. Illegal alien Home Invaders:
    Butte, Montana November 5, 2007

    Two illegal aliens, Ralphel Resindez, 23, and Enrico Garza, 26, probably believed they would easily overpower home-alone 11 year old Patricia Harrington after her father had left their two-story home.

    It seems the two crooks never learned two things: they were in Montana and Patricia had been a clay shooting champion since she was nine.

    Patricia was in her upstairs room when the two men broke through the front door of the house. She quickly ran to her father's room and grabbed his 12 gauge Mossberg 500 shotgun.

    Resindez was the first to get up to the second floor only to be the first to catch a near point blank blast of buckshot from the 11-year-old's knee crouch aim. He suffered fatal wounds to his abdomen and genitals.

    When Garza ran to the foot of the stairs, he took a blast to the left shoulder and staggered out into the street where he bled to death before medical help could arrive.

    It was found out later that Resindez was armed with a stolen 45 caliber handgun he took from another home invasion robbery. That victim, 50-year-old David 0Burien, was not so lucky. He died from stab wounds to the chest.

    Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news.......an 11 year old girl, properly trained, defended her home , and herself......against two murderous, illegal immigrants.......and she wins, She is still alive.

    Now that's Gun Control !
  • 01-27-2010, 03:03 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Home Defense
    Good for her!
  • 01-27-2010, 03:08 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Home Defense
    I love it..at the shooting range I'm a member of there is a sticker that says "Gun Control means you hit where you aim"
  • 01-27-2010, 03:09 PM
    Jerhart
    Re: Home Defense
    Thata girl!
  • 01-27-2010, 03:11 PM
    dsirkle
    Re: Home Defense
    She was saved by defending herself with a gun? in a low population Western State? How could this be? This is not possible, is it? :rolleye2: This is an outrage! Why wasn't that gun unloaded and locked up in a safe?
  • 01-27-2010, 03:15 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Home Defense
  • 01-27-2010, 03:15 PM
    DUDEvonDudenstien
    Re: Home Defense
    that's exactly why i support the NRA and the Second amendment! we need criminal control not gun control. the news is a bunch of crap if you want real news watch BBC world news they actually talk about world news & real news not how the US housing market is rebounding as well as the economy which its not.sorry for the rant but like Heston said "out of my cold dead hands"
  • 01-27-2010, 03:18 PM
    2kdime
    Re: Home Defense
    Thanks for posting that, but I think the story has a good moral to it.

    People have the right to bear arms and protect themselves.





    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post

  • 01-27-2010, 03:21 PM
    DUDEvonDudenstien
    Re: Home Defense
    ^^^^agreed!!
  • 01-27-2010, 03:25 PM
    BallsUnlimited
    Re: Home Defense
    always been big on home defense. If someone chooses to come into my home and put my family in danger he will be lucky to leave with his life. He will have to kill both dogs first while i get the boom stick. and no i didnt miss spell it its not supposed to be broom. the boom stick is 12 gauge :D
  • 01-27-2010, 03:38 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cardell75 View Post
    Ever wonder why good stuff never makes NBC, CBS, PBS, MSNBC, CNN, or ABC news.......an 11 year old girl, properly trained, defended her home , and herself......against two murderous, illegal immigrants.......and she wins, She is still alive.

    Hehe. Way to put gun control, the immigration issue and the liberal media into one fake story. :P They forgot to mention that the illegal immigrants were a gay married couple that wanted to steal money to open up a government funded abortion clinic...
  • 01-27-2010, 03:40 PM
    Freakie_frog
    Re: Home Defense
    Proper home defense is one of those things that many people tend to think is a single solution..I took a class a few years ago talking about home defense. They taught about security lights, locks, security systems, even landscaping to prevent or deter break-ins. Then they taught tactical home defense which I like the best..things like remember you know your house they don't, small targets are harder to hit, muzzle flashes in a dark room will blind you and them so be sure you can hit what you want to in the first 3 rounds.
  • 01-27-2010, 03:50 PM
    scutechute
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by xdeus View Post
    Hehe. Way to put gun control, the immigration issue and the liberal media into one fake story. :P They forgot to mention that the illegal immigrants were a gay married couple that wanted to steal money to open up a government funded abortion clinic...

    Only could have been better if they didn't die...they were rushed to free health care services...right?

    C'mon man...It's a completely fake news story with a political agenda...but it has good morals in it. :rolleye2:
  • 01-27-2010, 04:02 PM
    Snakeman
    Re: Home Defense
    now that i think about it, my family and i dont have any kind of home defense. the only thing we have for "defense" is a bunch of my mom's kitchen knives.....and my dad's machete.....
  • 01-27-2010, 04:15 PM
    brainman1000
    Re: Home Defense
    My $0.02 on using guns as home defense:
    The only way it is useful is if you keep a loaded gun handy. That means that you keep one on you at all times, keep loaded guns stashed and accessible around your house, or you take them out of your safe every time you come home.

    The first is fine as long you have a concealed weapon permit.

    The second is not a really good idea because you won't always be home all of the time and if someone does break in while you are not home, those loaded accessible weapons can be found by the perp and taken for use at other crimes.

    The third means that every time you leave you properly store your weapons in a securely bolted safe and then take them back out when returning home.

    All of these also assume that you have enough time to realize you're in danger, make a decision about what to do, get your gun, make sure it is ready to fire, and then get yourself ready to fire, all before the perp gets in and to you.

    If it is a home invasion, they are anticipating that someone is home and already have their weapons ready. If it is a burglary, they are hoping that nobody is home and will most likely flee when they realize somebody is home. Either way, guns don't really make a good choice because in a home invasion, you probably won't be ready for it unless you are extremely paranoid, and in a burglary, if you shoot an unarmed man running out of your house after they discover you are home, you could possibly face legal action against you.

    The best method is to prevent or deter.

    Again, that is my OPINION, so I'm sure many of you will disagree, and that is perfectly fine.
  • 01-27-2010, 04:29 PM
    cardell75
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post

    Thanks for that link, I didnt even know that site existed. I still like the story though....
  • 01-27-2010, 04:36 PM
    Soterios
    Re: Home Defense
    Great fake story.

    How cute that an 11 year old with be traumatized for life because she killed two men and watched one of them die.


    I'm all for guns, but this story is ridiculous.
  • 01-27-2010, 05:13 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: Home Defense
    i have one small concern about this story ..... it seems the story is made up. i get that, but what if it was a real story? who would trust their 11 year old with full access to a shotgun? thats a lot to swallow!

    P.S. Reediculous is very Pro Gun ... just not where kids can get a hold of them!
  • 01-27-2010, 05:26 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Home Defense
    Good moral to the story. We had our door busted open on Halloween night, but I screamed and when my BF went to go check what was going on there was no one there. We looked into getting a taser, but never followed through with it.

    Being in a very high immigrant populated state, it makes me want to go through gun training.
  • 01-27-2010, 05:30 PM
    MarkS
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by cardell75 View Post
    Thanks for that link, I didnt even know that site existed. I still like the story though....

    Yeah, I love that site, I use it quite a bit and it's got a really good search engine so it's easy to find stuff. It's surprising how many of those 'pass this on to everyone you know' type E-mails are complete fabrications. It's kind of like professional wrestling. Fun to watch but not much truth or reality there.
  • 01-27-2010, 06:01 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Elise.m View Post
    Being in a very high immigrant populated state, it makes me want to go through gun training.

    Wow... really? I'll be sure to tell my kids to stay away from their mother. Who knows what she's capable of...

    The Myth of Immigrant Criminality
  • 01-27-2010, 06:13 PM
    Derrick13
    Re: Home Defense
    Anyone who broke into my home would be walking into a den of lions...well more like two dogs lol but nevertheless my parents room is at the back end of the house and has a nice little armory and as for my room, intruders would have to go through a locked door and that would give me enough time to grab my sword. Melee is better at close range anyway lol.
  • 01-27-2010, 08:03 PM
    DUDEvonDudenstien
    Re: Home Defense
    Wow I'm surprised by the responses from people being pro gun. I was expecting people to be very opinionated on why we don't need guns. i do fully agree with preventative measures like locked doors and such, i do believe guns are the last line of defense, should criminals be persistent enough.

    Quote:

    Being in a very high immigrant populated state, it makes me want to go through gun training.
    <-this is why we have the best Mexican food in the country! they are welcome to stay as long as they pay there way like the rest of us (taxes, Social Sec). Just remember what history has taught us as soon as the gov. takes your guns, they restrict your rights more & more, then they tell you what to believe case in point: Hitler
  • 01-27-2010, 08:06 PM
    Reediculous
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by MarkS View Post
    It's kind of like professional wrestling. Fun to watch but not much truth or reality there.

    HEY NOW! WWE IS REAL!!! :colbert:
  • 01-27-2010, 08:16 PM
    dr del
    Re: Home Defense
    I don't get this.

    The fact it's completely made up and never happened doesn't seem to matter to a lot of you?

    The moral behind it doesn't seem particularly edifying to me either - but that's almost certainly just cultural and nothing to get excited about.

    But, pretending it was real for a moment.

    I'm mainly puzzled by the small amount of people wondering what would have happened if the little girl had an argument with her parents - could she have taken the same path? :confused:

    I know a few 11 year olds - I wouldn't trust the judgement of most of them with a hot kettle. I have seen a few interviews with former child soldiers and psychologically I can't say they escaped undamaged either.

    I won't dwell on the xenophobia as the doctor told me to watch my blood pressure.


    dr del
  • 01-27-2010, 08:27 PM
    dr del
    Re: Home Defense
    **sigh**

    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DUDEvonDudenstien View Post
    Just remember what history has taught us as soon as the gov. takes your guns, they restrict your rights more & more, then they tell you what to believe case in point: Hitler

    To correct this once again - Hitler did not introduce gun control to disarm the general public.

    The previous government did attempt a registration policy to try and limit the chaos and disruptive power of the group that became the nazi government as well as the communist movement.

    Why are there so many false statements made about world history in these sorts of debates?

    Seriously people - take your "cold dead hand" and use it to open a damned book.


    dr del
  • 01-27-2010, 08:31 PM
    MarkieJ
    Re: Home Defense
    Please include a source whenever posting articles... :rolleyes:
  • 01-27-2010, 08:50 PM
    Elise.m
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DUDEvonDudenstien View Post
    <-this is why we have the best Mexican food in the country! they are welcome to stay as long as they pay there way like the rest of us (taxes, Social Sec). Just remember what history has taught us as soon as the gov. takes your guns, they restrict your rights more & more, then they tell you what to believe case in point: Hitler

    Yeah, we do have the best mexican food. That, I love. Most of the time it's those people who build their restaurant from the ground up that are the more respectable ones. I'm in no way saying all immigrants are criminals. I do not judge every immigrant that I see, because I wouldn't like it if I went to France and everyone judged me. (That, and you never know if they really are an immigrant) In my eyes, you have my respect when I meet you. It's what you do after that will effect how I look at you.

    I have grown up in California, always in the areas that has alot of field work. Rice fields when I was younger, and now wine country. I have a different outlook than alot of people on Immigrants, and I believe that's because I have grown up around it.
  • 01-27-2010, 08:58 PM
    xdeus
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by dr del View Post
    Seriously people - take your "cold dead hand" and use it to open a damned book.

    :sweeet:
  • 01-27-2010, 09:07 PM
    DUDEvonDudenstien
    Re: Home Defense
    Quote:

    take your "cold dead hand" and use it to open a damned book.
    i was meaning about the gov. controlling every aspect of your life when your rights are removed, like entering your home to see if your hiding "enemies of the state" and having "work camps" and blaming a race of people not gov. officials actions instead. like Hitler did.

    criminals don't buy guns an guns shops any way, to abolish them makes there way of life easier that all.
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