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  • 01-20-2010, 03:39 PM
    takagari
    Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    I have a fairly large collection and have been building to breeding sizes.

    My het SK Axanthic pair I got when they were a bit older, and I wait her a few months back, 1490 I thought what the heck. never bothered cooling as I was just going to try and see (plus they are in the basement and in the winter the ambient drops a few anyway, figured this may be enough)

    Checked today and Boom she's all bumpy :)

    I am tempted to let her incubate the eggs herself, as I have yet to do it and figure she has more knowledge on the subject than i do :)

    is this a worthy thing to try? Will I regret it? or do most who let there snakes incubate have success?

    Shawn
  • 01-20-2010, 04:30 PM
    LadyOhh
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    You can let her incubate them herself, but be prepared to have a whole year of recovery (aka not being able to use her next season) due to the 2+ months of her not eating due to incubating.
  • 01-20-2010, 05:23 PM
    joepythons
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by takagari View Post
    I have a fairly large collection and have been building to breeding sizes.

    My het SK Axanthic pair I got when they were a bit older, and I wait her a few months back, 1490 I thought what the heck. never bothered cooling as I was just going to try and see (plus they are in the basement and in the winter the ambient drops a few anyway, figured this may be enough)

    Checked today and Boom she's all bumpy :)

    I am tempted to let her incubate the eggs herself, as I have yet to do it and figure she has more knowledge on the subject than i do :)

    is this a worthy thing to try? Will I regret it? or do most who let there snakes incubate have success?

    Shawn

    Shawn in my opinion it would be a waste of time.A friend of mine tried this with his het albino pair and the whole clutch died of slowly :(.Unless you can get the enclosure at the perfect temps and humidity i would incubate them instead.
  • 01-20-2010, 08:52 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    I have never let a mother incubate her eggs. It's not that I have anything against it but I guess I have more faith in the environment in my incubator than in my racks.
    I think I might try a maternal clutch or two this year though;) All these years and I have never tried it.
  • 01-20-2010, 09:18 PM
    SNIKTTIME
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    From what I hear about having your snake incubate, is you have to keep the heat and humidity up pretty high for the eggs as the snake will give almost no heat to the eggs like other snakes will. Also as far as the mother not feeding during incubations, I have heard that BP are one of the few breeds that actually "will" leave the eggs and drink and feed during this process.
  • 01-20-2010, 09:30 PM
    coldbloodaddict
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    If You're expecting eggs You need an incubator.

    Not all females will incubate their clutches...If I had expected this girl to incubate her clutch I would have lost them.

    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ino_012121.jpg
  • 01-20-2010, 09:54 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by coldbloodaddict View Post
    If You're expecting eggs You need an incubator.

    Not all females will incubate their clutches...If I had expected this girl to incubate her clutch I would have lost them.

    http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j2...ino_012121.jpg

    Good point Jon.....I too have had females abandon their eggs. Not often but I have seen it.....especially with younger or smaller females.
  • 01-20-2010, 11:58 PM
    takagari
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    Hmm

    okay maybe I will go the incubator way.

    how long after she is lumpy should I expect eggs? I wanna say 60 days but i'm not 100% sure?

    Shawn
  • 01-21-2010, 12:23 AM
    snakemansnakes
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    Got a pic of her being "lumpy"?
  • 01-21-2010, 12:55 AM
    takagari
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    sure I snapped three. mind you she did eat for me a week ago, and one of the lumps may be that. I believe shes 1670grams right now also.

    http://www.stonereptiles.com/public/...hots%20(1).JPG
    http://www.stonereptiles.com/public/...hots%20(2).JPG
    http://www.stonereptiles.com/public/...hots%20(3).JPG

    Shawn
  • 01-21-2010, 09:09 PM
    Quiet Tempest
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    Last year was my first time breeding balls and I let my female maternally incubate. I didn't have to do much more than I usually do for my snakes during that time besides providing her with a lay box, which is something I always do for my corns so I figured it would just be just as appreciated by my ball. The idea that you have to regulate the humidity and temperature in the cage is wrong. The female coiling tightly or loosely around her eggs regulates the humidity. As long as the humidity in her enclosure is adequate for her, she can do the rest for her clutch.

    I would say go for it because it was very rewarding in my experience. I've incubated corn eggs and jungle carpet eggs and while watching those eggs pip was great, it just pales in comparison to having little heads pipping out within their mother's coils.

    http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1486/cimg3705a.jpg
  • 01-22-2010, 06:42 PM
    Joe_Compel
    Re: Het Axanthic x Het Axanthic
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Quiet Tempest View Post
    Last year was my first time breeding balls and I let my female maternally incubate. I didn't have to do much more than I usually do for my snakes during that time besides providing her with a lay box, which is something I always do for my corns so I figured it would just be just as appreciated by my ball. The idea that you have to regulate the humidity and temperature in the cage is wrong. The female coiling tightly or loosely around her eggs regulates the humidity. As long as the humidity in her enclosure is adequate for her, she can do the rest for her clutch.

    I would say go for it because it was very rewarding in my experience. I've incubated corn eggs and jungle carpet eggs and while watching those eggs pip was great, it just pales in comparison to having little heads pipping out within their mother's coils.

    http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1486/cimg3705a.jpg


    Nice.....that pic has me thinking that I have to give one or two a try this season;)
    Good stuff.
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