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  • 01-22-2010, 03:36 PM
    chrispouliot55
    uth question?
    how hot is one supposed to get? i have one that plugs in to the wall. thats it. and i touched it. its pretty dang warm. so i added some bedding to the hotside just to kinda put more stuff in the way of it. but the heater itself it really warm. but when i touch the substrate it isnt that hot. and the snake doesnt seem to mind. so whats yalls take on it?
  • 01-22-2010, 03:47 PM
    kc261
    Re: uth question?
    UTHs can and will get too hot for your snake, which can result in serious burns. UTHs should ALWAYS have some sort of t-stat or at least a dimmer to control the heat output.

    An extra thick layer of substrate won't do anything if/when your snake decides to burrow down into the substrate, which does happen.
  • 01-22-2010, 04:02 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    this one does have any stat or dimmer. it just gets to a certain temp and stays. its not super hot. the breeder i got it from uses em. and he said it works just fine. the snake never borrows though. she just goes in her little hide. on the warm side. so i guess its a good temp. i mean the substrate isnt hot. just warm. so i think it will be ok
  • 01-22-2010, 04:16 PM
    justinsane82
    Re: uth question?
    You need to put out a couple bucks and pick up a thermometer with a probe, place it on top of the glass where the UTH is and find out how hot it is. If it goes over 95 degrees, and it probably will be, you have to pick up some sort of dimmer to manually control the temp. Assuming the snake will be ok because the substrate isn't hot is ignorant thinking and when it was stated the snake could burrow, all that means is it can move the substrate around, sit directly on top of the exposed UTH and get burnt. That does and will happen. If you are convinced that since you're breeder said it's ok so then everything should be ok, why did you take the time to ask here?
  • 01-22-2010, 04:21 PM
    ballpythonluvr
    Re: uth question?
    Everyone is correct. You really need to have something to control that UTH or your snake could get severely burned. If you can't afford a thermostat, at least get a dimmer switch on there.
  • 01-22-2010, 04:36 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    i dont think its getting over 95. i think its at 90 to 94. but if yall could help send a link of a dimmer or somthing to control it.
  • 01-22-2010, 04:41 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    here is what i use. tell me what yall think about it

    http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/group/13144/product.web
  • 01-22-2010, 04:42 PM
    nickdolin
    Re: uth question?
    I currently use this one, it does pretty well.

    http://www.amazon.com/Lutron-TT-300H...4192935&sr=8-1
  • 01-22-2010, 04:43 PM
    nickdolin
    Re: uth question?
    And since that UTH is the 8W version (IIRC) it will easily be over 100F and more like 120F which is way too hot!
  • 01-22-2010, 04:45 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    ok. thanks for all the help. what would be the easiest way to cool that thing off. like cause i am currently broke. I o so many people money. like 1000 dollars. so what would be the cheapest thing to do?
  • 01-22-2010, 04:49 PM
    kelevra
    Re: uth question?
    I can vouch for Nick as well. While my substrate was reading 94 (still warm for a hot side) my tub was running 124.7. It's a good thing I run the setup for a week before adding any snake. I will be adding a thermostat as soon as I can. Until then, my new pastel will be in the same setup that works for my other two (a 20g aquarium with a light). Haven't had a bad shed out of any of my others. Wanted to move to tubs to save money, but you still have to control that heat.
  • 01-22-2010, 04:49 PM
    nickdolin
    Re: uth question?
    Well... if you could get about $10 bucks you could build a Rheostat, which I was successful in doing. I'll PM you the link to the instructions.
  • 01-22-2010, 05:01 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: uth question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrispouliot55 View Post
    ok. thanks for all the help. what would be the easiest way to cool that thing off. like cause i am currently broke. I o so many people money. like 1000 dollars. so what would be the cheapest thing to do?

    If you have $20 then you can monitor and control the temperature of your snakes tank.

    You can find the lamp dimmer, linked to earlier, at the home depot in the lighting section. You might have to ask an employee where to find it. It is about $10-11

    The accurite weather station is an indoor outdoor thermometer that has a probe which you can put right on the glass where your UTH is. It will also measure ambient temperature and humidity. It costs about $12.

    "Guessing" what your temps are is just that, guessing. If you don't know your temps, they are probably wrong. Take initiative before you come back here with a burned or cooked snake :)
  • 01-22-2010, 05:08 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    yeah. i know the temps and humidity of the cage itself. like the air in it i guess? lol. but i just didnt know about the uth. i will make a rehostat later. i just want to have belly heat for her. she just got a bigger rat to eat and i want her to digest it really good
  • 01-22-2010, 05:14 PM
    Kaorte
    Re: uth question?
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by chrispouliot55 View Post
    yeah. i know the temps and humidity of the cage itself. like the air in it i guess? lol. but i just didnt know about the uth. i will make a rehostat later. i just want to have belly heat for her. she just got a bigger rat to eat and i want her to digest it really good

    You don't need to wire a rheostat. It would be much easier to just buy a piggy back dimmer like the one that was linked earlier.

    If you aren't familiar with electrical wiring, then don't build your own.
  • 01-22-2010, 05:26 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    na. i am. my grandfather is an electrician. i know plenty about how to wire somthing that simple. lol. but thanks for all the help.
  • 01-22-2010, 05:47 PM
    Mr_BoaJangles
    Re: uth question?
    the dimmers I bought made all the difference in the world. The temp can still fluxuate around 5 degrees but it has been steady for the most part for the last couple of months I have had them in there. The temp with out them from my probe reading was 135 degrees... so to not use a dimmer will ensure a cooked snake at some point.
  • 01-22-2010, 05:50 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    wow. i got a reading of 110. witch is still way hot. so im making one. thanks for the help.
  • 01-23-2010, 06:29 AM
    jben
    Re: uth question?
    hate to be the one to say it but if you owe people so much money you should have paid them first and then buy the setup, then snake.
  • 01-24-2010, 11:47 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    well im 15. and its all for my dad. i play alot of guitar. so i got an amp 700 bucks. and a guitar. 1000. so i can like pay for it way over time
  • 01-24-2010, 11:48 PM
    chrispouliot55
    Re: uth question?
    and i have had the snake for a wile. like alot longer that i have had my new guitar stuff
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